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    US now sees home-grown terrorism as biggest threat

    US now sees home-grown terrorism as biggest threat
    Arun Kumar, Washington
    Sep 11

    Nine years after the Sep 11, 2001 terror attacks, the United States is looking at the terrorism issue differently, with experts saying that the biggest threat to the country comes not from the Afghanistan-Pakistan border regions, or from the Middle East, but from home-grown terrorists.


    The 42-page analysis by the non-partisan National Security Preparedness Group, warns of the growing threat of home grown terrorism and the role played by US citizens and residents within Al Qaeda and allied organizations.

    Headed by former Democratic Representative Lee Hamilton and former Repiblican New Jersey Governor Tom Kean, the panel describes an increasingly wide range of "US-based jihadist militants" who do not fit "any particular ethnic, economic, educational, or social profile."

    "A key shift in the past couple of years is the increasingly prominent role in planning and operations that US citizens and residents have played in the leadership of Al Qaeda and aligned groups," said the report by the two experts, who also headed the 9/11 commission.

    "In many ways, trying to catch home grown terrorists is more complicated - the suspect is no longer a poor kid from Pakistan who has come to the US to attack. Now he (or even she) could be an MBA from Connecticut or a college student from Minneapolis," the panel said

    The Times Square bomber, Faisal Shahzad, was a young American of Pakistani descent with an MBA, it noted.

    The plot to bomb New York City subways last year, which was described as the worst plot levelled against the US since Sept. 11, would have killed dozens had Najibullah Zazi succeeded in mixing the chemicals and getting them on the trains.

    Had the bombing of Northwest Flight 253 on Christmas Day succeeded, it might have killed hundreds. Those kinds of operations should be seen as the new normal, the report said.

    "This level of threat is likely to persist for years to come," it said noting, "Al-Qaida is believed to lack the capability to launch an attack sufficiently deadly in scope to reorient completely the country's foreign policy, as the 9/11 attacks did."

    The report makes the case that part of the reason the group's reach is diminished is because its core leadership is under siege.

    Drone attacks in the border region between Pakistan and Afghanistan have gutted its midlevel operatives and sent Osama bin Laden, and his No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahiri, underground.

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    Wow, there are some in the home of the snoozing free that have opted to wake up.

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    Bipartisan Policy Center Report Finds Homegrown Terrorism Presents Key Challenge for the United States

    Kean and Hamilton cite diversification of terrorist threat since 9/11

    Washington, D.C. – On the day before the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, the Bipartisan Policy Center’s (BPC) National Security Preparedness Group (NSPG) released a report, Assessing the Terrorist Threat, which details how the terrorist threat currently facing the United States has grown more complex and diverse since 2001. Under the leadership of former 9/11 Commission Chair and Vice Chair Tom Kean and Lee Hamilton, NSPG members Peter Bergen and Dr. Bruce Hoffman authored the report which is based on interviews with a wide range of senior U.S. counterterrorism officials at the federal and local levels.

    “The threat that the U.S. is facing today remains significant and dangerous, but has developed since the 9/11 Commission presented its report six long years ago,” said Congressman Hamilton. “The changing nature of the terrorist threat makes it necessary for America to constantly reexamine its counterterrorism assumptions and approaches. The level of threat posed by al-Qaeda and its allies is not fading into the past.”
    Key findings of the report identify an increase in homegrown terrorists in the United States underscoring how much the threat has changed since September 11, 2001. Al-Qaeda leadership is becoming increasingly ‘Americanized’ and U.S.-based jihadist militants do not fit any particular “ethnic, economic, educational, or social profile,” according to the assessment.

    “We are seeing more Americans turning on their country, going abroad and making common cause with terrorist groups,” said Dr. Bruce Hoffman, one of the report authors. “The array of perpetrators and the nature of their plots against America are remarkable and there is no single government agency responsible for deterring radicalization and terrorist recruitment. The terrorists may have found our Achilles heel – we have no way of dealing with this growing problem.”

    “Al-Qaeda has made a strategic shift away from spectacular attacks, like 9/11, to less sophisticated, more frequent attacks,” said Dr. Stephen Flynn, a member of the NSPG, at today’s press conference. “The smaller-scale attacks are almost impossible for the national security and intelligence communities to detect and intercept.” As the attempted Christmas Day bombing in Detroit and foiled plot in New York’s Times Square illustrate, “the national security community, local law enforcement and the American public need to adapt to the increasingly domestic nature of the threat.”

