Thread: English hooligans intercepted before World Cup

English hooligans intercepted before World Cup

GORDON BELL | JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA - May 31 2010 13:57


British and South African police have foiled an attempt by English hooligans to sneak into the country for the World Cup via Dubai, the police minister said on Monday.

Nathi Mthethwa also said about 3 200 identified hooligans had until Tuesday to hand in their passports to British police to prevent them travelling.

"A month ago some of them were trying to go via Dubai to come to South Africa and both the South African and UK forces were able to nip them," Mthethwa told a news conference.

He said around a dozen hooligans were intercepted but would not give details of where they were stopped. South African officials have said they are working closely with British police to prevent hooligans reaching Africa's first World Cup.

"We really will not take any nonsense this time around ... This commitment by the UK authorities [to ban these hooligans] is not just a commitment it is something concrete."

South African police have little experience of hooliganism which does not occur at soccer matches here, and are relying on spotters and intelligence information from European forces.

The minister said there was no substance to a report in South Africa's Sunday Times saying that chances of a terror attack during the tournament could be as high as 80% and that Pakistani and Somali militants were running training camps in neighbouring Mozambique.

The paper said some militants may have already crossed into the country.

No specific threat
"There is no specific terrorism threat to South Africa as we speak. I don't think our intelligence is weak, we are able to challenge anybody with our intelligence," Mthethwa said.

But he added that this would not make security forces complacent.

"It would, however, be folly for any country to grandstand and proclaim that it is immune to terror attacks."

Analysts say that although no threats have been identified, the World Cup, as the globe's most watched sporting event, would be a tempting target for al-Qaeda and other groups.

Officials have said they are paying particular attention to protecting eight matches but have only mentioned one of them, the game in Rustenburg between England and the United States on June 12, the second day of the tournament.

"The US has been targeted for some time, it will continue to be and it is not alone. There is this possibility wherever the US is. We have not taken any chances," Mthethwa said.

He also dismissed threats from white right-wing groups in South Africa, saying they were being dealt with by police.

Police have recently broken up what they said were right-wing bombing plots, including a plan by white supremacists to plant explosives in black townships.

Africa's largest economy is still struggling to overcome racial tensions 16 years after the end of apartheid, especially in rural communities.

The murder of supremacist leader Eugene Terre'blanche last month stoked those tensions. - Reuters

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I would not want to get on the wrong side of the South African authorities !

Originally Posted by BKKBoet

Nathi Mthethwa also said about 3 200 identified hooligans had until Tuesday to hand in their passports to British police to prevent them travelling.

3,200 ?

I guess Jeff Savage will be missing this one...............

Well the english old bill are going to be busy this time next year Thailand England in bangers The BiB aren't going to know what hit em English V English scores to settle etc etc

^

Instead of taking their passports they should have just given them free tickets to Pattaya. That way they could at least visit their fathers.

And there's a thread in the lounge called "Should Americans be allowed to live overseas"...

Even without the registered hooligans, the behavior of the english 'fans' in S.A. will most likely rule them out of a future host bid. Must learn how to behave abroad.

Not a problem for us Scots, we can't be arsed going anyway.

Originally Posted by FailSafe

And there's a thread in the lounge called "Should Americans be allowed to live overseas"...

Oh how youve changed since your first posts here. Seems TD has dragged you down some.

I wonder how many shopping centers they would burn down if England lost to the Americans in game one.

Originally Posted by astasinim

Originally Posted by FailSafe

And there's a thread in the lounge called "Should Americans be allowed to live overseas"...

Oh how youve changed since your first posts here. Seems TD has dragged you down some.

Nah- I just came to the realization that there's only one way to play here- the 'high road' doesn't exist on TD.

"British and South African police have foiled an attempt by English hooligans to sneak into the country for the World Cup via Dubai, the police minister said on Monday".

Foiled that one maybe, but make no mistake we will be there in force !

Originally Posted by astasinim

Fook me. Listen to you lot. What a bunch of sad windbags you are.

