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    Somali woman jailed for attempted plane hijack in NZ

    can't deport her . . . she'll be a real asset for the country in the years to come.


    Woman jailed for hijack attempt
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    The knife-weilding Somali refugeee who attempted to hijack a flight from Blenheim to Christchurch will serve at least six years in prison.


    Justice Christine French sentenced Asha Ali Abdille, 36, to nine years imprisonment with a non-parole period of six years for trying to hijack an aircraft more than two years ago.

    Justice French said the starting point for sentencing for the crime was 15 years.

    Abdille had a number of previous convictions and was on bail for another offence at the time, which added 12 months.

    Abdille's guilty plea and background of mental health issues were taken into consideration, bringing it down to nine years

    On February 8, 2008, Abdille tried to hijack an Air New Zealand-Eagle Air 19-seater Jetstream 32 aircraft.

    She brought three knives on board and was overpowered by the crew after the aircraft landed in Christchurch.

    Abdille's counsel Elizabeth Bulger read a statement from her client in court, where she spoke of fleeing war-torn Somalia and moving to New Zealand.

    When hijacked the plane she was attempting to flee New Zealand to get to Australia.

    A depositions hearing in December 2008 was told Abdille wanted to either hijack the plane to Australia or crash and kill everyone on board.

    She approached the pilots about 10 minutes after takeoff and claimed she had two bombs.

    She came close to causing the aircraft to crash after she interfered with controls.

    When the plane landed at Christchurch Airport, Abdille allowed the passengers to get off, and while she was distracted the captain shoved her, wedging her in the aisle, the captain told the court in 2008.

    He tried to get the knife from her, but was cut on the hand. The first officer, who landed the plane, kicked the knife from her hand before police boarded.

    The captain needed stitches in his right hand and surgery to reattach muscles, tendons and nerves in his left hand. He also had a cut on his back. The first officer had a cut foot.

    The captain told the depositions hearing that the hijack started with Abdille thrusting a knife at him. He tried to grab her wrist but was cut.

    The seven passengers stayed in their seats. "They were scared and several passengers were crying, " the pilot said. "She said at one stage we were all going to die. She didn't say how."

    A female passenger described Abdille as upset and agitated.

    "At times she was very angry, at other times she appeared frightened, other times crying and wiping her tears away."

    Abdille lived in Blenheim for five years and worked in vineyards.

    She has convictions for threatening to pour petrol on a Red Cross member in Wellington and throwing a bucket of faeces over a Hastings constable.

    Woman jailed for hijack attempt | Stuff.co.nz

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    Surely she should be stoned to death.I think its time we started to save money in other ways during the recession.And bring back the death penalty is a good way of saving money.

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    I hope the spell in jail does her diet the world of good. I thought Somali's were all skinny, famine hit people ?

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    She sure doesn't look like a Somali refugee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genghis61
    she was attempting to flee New Zealand to get to Australia.
    Quote Originally Posted by genghis61
    background of mental health issues

    Now i understand

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    How did she get 3 knives on board a domestic flight anyway ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson View Post
    How did she get 3 knives on board a domestic flight anyway ?
    I imagine blenheim has pretty relaxed security procedures.

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    Hijacking and piracy are Somali national pastimes.

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    I don't think there is any security checks for New Zealand domestic flights on small airlines.

    Now the Red Cross member and police constable can rest easy (and I need to ask - how long to fill a bucket with faeces? don't answer, please):

    She has convictions for threatening to pour petrol on a Red Cross member in Wellington and throwing a bucket of faeces over a Hastings constable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klong toey View Post
    Surely she should be stoned to death.I think its time we started to save money in other ways during the recession.And bring back the death penalty is a good way of saving money.
    I'm sure they'll take good care of her needs in prison, but we don't stone people; that's a barbaric punishment reserved for, erm, barbarians.

    She was 'fleeing' NZ, probably because of her outstanding charges, so perhaps she thought it better to simply start afresh in a new infidel country; "fleeing New Zealand;" that's a new one on me.

