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    Former asylum seeker on benefits given 2 million house

    A family of former asylum seekers have moved into a 2.1 million home in one of the smartest areas of London at a cost to the taxpayer of 8,000 a month after complaining about living in a poor area.


    By Martin Evans
    Published: 3:30PM BST 11 Jul 2010

    Abdi and Sayruq Nur, who fled war town Somalia, had been unhappy that their previous home – also paid for by housing benefit – was not convenient for shopping and meant their children had to get the bus to school.
    Now in a move certain to anger taxpayers, the couple and their seven children have relocated to a five bedroom town house in Notting Hill, where they can count artist Lucian Freud and designer Stella McCartney among their neighbours.
    The family’s new home is thought to be one of the most expensive ever paid for by housing benefit and the revelation comes just a month after Ministers pledged to rein in Britain’s 20 billion a year housing benefit bill.
    Mr Nur, 42, an unemployed bus conductor, arrived in Britain with his wife, who is now 40, in 1999 from Somalia and they were granted asylum.
    The family were housed in a five bedroom property in the Kensal Rise area of Brent, at a cost to the taxpayer of 900 a week.
    However last month Mr Nur declared he was unhappy with the property because it was in a “very poor area” and was not convenient for schools and shops.
    He approached officials at the council informing them he had found a new home in the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea.
    Under housing benefit rules anyone who is eligible can claim for a private property if it is suitable for their needs.
    The family’s new home, which is in one of the most sought after areas of London, has five bedrooms, two bathrooms, a fully fitted kitchen and a garden.
    It is close to the attractions of Portobello Market and local celebrities in the area include pop star Damon Albarn, artist Lucian Freud and Sir Paul McCartney’s fashion designer daughter Stella.
    Mr Nur receives 2,000 per week from the council to cover the rent, which he then pays to the landlord, who is understood to be an associate of one of his friends.
    According to local property sources before the Nur family moved in the house was being advertised for 1,050 a week.
    The house is owned by a British Virgin Islands based company called Brophy Group Business Ltd, which bought it for 2.1 million in 2007.
    Mr Nur said he felt the new home was more appropriate for his family’s needs.
    He said: “The new house is good enough and it is near the school and the shops. We need a house this big because we have so many children.
    “The old house was good but the area was not so good. It was a very poor area and there were no buses, no shops and the schools were too far.”
    The Coalition Government has announced sweeping changes to the housing benefit system, which are due to come into effect next April.
    Under new rules a cap of 400 a week will be introduced for families wanting to rent larger properties.
    A spokesman for Kensington and Chelsea council said they had a responsibility to meet the needs of those eligible for benefits and were powerless to stop people moving into private accommodation in the area.
    The spokesman said: “We have been saying for some years now that the way in which the maximum level of housing benefit is calculated is flawed and we welcome the Government’s new changes which begin next year.”
    Matthew Sinclair of the TaxPayers' Alliance said: "With so many working families struggling with their own rents in the recession it is outrageous that taxpayers are being asked to stump up so much for a property far beyond the means of most families.
    "This shows yet again the urgent need for serious reform of the housing benefit system to stop these kind of outrageous and excessive payments."
    Earlier this year it was revealed that a single mother of six was being paid 7,000 a month to live in a five bedroom home in the upmarket Maida Vale area of London.

    Former asylum seeker on benefits given 2 million house - Telegraph

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    Hmmmm.....mixed emotions.



    I feel for those poor Somalis. I mean....Kensal Rise for heavens sake ! Surely the Queen doesn't use all those rooms down at Buckingham Palace. Must have at least one wing that could be converted into apartments for these unhappy people ?

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    Words simply fail me. And I thought the American welfare state was fucked up......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangyai
    last month Mr Nur declared he was unhappy with the property because it was in a “very poor area”
    Quote Originally Posted by Bangyai
    last month Mr Nur declared he was unhappy with the property because it was in a “very poor area”
    As opposed to Somalia?

    Such a discerning gentleman should be sent back at the taxpayers expense, which is considerably less than one months rent on his humble abode, funded by the British taxpayer. Scumbag.

