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    Drunken Air Rage Property Developer Avoids Jail

    Air rage property developer avoids prison sentence



    Last updated at 5:36 PM on 2nd July 2010

    A property developer who tried to force open an aircraft door and spat on passengers during a drunken rampage on a long haul flight today dodged jail.
    James Green, 31, head butted, punched and kicked stewards while repeatedly swearing after tearing off his shirt when he was refused alcohol by staff.


    Around midnight on November 12 last year Green boarded the Thai Air flight from Bangkok to Heathrow in London.



    Auctioneer James Green was drunk and disorderly on an Air Thai flight. He spat at a passenger and assaulted a steward who tried to stop him opening the door


    The businessman started knocking back booze as soon as the plane took off and three hours into the flight his blood alcohol level was as much as five and a half time the legal driving limit. In fact 13 and a half hours afterwards he was still over the legal drink/drive limit.

    When crew noticed he was paralytic and told him he couldn't have any more to drink he rushed to the toilet and emptied the bins on the floor before repeatedly slamming the door.


    Staff went to warn the pilot and the noise woke one sleeping passenger who saw Green dash to the back of the plane and try to prise open the rear doors.



    The property developer tried to go back to his own seat only to slump onto a sleeping passenger in the row behind him. The man woke up and asked what was happening only to be sworn and spat at.

    Green moved to his own row but turned to face the man between the seats and repeatedly spat on the passenger's face and chest saying: 'Do you want some? Come on then.'


    The entrepreneur stood up again and was handed a warning letter about his behaviour which he ripped up before trying to break into first class where he was confronted by three female crew members who tried to grab him only to be pushed away.

    Green, who 'looked like a psycho', kicked and punched at anyone who came near and tried to go upstairs to business class in the 747 where staff feared he would try and get into the cockpit.


    Three male stewards tried to restrain the crazed businessman, who smashed one in the nose and mouth with a head butt, causing him to bleed profusely.

    Green was continually spitting and screaming 'f*** you, f*** you all' and 'f*** my mother' when the remaining stewards and a male passenger managed to wrestle him to the ground and handcuff him.

    He continued to kick out so his legs were restrained as well with plastic cords leaving him 'trussed up like a chicken'. He continued to shout and swear for an hour until he fell into a boozy sleep.

    Police met the plane as it landed, and Green said sorry and claimed he could not remember anything that had happened. When he was arrested he said: 'But I've apologised.'

    At the time of his misbehaviour the experts put his blood alcohol level in a range of between 225mg and 425mg per litre.The legal drink/drive limit is 80mg.

    Defence Adrian Keeling asked the judge not to jail Green, saying he was embarrassed and remorseful about his behaviour. Mr Keeling said his wealthy client had 60,000 available in cash to offer up in compensation for the incident.
    The barrister said: 'He is a property developer in Thailand where he has been dealing successfully for the past seven years. He spends 90 per cent of his time there.


    He has a Thai partner and supports her and her extended family in a way that is culturally the norm.'

    Sentencing Green to 11 months in prison, suspended for two years, and ordering him to pay 4,800 cost and compensation, Judge Andrew McDowall said: 'The brutally simple fact is that you drank much more than you are capable of handling. Violent and drunken behaviour under any circumstances is unpleasant in public houses and bars.


    People can be literally thrown out and I dare say there was a school of thought that that should be extended to aircraft as well. But as it is, when you are travelling on a long distance flight there is no escape from the kind of behaviour that you have displayed.'

    Green, who lives in Thailand, but has been staying with his mother in Kings Winford, in the West Midlands, pleaded guilty to being drunk on an aircraft, interfering with the performance of an aircraft crew member and two counts of common assault.




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    Pity the aircraft did turn back to Thailand. I'm sure the courts there would have handed him something better.
    I once had a pissed up Australian try to open the door on my fight. Not likely he could open it but no way I wanted to test the idea. Luckily, after a quiet word, he realised he was being a dick head and sat down.
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    He'll be lucky to get on a plane again.

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    Shoulld have been jailed, banned from flying, ordered to pay huge compensation to the assulted staff.

    No air-marshalls on Thai flights then ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bower
    No air-marshalls on Thai flights then ?
    Apparently not. Mores the pity. The twat will hopefully get black listed.

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    'trussed up like a chicken' - A good start, now to get the rest of the "property developers"...

    On a more serious note; awful behaviour; I'm sure many of us would have reacted in a significant manner to being spat at! Presumably, he'll be banned from Thaiair? The guy seems to have gotten off very lightly for his violent actions (if reported correctly).