    “We are here to remember, but also look forward and reassess, reexamine and look at what the threat is today,” said Governor Kean. “The American people have lost their focus on the threat and while we’re not trying to make people panic, this report reminds us that we cannot be complacent,” said Congressman Hamilton.

    The NSPG is composed of a distinguished bipartisan group of experts including former U.S. Secretary of Energy and U.S. Senator E. Spencer Abraham, Peter Bergen, Dr. Stephen Flynn, Dr. John Gannon, Dr. Bruce Hoffman, former Congressman Dave McCurdy, former Attorney General Edwin Meese III, former U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security and Governor of Pennsylvania Tom Ridge, Frances Townsend, former U.S. Attorney General Richard L. Thornburgh, former Congressman Jim Turner, and former Secretary of Agriculture and BPC Senior Fellow Dan Glickman. Michael Allen, formerly of the National Security Council and the Homeland Security Council, is the Executive Director.

    Download a full copy of the report here.

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    the rats are inside the gates now, shouldnt have let the fuckers in .
    now the tail is wagging the dog ,bend down and wave your asses in the air

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    It will get worse ,as has happened in Britain ,the first wave of immigrants from say pakistan , understand how lucky they are to escape the dump thier ancestors made . its the 2nd and 3rd geeration , of paki ,even more inbred , big chip on shoulder ,that will cause more and more problems .
    best thing America can do is just take European immigrants

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    There will always be terrorists, any entity faced with a militarily superior adversary will find ways to disrupt and weaken their opponent. That's what terrorism is and it's as old as human conflict.
    The real reason behind the 'War" on terrorism is suppression of civil rights and privacy rights, which have been eroding rapidly in the last 9 years. This conclusion is a convenient excuse to turn the evil hand of Government inward towards the American people.

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    does this include the Tea Party nutters ? probably,

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    They've created the conditions for a fifth column and only now beginning to sense like, er, did we really do that!

    Real smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    does this include the Tea Party nutters ? probably,
    Doesn't matter who....foreign or domestic. America exist upon fear. Make-believe fear, as a rule. The never ending and perpetual search {or need} for enemies. Have you ever wondered why the U.S. needs to have such concurring or cycled enemies and boogeymen? Think about it. Yet, it's perfectly acceptable and distantly understood for them to require some 200+ military reservations worldwide on foreign soil....less the domestic bases. One could wonder how such scenarios might develop when the U.S. has had it's hand in nearly every sorted conflict, war, coup, dispute, etc. by surface or covert activities since distant memory. Couldn't imagine how America could {created} have any enemies.... These "foreign" examples don't even compare to the homegrown discontent and insurgent agitation that has existed in the U.S. since it's birth.

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    you lived in the states, right ? I think domestic terrorists are a credible threat, unlike Islamic terrorists

    have you seen all the nutters in that country ? they make Islamic nutters pale in comparison

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue
    best thing America can do is just take European immigrants
    No thanks, we have enough white trash as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    have you seen all the nutters in that country ? they make Islamic nutters pale in comparison
    You maybe right, but it's a really big country and not all the crazies make it on to the national news so unless they are in your town the average American is unaware just how many nutters there are here.

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    I wouldn't imagine that loony home grown pastors were all that good for business either...

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    the average Patriotic American is already a nutter