    If a government ignores the repeated cries of it's own people, there is only one effective course of action, being circumvention. Direct action. Picket the damn place, day and night. Carry placards, make noise. You see the thing is, even though the government is quite expert at ignoring and spinning the call of the people, they certainly won't find it so easy to ignore the neighbours of this fine Somalian gentleman, who's lives (in places they actually paid for) are being made Hell by this Direct action. You see, they eat in the same places, talk to the same people .

    Just a Hint.

    Refugee's do not belong in Upmarket real estate (paid for by you). That is something you earn and pay for through your own endeavours, your own blood, sweat and tears. Ultimately, your own success. What a frikkin joke.
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    Meanwhile back at the UKBA the poor stupid leemings ( myself included ) are paying thousands of pounds,,having to provide reams and reams and reams of non sensicle paperwork ,, and our UK legally married wives have to pass some strange ancient history test about the UK ,, which again we have the pleasure of paying for .

    Little wonder people come here illegally , its a lot easier ,, no doubt they will be fast tracked to UK passports soon , so they can take their holidays in the EU without all that schengen mularky
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    Its depressing to read this stuff.

    I know a couple of Thai girls that went over with their 'new men from the UK' did three years, Passport, divorce, payoff and council house - now residing in BKK and renting out the properties to other Thai burds...

    ..nice if you can do it..

    ..I can't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton
    Words simply fail me. And I thought the American welfare state was fucked up......
    No no, we win hands down for gullibility.... I used to be all for giving asylum to people that need it...now I'm more of the camp that says.."that's enough close the bloody gates" We have enough cross sections of cultures to last and thankfully so..I loved the fact that the UK was so diverse....but we tried to get along and intergrate...sadly that ain't the case these days.....and segregation is almost encouraged....by stupid do gooders' and governments across the board...



    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan
    Meanwhile back at the UKBA the poor stupid lemmings ( myself included ) are paying thousands of pounds,,having to provide reams and reams and reams of non sensicle paperwork , and our UK legally married wives have to pass some strange ancient history test about the UK , which again we have the pleasure of paying for .
    Ain't that easy to get Mrs Sole and the nipper back to blighty for good then???? Shit and here was me thinking that I might return soon...for good maybe...
    I'll become Muslim that'll do it surely...

    Quote Originally Posted by Smug Farang Bore
    Its depressing to read this stuff. I know a couple of Thai girls that went over with their 'new men from the UK' did three years, Passport, divorce, payoff and council house - now residing in BKK and renting out the properties to other Thai burds... ..nice if you can do it.. ..I can't.
    Shit gonna get the Mrs back and then we can make a killing.....fuc*k it I fancy living in the south pacific...she can rent out gaffs in the UK from the Net'....what a great idea...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangyai
    Mr Nur receives 2,000 per week from the council to cover the rent, which he then pays to the landlord, who is understood to be an associate of one of his friends.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bangyai
    According to local property sources before the Nur family moved in the house was being advertised for 1,050 a week.
    Say no more.

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    Mr Nur receives 2,000 per week from the council to cover the rent, which he then pays to the landlord, who is understood to be an associate of one of his friends.
    According to local property sources before the Nur family moved in the house was being advertised for 1,050 a week.
    I smell a scam.
    The British government seems to have lost all sense.
    They're being taken advantage of left right and centre.
    In Australia (back when, I don't know about these days). if a you were on the list you took the next housing commission property that came up or you went to the bottom of the list and waited your turn and hoped the next property was more to your liking.
    This is absolute insanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles
    According to local property sources before the Nur family moved in the house was being advertised for 1,050 a week.
    Robbing bastards...I would say Robbing Somalies...but it's bloody everyone these days...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bangyai
    Abdi and Sayruq Nur, who fled war town Somalia
    After his pirate boat was destroyed...by the French...who then gave the family a lift to the shiny shores of Blighty....

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    But please note :- it is the landlord that gets the 2 grand a week rent. He is(usually) in this part of London an absentee foreigner landlord and a company based in some tax haven to avoid paying tax. Gone mad!

