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    Fewer Murders' If Prostitution Allowed

    11:22am UK, Saturday July 24, 2010
    Ian Woods, Australia correspondent
    A leading expert on prostitution has insisted that Britain would have fewer murders if the sex industry was decriminalised.

    His comments come after Prime Minister David Cameron said it may be time to "look again" at the UK's sex laws, in the wake of three killings in Bradford.

    Professor Basil Donovan, the head of the Sexual Health Department at the University of New South Wales, has seen the effect of legalising sex work - the Australian state decriminalised prostitution 15 years ago.

    New South Wales has around 300 council approved brothels, 200 of them in Sydney. He said making the industry legal, makes it safer for all those involved.


    Professor Basil Donovan

    "Decriminalisation results in a healthier sex industry, which means that if your son or your husband sneaks off to the brothel at night, he's far more likely to come home healthy."


    The cases of sexually transmitted diseases and HIV have fallen, with prostitutes able to get condoms for free through government agencies.


    Professor Donovan told Sky News sex workers are more likely to cooperate with police investigations, if they are not threatened with prosecution.

    "You couldn't get a Steve Wright situation in New South Wales," he said.

    Wright murdered five women in Ipswich in 2006. Peter Sutcliffe, the Yorkshire Ripper, preyed on prostitutes in the 1970s and, more recently, three women were killed in Bradford.


    A safe sex 'health' warning to clients

    Prof Donovan said the Wright case was made worse because "you had an industry which was terrified of the police and gave them criminal status".

    The professor continued: "One of the things criminal status does is it depersonalises people. People lose their rights to protection by the state."

    Amore is a nine-room brothel in the west of Sydney. Clients pay around 150 an hour to have sex in rooms which are well equipped and furnished with a bed, spa bath and shower.

    One of the women who works there agreed to give Sky News an insight into the profession. She called herself Randy Dollars and said she was 26 and a former clerical worker.


    "Randy Dollars" feels safe working as a prostitute

    In some other parts of Australia, she would be breaking the law and running the risk of having the premises raided by police. But not in New South Wales.

    "I can actually ask the police for help and support and they're not going to try to arrest me, and I don't have to hide my profession," she said.
    "If there's a client or a person that I feel is of interest to the police, I can call the police and tell them. In a criminalised setting, I would not do that."

    Consequently she says that sex work is like any other job, just "less stressful".


    Janelle Faulkes, chief executive of sex workers association Scarlett Alliance

    "It is meant to be a relaxing environment and when you're worried about things like police raids, or what's going to happen next? Is someone going to bang on the door and rush in and arrest you? It's not relaxing."

    Legalising the profession, she said, meant it is no longer prone to police corruption or links to the underworld.

    Although the rules are meant to keep brothels away from schools and residential neighbourhoods, Amore is on a busy main road, close to smart apartments and opposite a public park and children's playground.

    The sex workers have their own association which lobbies on their behalf.

    Janelle Faulkes, the chief executive of Scarlet Alliance, said what goes on in a brothel is similar to any other neighbourhood - consenting adults have sex behind closed doors.


    Kings Cross in Sydney, an area well known for the sex trade

    "I think we really need to address what is the fear of what goes on in a brothel.," she said.

    "It is adults having sex and going about their day-to-day business. It isn't really something that's going to have a strong impact on the community."

    Mr Cameron talked of "looking again" at Britain's prostitution laws in the wake of the murders in Bradford, but it seems unlikely that it will be high up the Government's agenda.
    There are not many votes to be won by decriminalisation and, potentially, many votes to be lost if it sparked a moral crusade by opponents of reform.

    The law was changed in New South Wales with bi-partisan support but, even 15 years later, it was hard to persuade politicians to talk about the success of liberalising sex laws.
    It may be legal, but the stigma remains and, like the business itself, they prefer to discuss it behind closed doors.

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    The UK is no better than Thailand in that respect, it goes on anyway but Both counties prefer to keep on the statutes as a criminal offense. Of couse it should be decriminalized as most victimless crimes should be.

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    ^ What he said

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    Quote Wikepedia

    ^ & ^^ In the United Kingdom, prostitution itself (the exchange of sexual services for money) is legal.

    Prostitution in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarangRed
    Clients pay around 150 an hour
    Holy cow !

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarangRed
    with prostitutes able to get condoms for free through government agencies.
    So if I got a job as a sales rep would the govt give me a free company car? I mean at 150 quid an hour I'm sure they can afford a box of condoms themselves.

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    it's only soliciting or keeping a brothel that is illegal in UK, selling your cvnt is perfectly legal

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    Other than enforcing the Bible, there is no conceivable reason for Government to outlaw adult prostitution. That is not a legitimate function of government.

    We don't call it prostitution when attractive women get their cars fixed and their homes painted for free to someone they are "putting out" to, but really it is just the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterpan
    The UK is no better than Thailand in that respect, it goes on anyway but Both counties prefer to keep on the statutes as a criminal offense. Of couse it should be decriminalized as most victimless crimes should be.
    Prostitution is legal in the UK. Soliciting in a public place, kerb crawling, keeping a brothel, pimping and pandering, are outlawed. Courtesy of Wikipedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
    Other than enforcing the Bible, there is no conceivable reason for Government to outlaw adult prostitution. That is not a legitimate function of government.

    We don't call it prostitution when attractive women get their cars fixed and their homes painted for free to someone they are "putting out" to, but really it is just the same.
    I believe the Holland's experience with 'legalised/tolerated' prostitution is that the market demand for prostitutes increases and the extra numbers are made up by women trafficked in from poorer countries some willing, many not so willing slaves.

    Personally if people want to have consensual sex in private, for the exchange of money that is their right and nobody's business. However the whole commercial business that surounds prostitution is just a meat grinder that takes young people and grinds the vast majority to dust, which alone should be a good enough reason for banning it; the dutch have proved you cannot regulate it to stop the exploitation.

    In the UK the rates of conviction for murder/manslaughter are in the high 90 percents, most of these crimes are drug and alcohol related so unless this can be delt with the only practical way to reduce murder rates would be to decriminalise murder.

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