    Anyway, if she was so desperate to get to Australia she could have bought a ticket like normal people.


    Terminate her benefits, put her 16 kids on a plane back home, seize all of her assets to pay towards costs, and don't forget the arrow on the floor of her cell pointing to Mecca. /sarc off before the bleeding hearts kick off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genghis61 View Post

    When hijacked the plane she was attempting to flee New Zealand to get to Australia.
    Mental health issues ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson View Post
    How did she get 3 knives on board a domestic flight anyway ?
    They only do security checks at the international airports. It's like flying pre 9/11.

    Absolute bliss.

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    more info:
    Hijack-accused sent to trial - crime - national | Stuff.co.nz
    When the armed offenders squad members escorted Abdille away from the plane they handcuffed her and made her kneel down. They found a knife in her shoe and Mr Barton ( Constable Nigel Barton) did a pat-down search of her.

    In the car on the way out of the airport Abdille told Mr Barton that she went easy on the pilot. She said: "He wouldn't listen to me. I should have killed the pilot earlier, I should have stabbed him. I am pregnant three months.

    "The pilot kicked me six or seven times. I let him survive because of the other passengers."

    Transcipt from NZ Parliament, 13 February 2008
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    Hon. Clayton Cosgrove, Minister of Immigration
    "the Immigration Service’s 2004 investigation into Asha Ali Abdille found that Ms Abdille had acquired criminal convictions after she was selected to come to New Zealand in 1994, but that those convictions did not affect her residency or refugee status. The report further noted that she had sought to sponsor 14 family members to come to New Zealand, and that their applications were still under consideration at the time of the report. For the member’s information, 13 of those applications were subsequently declined. One sister was granted residency in 2005."

    Ron Mark, opposition party MP
    Would the Immigration Service ignore, in normal circumstances, an immigrant’s amassing of a huge dossier of convictions—including at the time of the 2004 review those of threatening to kill and common assault, two counts of assaulting a police officer, and a charge of conspiracy to murder after allegedly hiring someone to kill another person in a case that did not go to trial because a police witness refused to testify—when determining his or her ongoing right to live in New Zealand?

    Hon. Clayton Cosgrove, Minister of Immigration
    I am advised that Ms Abdille was selected to enter New Zealand as a legitimate quota refugee in 1994, as I said. I am advised that Ms Abdille had no criminal convictions when she arrived in New Zealand.

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    Thanks for the transcript, genghis, says much in a couple of paras about the NZ immigration psyche but I guess that's not surprising since they're more liberal and naive than even the Scandinavians, and look what's happening up there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by klong toey View Post
    Surely she should be stoned to death.I think its time we started to save money in other ways during the recession.And bring back the death penalty is a good way of saving money.
    I'm sure they'll take good care of her needs in prison, but we don't stone people; that's a barbaric punishment reserved for, erm, barbarians.

    She was 'fleeing' NZ, probably because of her outstanding charges, so perhaps she thought it better to simply start afresh in a new infidel country; "fleeing New Zealand;" that's a new one on me.

    Anyway, if she was so desperate to get to Australia she could have bought a ticket like normal people.


    Terminate her benefits, put her 16 kids on a plane back home, seize all of her assets to pay towards costs, and don't forget the arrow on the floor of her cell pointing to Mecca. /sarc off before the bleeding hearts kick off.
    Trouble is when released from prison she will probably end up in the land of benefits.
    A nice 2 million pound mansion in Mayfair and £600 a week dole money.
    Sorry stone her cheap and efficient.

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    Probably cheaper to tie her up at home and keep her on benefits, than throw more good money after bad by keeping her in high security with counselling for her mental imbalance.

    I wonder what the kiwi do-gooders are going to do about her trillion relatives.

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    nz lucky she only tried to hijack a plane , in britian the Somalians have taken over whole sections of towns and cities .
    where did she hide the knives ? in the rolls of fat .