Let me try and educate you a little bit. The "English football hooligan" is a nothing compared to what it was 20-30 years ago. It mainly comprises of a few die hard old idiots, who are desperately trying to cling onto there youth.

Todays Cass pennant`s are to be found in Russia, Germany, or other former eastern block countries. If they were to be reading this thread, they`d likely be pissing themselves at the way your all "bigging up" the English hooligan.

Do yourselves a favour guys, and stick to what your best at. Being an ex pat.

Well googled pal.

Most of the people I know who's passports aren't valid during big internationals run big above board firms in their "day jobs".

you think any one of them would risk a shortfall in their money, M3's and charlie for some illiterate pig farmin fundamentalist with a shank - you know nothing.

P.S you cant be British.

Originally Posted by FailSafe

the 'high road' doesn't exist on TD.

It does, but I'm quite lonely up here . . .

BKK RUNNER, You're a bit of an expert on this football stuff.

What do you reckon will happen in SA ?

Originally Posted by bkkrunner

Well googled pal.

Eh?

Originally Posted by bkkrunner

Most of the people I know who's passports aren't valid during big internationals run big above board firms in their "day jobs".
you think any one of them would risk a shortfall in their money, M3's and charlie for some illiterate pig farmin fundamentalist with a shank - you know nothing.

But theyre willing to risk it in their home country? Sorry I dont follow. If their passports arent valid for big internationals, then they are obviously well known in police circles, yet hold down high position jobs. To my mind, they are already risking a shortfall in their money.

Are you saying todays "firms", are anything like they were in the 70`s or 80`s? The last couple of "firms" ive seen in action, were some 40-50 odd year old "service crew" members, who thought they were back in their hayday. Similar with the "Bushwackers", only they seemed slightly younger. Like I said, nothing compared with yesteryear.

Originally Posted by bkkrunner

P.S you cant be British.

Nope. Im English.

Well put, Well said.

astasinim

Very well done.

Asta you're bang on with what you said in your first post, the east Europeans and Scottish pose a far greater risk to peace than any ageing beer bellied Brit.
Will the the rest of the world please fokoff with your bigoted preconceptions.

Speak up bkkrunner.

Speak up you disgraceful piece of shit.

You and your retard friends who embarrass us all with your sorry excuses and mindless drivel.

Your embarrassing excuses for your diminutive genitalia, inability to learn, your failure in life.

Let's get it straight, you've failed.

In life, in relationships, in friendship.

The only thing left is to go and batter the fok out of the your own shadows.

Your reflections.

You're going to beat your self up.,

Enjoy.

Originally Posted by jandajoy

What do you reckon will happen in SA ?

Well seeing as ive popped my head above the parapet. I reckon, they`ll end up with a few pissed up Brits (letting the side down as usual), who somehow feel the need to have a bit of a rumble, cos some boxhead was lukin at me funny like. Usually, these types dont say boo to a goose, but somehow feel invincible whilst in large groups, and supporting their national team. There might even be some of the genuine hooligans in the background egging them on, as their usual troops are being held at borders for trying to travel on false passports.

Originally Posted by astasinim

they`ll end up with a few pissed up Brits (letting the side down as usual), who somehow feel the need to have a bit of a rumble, cos some boxhead was lukin at me funny like. Usually, these types dont say boo to a goose, but somehow feel invincible whilst in large groups, and supporting their national team. There might even be some of the genuine hooligans in the background egging them on, as their usual troops are being held at borders for trying to travel on false passports.

Seems fair.

Any reason to believe the SA forces will take a lenient view towards acknowledged and identified British Hooligans/terrorists.

Dare I suggest that they may be so termed?

TERRORISTS.

I'm sure links will b found.

And rightly so.

They`ll probably be al nicey nicey in front of the worlds media, except in extreme cases, where they`ll probably show their hand. Once they get someone out of sight, the miscreant will probably receive swift retribution.