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    Only a fucking idiot would believe this garbage, these opinions are put out there by study groups who need to keep the myth of terrorism alive to keep their funding. The same goes for the FBI, Home Land Security, and other groups. They hype up the terrorist threat to keep or increase their funding. The FBI did it for years with the "mafia," they would lie about how powerful the mafia still was, but everytime they made a move on them they would arrest some octogenarian on bookmaking charges. They also did when McVeigh took out half a building in Oaklahom, they hyped up the threat of so called right wingers to crush the "militia." The good thing is these governments are going broke, and they wont be able to micro manage peoples lives for much longer, cause all of these government clowns are going to done away with as funding continues to shrink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    does this include the Tea Party nutters ? probably,
    Doesn't matter who....foreign or domestic. America exist upon fear. Make-believe fear, as a rule. The never ending and perpetual search {or need} for enemies. Have you ever wondered why the U.S. needs to have such concurring or cycled enemies and boogeymen? Think about it. Yet, it's perfectly acceptable and distantly understood for them to require some 200+ military reservations worldwide on foreign soil....less the domestic bases. One could wonder how such scenarios might develop when the U.S. has had it's hand in nearly every sorted conflict, war, coup, dispute, etc. by surface or covert activities since distant memory. Couldn't imagine how America could {created} have any enemies.... These "foreign" examples don't even compare to the homegrown discontent and insurgent agitation that has existed in the U.S. since it's birth.
    One of their biggest headaches was in '89, when Gorbachev effectively ended the Cold War. We've been desperately looking for new things to be scared of since this time. Allied to potential enemies, we now have "climate change" and "safety" to poo in our pants about. Whhoo--ooooo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chingching
    the rats are inside the gates now, shouldnt have let the fuckers in .
    As rats are prone to do they reluctantly came to the US on ships a couple hundred years ago. Now their offspring represent about 25% of the US rat population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    does this include the Tea Party nutters ? probably,
    Doesn't matter who....foreign or domestic. America exist upon fear. Make-believe fear, as a rule. The never ending and perpetual search {or need} for enemies. Have you ever wondered why the U.S. needs to have such concurring or cycled enemies and boogeymen? Think about it. Yet, it's perfectly acceptable and distantly understood for them to require some 200+ military reservations worldwide on foreign soil....less the domestic bases. One could wonder how such scenarios might develop when the U.S. has had it's hand in nearly every sorted conflict, war, coup, dispute, etc. by surface or covert activities since distant memory. Couldn't imagine how America could {created} have any enemies.... These "foreign" examples don't even compare to the homegrown discontent and insurgent agitation that has existed in the U.S. since it's birth.
    What twaddle. The USA doesn't force its foreign bases on Korea or Japan does it? 40,000 US troops are stationed in Korea as a deterrent to keep a madman from launching a war. If he does, the US personnel are as good as dead. The US public doesn't need the expense of supporting an ungrateful Korea. It's interesting that the Japanese are making nice to the USA now that the Chinese are scaring them. The US has about 40,000 there. Then there are approx. 60,000 scattered around European nations as part of Nato obligations. With your logic, then Germany and the UK are military occupiers of Canada because of their presence at the NAto air training facilities. Is Canada occupying the USA because of its integral part of the NORAD command structure? It was afterall a Canadian officer that took charge of protecting US airspace on 9/11. Bet you didn't know that did you? A Canadian was in charge of Norad on that day. I don't think the 200 US personnel in Australia are much of a threat to Australian sovereignty anymore than the 50 Australian personnel stationed in Canada are. You do realize which navy is doing most of the antipiracy work in the Gulf of Aden right? The naval base in Bahrain lets the US do that. As well, the US presence keeps Iran from doing to the UAE, Qatar and Bahrain what Iraq did to Kuwait.

    It's really easy to bash the USA, but it is the only country aside from Canada that has been so accomodating to recent immigrants. If the USA is such a bad place why do so many millions of people keep trying to get in? I don't see anyone fighting to get into Pakistan, do you? If all these arabs hate the USA why the f**k are they going there? I'd understand if the USA pulled up its drawbridges and became isolationist. The last time it did that Herr Hitler had a field day in Europe and the Japanese went around destroying Asia. It's interesting to note that many of the Americans Europeans hate the most, emigrated from Europe. Take the Bush family for example. If England had been nicer, the Prescott family would have stayed. If Kenya was paradise, Mr. Obama's father would have stayed there. If former AG Gonzalez family had not been made into Cuban refugees, we probably wouldn't have seen such a doofus as a US AG. Get the point? If you have a problem with the USA, look in the mirror, since it's your creation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keda View Post
    Wow, there are some in the home of the snoozing free that have opted to wake up.
    Pity some of the residents of "the best country in the world" can't wake up as well ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zygote1 View Post
    If you have a problem with the USA, look in the mirror, since it's your creation.

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    True, zygote. How many Americans emigrate to the UK, France, etc? I know American friends who took out dual citizenship in the UK a few years back solely for tax reasons.
    Canada promotes immigration to build its slowing population, hoping the new immigrants will go to less-populated areas. What a joke. Many do make lots of babies, but they stick to big cities where their old-country folks are. The non-whites who venture into the midwest and smaller towns are mostly Chinese.

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