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    At least the public housing in the US is so shitty that there is some motivation to work to make enough money to get out of it - unless, of course, you're selling drugs, in which case you're already at work.

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    How much for a Somali Passport this Days, with the one I have now I could not claim asylum. The south coast would be nice, sea view and all. I may give it a shot. If I can make a deal with the landlord I may even get some spare money to holiday in Thailand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cenovis View Post
    How much for a Somali Passport this Days, with the one I have now I could not claim asylum. The south coast would be nice, sea view and all. I may give it a shot. If I can make a deal with the landlord I may even get some spare money to holiday in Thailand.
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    the problem here is not so much the somalis, who are just playing (abusing) the system to their advantage, and who can blame them, but the system itself.

    poorly drafted regulations coupled with anti establishment council officials who not only feel overtly sympathetic to the claimants but who would like nothing more than to place a large family of job seeking asylum seekers next door to the filthy rich of kensington.

    some council housing depts. ( or so i have read) are controlled by mafias who are inclined to "look after their own", and seeing as councils can be penalised for not having a sizeable proportion of ethnics on their payroll, minority groups are well represented, so would not be out of the question to assume that favouritism is involved in placing families in houses.

    of course if anybody in the uk dare voice their suspicions of this, then they would be hit with the racism stick and vast amounts of compensation would need to be paid out.

    it goes without saying that the uk benefit system is in need of a radical and complete overhaul and i hope that the new coalition government have the balls to think the unthinkable and act on it.

    The current housing benefit system was overhauled by the last government in April 2008. Labour Ministers introduced new caps on the amount claimants could receive, depending on the size and location of the property.
    But instead of bringing costs down, the new system encouraged many landlords to raise rents to the level of the maximum allowable.

    The new government has announced further sweeping changes to the housing benefit system, which will come into effect next April.

    The new rules mean claimants living in a four or five-bedroom house will no longer be able to claim more than 400 a week.

    The changes have led to warnings that thousands of families will be forced out of existing homes into cheaper properties.

    But critics say the changes are essential because of mounting concern about the size of some individual claims, particularly in London.

    Earlier this year, it emerged that Essma Marjam, a single mother of six, was being paid nearly 7,000 a month so that she could live in a five-bedroom villa in Maida Vale.

    In December, Francesca Walker, a mother-of-eight who also lived in Kensington and Chelsea, defended her 90,000-a-year housing benefit claims for a 2 million villa in Notting Hill.

    She said the family were completely justified in living there because the council could not find a big enough property.

    The London borough of Kensington and Chelsea last night declined to comment on the specific circumstances of the Nur family's claim.

    The council said it had a responsibility to meet the needs of claimants who were eligible for benefits and was powerless to stop people moving into private accommodation in the area.
    A spokesman said: 'We have been saying for some years now that the way in which the maximum level of housing benefit is calculated is flawed and we welcome the Government's new changes which begin next year.
    'The sums of money that many families claim for housing in the capital and elsewhere is an example of an unreasonably generous benefits system which is open to abuse.'

    A spokesman for Brent Council said: 'Households, whether they are claiming benefits or are in work, are able to make their own arrangements in terms of renting privately, as long as they can find a landlord with a suitable property.
    'This includes decisions about where they live.'
    Mr Nur last night acknowledged the family was lucky to have the new home, but he insisted his family 'were no better or no worse off than anyone else'.

    He also insisted he was doing his best to find a job.
    'I am looking for a job. I am taking a course to train me in how to get a job. I would like any job. Anything in food production or warehouses would be fine.'
    i am taking a course to train me in how to get a job !!!!!!!!!

    paid to go on a course to train him to find a job as a shelf stacker in a warehouse whilst living in a 2000 pound a week house. the absurdity of it all is hard to take in, but a trawl through the uk press will reveal that this is just one of hundreds of similar stories.

    the labour government have got a lot to answer for.

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    ^ Conservatives were just as guilty.. You only have to go back to the 80's with the G.L.C the Ilea to name but a few....

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