Thread: Afgan Detainees Escape

Afghan detainees escape Darwin detention centre

Afghan detainees escape Darwin detention centre

Lindsay Murdoch

September 1, 2010 - 9:34AM

Almost 100 Afghan detainees escaped from the Darwin immigration detention centre early this morning.
Police surrounded 92 detainees on the side of the Stuart Highway on the outskirts of Darwin.
Some of the men were carrying messages written on sheets declaring "we want protection" and "show us mercy".

The men have all applied for refugee status. One man told reporters most of them have had their claims rejected and immigration officials have told them they will have to return to Afghanistan.
A man yelled to reporters that if they have to return to Afghanistan they will be killed.
He said: "If Afghanistan is safe why are there Australian soldiers there? Why are there American soldiers there?"
The detainees broke out through two high-wire fences that surround the centre in the grounds of the Coonawarra Naval Base about 7am.
A police officer said it is not believed any detainees escaped into the Darwin community.
"They are sitting down peacefully to make their views known," the officer said.
An Immigration Department spokesman said "all the detainees are accounted for".
Sandy Logan of the Department of Immigration told Sky News the detainees were being "very co-operative" and his department's only concern was about the impact on traffic.
He said the matter was "under control" and NT police were returning the detainees back to the detention centre.
The breakout raises concerns about security at the centre, which currently holds almost 500 detainees.
Indonesian detainees protest
Teams of Northern Territory, Federal Police and security guards have failed to restore calm among 151 Indonesian detainees in the centre since Sunday, when a dozen men brandishing poles and yelling abuse climbed on to the roof of demountables at the centre.
The men also set fire to rubbish and mattresses, sending a plume of back smoke across the outskirts of Darwin.
The Indonesian detainees are protesting their legal treatment, which includes delays of up to nine months in having their cases come to court.
Immigration officials have attempted to play down the protests and have released only scant details about them.
At least one guard suffered minor injuries and government property has been damaged.
Lindsay Murdoch is Fairfax Media's Darwin Correspondent.
- with Glenda Kwek

Fuck me, if they're just going to turn up in boats what do they expect?

an earlier story from 3 days ago
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Detainees rioting at Darwin immigration centre
Lindsay Murdoch
August 29, 2010



Detainees at Darwin's immigration detention centre have been rioting this morning, lighting fires, brandishing poles and jumping on the roofs of buildings.

The violence erupted about 4am local time when two Indonesian men facing people-smuggling charges climbed a tree at the centre and refused to come down, Immigration Department officials said.

They were joined by other Indonesian men and the situation escalated about 8am, when the rioters set fire to rubbish and mattresses they had piled up in the grounds of the centre.

At one point, more than a dozen men were standing on the roof of one building, yelling. Some of them brandished two-metre-long poles, which they used to stop security guards from climbing up.

The men also jumped between the roofs of demountable buildings at the centre, and one man threw a chair from the roof.

Some of the men took off their shirts and wrapped them around their heads.

The Indonesians were protesting that their cases were taking too long to be heard in court. Under Australian law, all the crewmen on asylum seeker boats face people-smuggling charges, which carry a minimum of five years' jail.

The riot continued for more than seven hours. Screaming and banging could be heard from behind the high-wire fence of the centre, hundreds of metres away.

But an official said the incident had ended mid-morning. No buildings or structures were set alight.

For several hours, police surrounded the centre, which is in the grounds of the Coonawarra Naval Base. A helicopter also hovered over the centre, while fire crews were called to extinguish the blaze which sent a huge plume of black smoke across the outskirts of Darwin.

There are 151 Indonesian detainees at the centre, which is holding a total of 487 people. In the compound where the violence erupted there are 97 Indonesian detainees.

NT Police have ordered media to leave the area and are refusing to comment.

Detainees rioting at Darwin immigration centre

Send them home.
They are invaders who target Australia as a soft-touch country.

Their behaviour will certainly endear them to the Australian taxpayer and potential next-door-neighbours if they were to be allowed residency and a state house in the suburbs.

Sitting on the side of the road? One of those NT big trucks could cure that.

Well I reckon conditions in an Australian detention centre would be luxury compared to what it would be like for people who just turned up in indo.
The next time a boatlaod turns up, especially from indonesia, just push them back out to sea again.

What about their human rights? They're just trying to escape oppression in indonesia. They should be allowed the human rights.

^ fine we won't trample on their rights if they stay away.

Refugees should be allowed.

Never mind Christmas Island or Nauru, Australia has loads of islands. Stick them on one, give them accommodation, food, clothing and a stack of Korans, then leave them to it.

This might go some way towards satisfying the yuman rites brigade.

Not sure if it's still the case, but back in the late 70's when i was a junior naval officer, the Indonesian fishing crew members were quite happy to be detained (although not the Skipper, who owned the boat and the catch). Their pay was actually more in Australian detention than on the boat, and their food was a damn sight better too.

I guess the moneys in people smuggling now though.

two distict groups, Afghanis wanting aslyum, Indonesians - they aren't refugees 169 of them charged with people smuggling. If guilty a minimum five-year jail sentence

An official confirmed the Indonesians were protesting about their legal treatment. People convicted over a boat carrying five or more people face a maximum 20 years' jail, a fine of $220,000 or both, penalties as harsh as for murder. The minimum sentence for first-time offenders is five years' jail with a three-year non-parole period.

