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    WMD - UK Doctor's death 'textbook suicide'

    22 August 2010 Last updated at 03:49 GMT
    Pathologist says David Kelly's death 'textbook suicide'





    Dr Kelly was the source of a BBC report casting doubt on government claims about Iraq's weapons
    The death of Iraq weapons expert David Kelly was a "textbook case" of suicide according to the pathologist who performed the post-mortem examination.
    A group of doctors has questioned the suicide verdict by the Hutton Inquiry in 2004 and called for a full inquest.
    But Nicholas Hunt said the scientist's death, after he was exposed as the source for a BBC story, was a "classic case of self-inflicted injury".
    He told the Sunday Times he would, however, welcome a full inquest.
    Dr Kelly's body was found in woods close to his Oxfordshire home in 2003, shortly after it was revealed that he provided the information for a story casting doubt on the government's claim that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction capable of being fired within 45 minutes.
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    Instead of a coroner's inquest, then Prime Minister Tony Blair asked Lord Hutton to conduct an investigation, which found Dr Kelly died from blood loss after slashing his wrist with a blunt gardening knife.
    'Nothing to hide'
    The details of the post-mortem examination are subject to a 70-year gagging order, and it is understood this is the first time Mr Hunt, who gave evidence at the Hutton Inquiry, has spoken out in defence of his findings.
    Mr Hunt told the Sunday Times that during the eight-hour examination he found no signs of murder.
    "I felt very, very sorry for David Kelly and the way he had been treated by the government... I had every reason to look for something untoward and would dearly love to have found something," the Home Office pathologist said.
    "It was an absolute classic case of self-inflicted injury. You could illustrate a textbook with it.
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    There were big, thick clots of blood inside the sleeve, which came down over the wrist”
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    "If it were anyone else and you were to suggest there's something foul about it, you would be referred for additional training. I would welcome an inquest, I've nothing to hide."
    There have been a number of calls for the case to be reopened, most recently from a group of eight doctors who claimed Lord Hutton's conclusions were unsafe.
    Earlier this month, they argued the wound to Dr Kelly's wrist was unlikely to have been fatal unless he was suffering from a blood-clotting deficiency.
    Their view appears to be supported by the detective who found his body when he said he did not see "much blood" in the vicinity.
    But Mr Hunt said: "In actual fact there were big, thick clots of blood inside the sleeve, which came down over the wrist, and a lot of blood soaked into the ground.
    "They might not have seen it, but it was there and I noted it in my report."
    Mr Hunt told the paper that two of Dr Kelly's main coronary arteries were 70-80% narrower than normal, and his heart disease was so severe that he could have "dropped dead" at any minute.
    "With David Kelly, there were three factors that contributed to his death. If you have narrower arteries, your ability to withstand blood loss falls dramatically," he said.
    "Your heart also becomes more vulnerable to anything that could cause it to become unstable, such as stress - which I have no doubt he was under massively - and the overdose."
    In his report, Mr Hunt found Dr Kelly had taken an overdose of the painkiller co-proxamol but the toxicology reports have also come under scrutiny from those who do not believe the scientist committed suicide.
    New evidence
    The doctors have called for material from the post-mortem examination to be released, and Lord Hutton has said he does not have any objection to them seeing it.
    The peer said in January that the purpose of the secrecy order, made at the conclusion of his inquiry, had been to avoid causing distress to Dr Kelly's family.
    Attorney General Dominic Grieve told the Daily Telegraph last week that those who felt "Lord Hutton did not tie up every loose end may have a valid point".
    But he said he could not apply to the High Court for an inquest on a "hunch" and would have to be shown new evidence before doing so.
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    Nothing to hide but no bugger is allowed to read the report for 70 years.

    Sus or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Lick
    But Mr Hunt said: "In actual fact there were big, thick clots of blood inside the sleeve, which came down over the wrist, and a lot of blood soaked into the ground. "They might not have seen it, but it was there and I noted it in my report."

    So, is Mr Hunt saying that a Police detective failed to discover a great deal of blood at the scene and that he (Mr Hunt) was the only person that witnessed it but failed to mention it to anyone else?

    Eight doctors are suspicious of the conclusions within the report and 2 senior politiicans including MP Norman Baker, who incidentally may be seen as one of the more honourable of MP's (he was instrumental in bringing the MP's expenses scandal to the public's notice) are calling for a full inquest.

    I suspect that the Attorney General is correct in saying that a full inquest should not be commenced on the basis of a hunch although with several qualified doctors questioning the findings this may be seen as something more

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    BULLSHIT!!!!!!!

    His death was far too convenient by half for Blair etc.

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    The facts are being altered according to the way the people in power want to tell the story. Very sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the dogcatcher View Post
    BULLSHIT!!!!!!!

    His death was far too convenient by half for Blair etc.
    That alone was a reason for open process. (unless there was a need for brush under the carpet lasting 70 years)

    We already know Blair has made millions from the Iraq war, killing a load of British troops to get his cash, what's one more corpse when you are looking at that kind of cash?

    Open inquest with independent people tomorrow please.
    Be happy dudes. It's a lot more fun than crying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr Fred
    killing a load of British troops to get his cash
    I don't think he did it for the cash. I reckon that he honestly thought he was doing it for the nation and his legacy. But, he knew he was breaking laws, both national and international, and stepping well over the mark allowed. For this, he should be defending himself in the European/World courts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mr Fred
    killing a load of British troops to get his cash
    I don't think he did it for the cash. I reckon that he honestly thought he was doing it for the nation and his legacy. But, he knew he was breaking laws, both national and international, and stepping well over the mark allowed. For this, he should be defending himself in the European/World courts...
    Revealed: Tony Blairís secret oil links to Middle East | News

    He's making a fortune from companies and countries all over the place. I'll try to dig out the list he was forced to publish a while ago but I do recall it shows his massive, well into the millions income, comes from US companies or places very close to US influence. In other words I'm accusing Mr Tony (The bastard murderer) Blair of taking the UK to an illegal war based on lies so he could line his fucking pockets.

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    ^ I agree that he is making money from, well, mass murder, but I don't think, personally, that was his original motivation; I could be wrong...

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    While I'm usually against nutty conspiracy theorists (911/moon landing/Di) the facts that a file is sealed for 70 years against credible controversy, should prompt people to consider that all is not well.

    It demonstrates that a single authority siding with the establishment, can produce politically expedient findings that are totally at odds with justice and truth.

    Blair, meanwhile, continues to rake it in through the mayhem caused by his term in office.

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