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    I dunno, I think it's sounded like a reasonable court judgement to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    Presumably, he'll be banned from Thaiair?
    And, if word gets out, which it will, he'll quite likely be barred from other airlines too.

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    James Green, 31, head butted, punched and kicked stewards while repeatedly swearing
    Green moved to his own row but turned to face the man between the seats and repeatedly spat on the passenger's face and chest saying: 'Do you want some? Come on then.'
    the crazed businessman, who smashed one in the nose and mouth with a head butt, causing him to bleed profusely.

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    I think it's sounded like a reasonable court judgement to me.
    not to me, the lout should have done some jail time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    not to me, the lout should have done some jail time.
    Agreed.

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    ^

    if for nothing else but being a property developer in thailand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    Sentencing Green to 11 months in prison, suspended for two years, and ordering him to pay 4,800 cost and compensation,
    it is a jail sentence. just suspended since he is a first time offender.

    I still think it is fair enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    ^ if for nothing else but being a property developer in thailand.


    Can see both sides:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson
    I dunno, I think it's sounded like a reasonable court judgement to me.
    It is easy to get pissed and act stupidly anywhere, especially on a long flight - many of us have done so...

    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    not to me, the lout should have done some jail time.
    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy
    Agreed.
    It's the violence that deserves more than a slap on the wrist; I've been pissed on a plane, drunk too much, been an arse, tried to shag the stewardeses and fallen asleep - wish I hadn't, now improved my behaviour. Head-butting, spitting, 'raging' - is too much. I'm swayed to a bigger fine and a short jail term because he assaulted innocent bystanders/Thai air employees...

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    He offered compensation, plead guilty and expressed remorse for what he did. That so much more than so many other criminals do, they either deny their actions or try to blame someone else. I think the Court showed some real wisdom in not jailing him. Jailing someone who admits his mistake, is remorseful and offers compensation would accomplish nothing.

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    ^ Good point. But, why such a low compensation, especially when he was seemingly prepared to pay more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
    He'll be lucky to get on a plane again.
    Thai Airways, perhaps. As most carriers {per se} don't accumulate a blacklist - one just needs to allow a few months time to pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    'People can be literally thrown out and I dare say there was a school of thought that that should be extended to aircraft as well.'
    Nice one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    why such a low compensation
    "ordering him to pay 4,800 cost and compensation"

    I read that as 4800 costs and compensation on top

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin
    Thai Airways, perhaps. As most carriers {per se} don't accumulate a blacklist - one just needs to allow a few months time to pass.
    I beg to disagree.

    My little brother has done 15 years long haul. His wife 13.

    They're adamant. There is a blacklist, formal or other wise.

    I've seen people dumped at stop offs and believe you me, they're not going any where.

    I agree, that if you give it a rest for a while you might be ok.

    It's not something I'd bank on though.

    Flight crew can refuse to accept customers on board.

    Subject to approval of the Skipper.

    No arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    why such a low compensation
    "ordering him to pay 4,800 cost and compensation"

    I read that as 4800 costs and compensation on top
    I read it the other way, but if you're right, and the compensation comes to, say, 15k to 25k then it'd seem about right. Still unhappy about the violence, his first time?; I'd like more info on his character...

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    IMHO the amount of financial compensation is completely irrelevant.

    Ban him from the air.

    Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy
    My little brother has done 15 years long haul. His wife 13.

    They're adamant. There is a blacklist, formal or other wise.
    As in worked for them ?

    or flying often ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson
    As in worked for them ?
    Both Qantas, long haul FDs

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    These people (idiots) ruin it for us er heavier drinkers who do not cause any problems after a good few.
    Many times I've heard stories of guys being told that they ve had enough after 6 or 7 even though their usual consumption is at least double on any night.
    I think the Airline should accept a letter from the passengers bar owner as proof of capability or carry a drinkers ID card showing your ability to drink.
    They have a Frequent Flyers Card so we can have a Frequent Drinkers Card.

    Works for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smug Farang Bore
    These people (idiots) ruin it for us er heavier drinkers who do not cause any problems after a good few. Many times I've heard stories of guys being told that they ve had enough after 6 or 7 even though their usual consumption is at least double on any night. I think the Airline should accept a letter from the passengers bar owner as proof of capability or carry a drinkers ID card showing your ability to drink. They have a Frequent Flyers Card so we can have a Frequent Drinkers Card. Works for me.
    Nice idea. Would work for me too.

    But, you know that flight crew get feed back from ground crew on passengers at the bar.

    It can all add up to the old "shandy only or nothing at all" bar, on board.

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