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    Pope says gay marriage is 'insidious and dangerous'

    Pope says gay marriage is 'insidious and dangerous' - Telegraph
    Pope says gay marriage is 'insidious and dangerous'

    The Pope condemned same sex marriage as a "dangerous and insidious" challenge to society in an address to half a million Catholic faithful.



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    Published: 7:00PM BST 13 May 2010

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    Pope Benedict XVI during the traditional 13th May annual mass at Fatima's Sanctuary Photo: AP

    Tens of thousands of pilgrims had flooded into the famous shrine town of Fatima on Thursday for Pope Benedict XVI's Mass Photo: AP

    Pope Benedict XVI prays in front of the tombs of the shepherd children at the end of a mass at Fatima's sanctuary Photo: AP


    In a strongly worded attack, Benedict XVI insisted that marriage should be founded on the "indissoluble" marriage between a man and a woman.
    Addressing a huge crowd at the shrine of Fatima at the climax of his four day visit to Portugal, the 83-year-old Pope said that same sex marriage and abortion were among the "most insidious and dangerous challenges that today confront the common good."


    He expressed his "profound appreciation" for anti-abortion campaigners, who he praised for defending the right to life and the "recovery of people wounded by the drama of abortion".
    The Vatican regards being homosexual as a "deviation" and an "irregularity" and the act of homosexual sex as a sin.
    In December a leading Roman Catholic cardinal reinforced the message, saying that homosexuality was an "insult to God" and that homosexuals and transsexuals will never go to heaven.
    In remarks which outraged gay rights groups, Cardinal Javier Lozano Barragan, 76, claimed that people were not born homosexual, but chose to embrace homosexuality of their own free will.
    The Pope himself angered homosexual groups in December 2008 when he suggested that the need to save humanity from the harmful blurring of gender roles was as critical as conserving the world's rainforests.
    Stonewall, the British lesbian and gay lobby group, condemned the Pope’s remarks.
    “Some might say that it’s dangerous and insidious for the Pope to spend so much time publicly belittling gay, lesbian and bisexual people,” said Derek Munn, director of public affairs.
    Left-leaning MPs in Italy have proposed various kinds of legislation for some kind of homosexual union in recent years.
    But the measures have gone nowhere in the face of stiff opposition from the Vatican, which continues to wield enormous influence over Italian politics.
    The Pope's remarks carried particular resonance for his host country – three years ago Portugal decriminalised abortion and it is now on the verge of legalising homosexual unions.
    A law allowing same-sex marriage was passed by parliament in February.
    President Anibal Cavaco Silva, a practising Catholic, is expected to sign the bill into law by May 17, three days after the end of the papal visit.
    His ratification would make Portugal the sixth country in Europe to allow same-sex marriages after Belgium, the Netherlands, Spain, Sweden and Norway.
    In Britain, same sex marriage is not legal, but since 2005 homosexual couples have been allowed to enter into civil partnerships, which carry the same rights and responsibilities as marriage.
    One of Christianity's most important pilgrimage sites, the shrine of Fatima consists of an enormous white basilica marking the spot where three Portuguese shepherd children, while picnicking on wild mushrooms, allegedly witnessed a series of apparitions of the Virgin Mary in 1917.
    The Pope's visit commemorated the anniversary of the first apparition – May 13.
    He was greeted with cheers and applause when he arrived at the steps of the basilica in his bullet-proof "Popemobile", with pilgrims from more than 30 different countries chanting "Vivo o Papa" – Portuguese for Long Live the Pope.

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    Well let's face it, the kiddie fiddling nazi does have the moral high ground.

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    One would think he had more important issues to deal with than indulging in more gay-bashing.

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    How is it 'gay bashing'?
    He's saying what he thinks is all. It is still allowed isn't it?
    Personally I'm all for gay marriage, as long as both chicks are hot.

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    Don't be sexist, bitches don't like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Well let's face it, the kiddie fiddling nazi does have the moral high ground.
    Yeah, that's funny, what the fuck? Really.
    They just can't say anything anymore.

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    ^^^And the consumation of their marriage is filmed.

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    It's amazing that so many people in this World are stupid enough to care what this old perverted moron has to say about anything. I've met many people at home who are intelligent and otherwise rational, but who believe that some god has nothing better to do than make sure they spent an hour in a Catholic Church every Sunday morning. Is this stupidity or schizophrenia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Don't be sexist, bitches don't like that.
    Fuck off, they love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Well let's face it, the kiddie fiddling nazi does have the moral high ground.
    This hypocrisy is what blows me away.

    I have no respect for this piece of sh*t.

    Remember, the P*do accusations and abuse were called "petty rumors" by the Pople.

    I've never liked the Pope or the Catholic church, but now, I say it out loud.

    How could someone be affiliated or involved with a group of weirdos, like that in the Catho church?

    (Rhetorical question.)
    ............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dug
    How is it 'gay bashing'? He's saying what he thinks is all. It is still allowed isn't it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Dug
    Addressing a huge crowd at the shrine of Fatima at the climax of his four day visit to Portugal, the 83-year-old Pope said that same sex marriage and abortion were among the "most insidious and dangerous challenges that today confront the common good."

    The Vatican regards being homosexual as a "deviation" and an "irregularity"
    Problem is that he isn't just saying what he thinks, he is stating the official policy which millions of catholics are supposed to follow.

    Two people wanting to get married or some woman getting an abortion don't even come close to "insidious and dangerous challenges that today confront the common good" in my opinion. The only danger they might pose is to his claims to be the infallible interpreter of his god's will on earth.

    Someone blindly following misguided religious dogma is far more dangerous; how many cases of HIV could be prevented if this guy dropped the prohibition on using condoms?

    Yabbering on about the shroud of turin (last week) and some kids tripping on 'shrooms (this week) is a massive cop-out. The organisation he leads is in a crisis of biblical (heehee) proportions and he decides the way to deal with it is to set off on a PR campaign and take potshots at gays.
    bibo ergo sum
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    Pope says marriage is 'insidious and dangerous'
    Fucking straight.

    Personally, i respect the right of gay people to be just as miserable as their heterosexual counterparts.

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    ^ and bobr, spot on...owe you greens, I've given out too much in the last 24 hours I'm told....great comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
    It's amazing that so many people in this World are stupid enough to care what this old perverted moron has to say about anything. I've met many people at home who are intelligent and otherwise rational, but who believe that some god has nothing better to do than make sure they spent an hour in a Catholic Church every Sunday morning. Is this stupidity or schizophrenia?
    I had a friend commit suicide. A family friend called me the next night and wanted to know what happened.

    She then proceeded to tell me that she could not attend the funeral because it is against catholic doctrine to commit suicide...

    jack A$$es

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    intresting?

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    skitsoid or duality. no wonder the world is mad . but not completly mad yet, but close . read somewhere that "greed" comes from the christian book. if you're greedy you go to hell .people have(had) to live with this conflict all through their miserable boring lives . greed is a fact ,so what is non-greed ?

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