Of 171 Indonesians facing people-smuggling charges on the Australian mainland, 169 are in detention in Darwin.

Full article: Boat 'scapegoats' riot over heavy jail terms

Australia's 'appeal' for II's is obvious- just about every other western country is struggling to stay afloat, and not many jobs to go around.

They should get a national ID card introduced methinks- I've never seen what the big fuss is over this. No ID card, no legal job, and absolutely no social security. Limited access to banking facilities, and absolutely none to credit.

The asylum seekers pushed through two electric fences to break out of the facility.
(ABc: Brooke Bannister)

http://www.xxx.xxx.xx/news/stories/2010/09/01/2999755.htm


Images from the scene of the breakout at Darwin Detention Centre

Darwin Detention break out | Northern Territory News | Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia | ntnews.com.au



The escaped Afghan detainees stage a protest on the side of the Stuart Highway.
Photo: Glenn Campbell

Afghan detainees escape Darwin detention centre

They won't get killed if they're sent back. Who's supposed to do that?

No mercy, repatriate them.

He said: "If Afghanistan is safe why are there Australian soldiers there? ..."

Sadly, there was a memorial service today, 1 September 2010, for three Australian soldiers who died in Afghanistan on August 20. Twenty-one Australian soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan.
Memorial service for fallen soldiers

Originally Posted by sabang

They should get a national ID card introduced methinks

tried and failed thankfully

Should charge them with damaging public property (the detention centre) or other such charge, then reject their application on ground of having criminal charges pending. That should prevent further problems.

Originally Posted by mud

What about their human rights? They're just trying to escape oppression in Indonesia. They should be allowed the human rights.

For every body's information that are not living in Australia and dont know the true story.

Not one of these people are genuine refugees, every person on the boat must pay big money for a spot on the boat. This is fact.

The genuine refugee will never make it to Australia as they cant afford a spot.

The people smugglers are making a fortune out of this racket hence most Australians have little sympathy for the boat people.

If any of the doo gooders recon we are being too hard on these people you are very welcome to come get them and take them back to your foking country.

Thank you very much.

Fully agree with you there Terry.
If only the doo gooders would relise that they are full of it and then piss off.

Thats normally the case some fuker is making money out of it, send the bastards back

Originally Posted by genghis61

two distict groups, Afghanis wanting aslyum, Indonesians - they aren't refugees 169 of them charged with people smuggling. If guilty a minimum five-year jail sentence

An official confirmed the Indonesians were protesting about their legal treatment. People convicted over a boat carrying five or more people face a maximum 20 years' jail, a fine of $220,000 or both, penalties as harsh as for murder. The minimum sentence for first-time offenders is five years' jail with a three-year non-parole period.

Of 171 Indonesians facing people-smuggling charges on the Australian mainland, 169 are in detention in Darwin.

Full article: Boat 'scapegoats' riot over heavy jail terms

I may be missing something, but can't see jail being much of a deterrent to people for whom free food, health, accommodation, education, recreation, and applied legal and yuman rites is a luxury.

And that's the hard bit. I believe that as they near the end of their sentence there are many options open to them including legal aid to fight deportation, seek asylum (someone back home's gonna be upset at losing a boat), or otherwise use the system against itself.

Originally Posted by sabang

Australia's 'appeal' for II's is obvious- just about every other western country is struggling to stay afloat, and not many jobs to go around.

They should get a national ID card introduced methinks- I've never seen what the big fuss is over this. No ID card, no legal job, and absolutely no social security. Limited access to banking facilities, and absolutely none to credit.

If it's anything like the UK's NIS system forget it, that's so open to abuse it's a joke; verifiable NI numbers were on offer at £300 a pop in Chiswick as far back as 15 year ago, so one expects they were also trading elsewhere and in other periods. Turning illegals legitimate with a number is wide open to abuse, especially from within the system, for immigration, welfare, benefits, and as you mentioned employment and banking abuse and fraud.

Not sure how noisy the pc evangelists are in Oz, but any modern day national ID system has to be based on biometrics. At very least that reduces/eliminates various types of opportunist/long term/multinic, immigration/welfare/banking fraud and abuse. Unfortunately this also tends to provoke the righteous career vocalists.

Originally Posted by terry57

If any of the doo gooders recon we are being too hard on these people you are very welcome to come get them and take them back to your foking country.

Now there's a genuine offer if ever I saw one, and fair enough too.

Originally Posted by genghis61

Send them home.
They are invaders who target Australia as a soft-touch country.

Their behaviour will certainly endear them to the Australian taxpayer and potential next-door-neighbours if they were to be allowed residency and a state house in the suburbs.

Sitting on the side of the road? One of those NT big trucks could cure that.

That's what people call the "domino effect"

Their country was invaded by .... , now they have to move somewhere else ...

Australia was part of the coalition, so actually it's fair enough, don't you think ?

Originally Posted by Perota

Their country was invaded by .... , now they have to move somewhere else ...

Logical connection?