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    ^ try Wellington's Newtown suburb.
    Ethiopian and Somali gangs, they 'settled' them there in council flats. Predictable results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genghis61 View Post
    ^ try Wellington's Newtown suburb.
    Ethiopian and Somali gangs, they 'settled' them there in council flats. Predictable results.
    Predictable results? - that's racist if you're referring to the Ethiopians and Somalis, and bigoted Islamophobic if to their faith/culture.

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    ^ I don't pretend to know the answers. Unsure re racist. imho they hate each other and certainly don't want to live in the same building.
    Putting them in the same block of flats was not a good idea, maybe someone thought "oh they're all from Africa they'll get along". They don't. Wellington's shitty cold climate was another bonus - welcome to your new home. The flats were a failed 1960s attempt at an 'estate' for inner city residential housing, not as bad as what I've seen of UK ones but getting there slowly. No one should live like that.

    For 2 yrs I was a voluntary sponsor/mentor to new migrants, 1-1 assisting with vocational options, job experience and ideally fulltime paid employment. People from African countries were consistently least likely to come to classes, turn up at appointments, or attend job training - they had housing, welfare benefits, social workers. On the positive side, my greatest personal 'successes' involved a muslim Bangladeshi woman and a man from Sri Lanka, both of whom took every opportunity given them and after many a knock-back (and there were plenty) gained fulltime, permanent employment.
    When Asha Ali Abdille is eventually released . . . who knows.

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    send her back..to where she come from, with all the rest who fail to respect the opportunities that are given when granted refo status

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    Quote Originally Posted by genghis61 View Post
    ^ I don't pretend to know the answers. Unsure re racist. imho they hate each other and certainly don't want to live in the same building.
    Putting them in the same block of flats was not a good idea, maybe someone thought "oh they're all from Africa they'll get along". They don't. Wellington's shitty cold climate was another bonus - welcome to your new home. The flats were a failed 1960s attempt at an 'estate' for inner city residential housing, not as bad as what I've seen of UK ones but getting there slowly. No one should live like that.

    For 2 yrs I was a voluntary sponsor/mentor to new migrants, 1-1 assisting with vocational options, job experience and ideally fulltime paid employment. People from African countries were consistently least likely to come to classes, turn up at appointments, or attend job training - they had housing, welfare benefits, social workers. On the positive side, my greatest personal 'successes' involved a muslim Bangladeshi woman and a man from Sri Lanka, both of whom took every opportunity given them and after many a knock-back (and there were plenty) gained fulltime, permanent employment.
    When Asha Ali Abdille is eventually released . . . who knows.
    The Ogaden War

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    ^ Ogaden
    cheers - one I wasn't aware of, did a little reading.

    NZ a 'soft touch' option, another in today's news. Once again free legal aid and social workers to the rescue...for nine years (during which the state will have been supporting them)

    A Sri Lankan citizen who was a crewman on a gun-running boat for the Tamil Tigers has been given the right by the Supreme Court to apply for refugee status in New Zealand. He came to New Zealand with his wife and children on visitors' permits in 2001, and applied for refugee status.
    Sri Lankan who crewed Tamil Tiger boat free to seek refugee status - World - NZ Herald News

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    Quote Originally Posted by genghis61
    she was attempting to flee New Zealand to get to Australia
    These asylum seekers are getting pickier by the day - New Zealand may be chock-full of sheep shagging inbreds but at least she is not back in Somalia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genghis61
    When the plane landed at Christchurch Airport, Abdille allowed the passengers to get off,
    Quote Originally Posted by genghis61
    The seven passengers stayed in their seats. "They were scared and several passengers were crying, " the pilot said. She said at one stage we were all going to die. She didn't say how."
    The passengers must have got back on again, I wonder why? And die from some f*cking highly contagious disease probably.

    Yet another fine piece of accurately written jounalism, give that man a job at the BANGKOK POST!

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