Thread: Britain must fend for itself in event of crisis, French official warns

Originally Posted by nikster

Originally Posted by Sdigit

history shows that we've a lot more resolve, a lot more stamina and a lot more fight in us than you lot will ever have.

Nationalism is retarded.

However, your remark shows why the EU never gets anything done. Lots of little nations fighting each other instead of working together.

BTW I am not a yank, I am from one of these EU countries too.

Protecting ones own national interest is nothing more than diligence. BTW I like yanks

Originally Posted by Sdigit

That's just statistics Noodles, after such a massive hit taken in the down turn any small bounce back would seem to be huge growth on paper

The fact is, nikster said the UK 'manufactures nothing'.

Originally Posted by nikster

The UK is a services based economy which manufactures nothing

about 80% is services based, still about 18% manufacturing.

Originally Posted by Sdigit

Originally Posted by helge

And you know something: If the pound goes under, you will be bailed out, even though you act as spoiled kids now( Just like Thatcher did).

To be fair to her, she was just reclaiming some of our money, we were paying a massive amount into Europe at that time, a disproportionately massive amount, it wasn't fair and she just wanted a fair deal for us.

Its many years ago now, and I'll take your word for it, but thats not how it was spelled out here. She got the discount via blackmail, as far as I remember.

And if she could, she should. All history now

Originally Posted by Sdigit

BTW I like yanks

That'll earn you a few greens

Originally Posted by helge

She got the discount via blackmail, as far as I remember.

I thought she was dishing out BJ's in the toilets.

The Euro will die. And it's a good thing.

Europe will die as well, and it's much better. All the cunts in Bruxelles will have to find a real job. For most of them it will be the end of easy money. Somnamna.

Originally Posted by helge

That'll earn you a few greens

And a few reds.

Originally Posted by pompeybloke

Originally Posted by Butterfly

^ it would be since you guys have been harboring a few Muslim terrorists for years that were planning attacks in Paris and the rest of Europe

Those would be the ones that arrive via Calais, Caen and Cherborg that French immigration accidently/on purpose turn a blind eye to.

Yep, their like ants running around these places.

Originally Posted by Wallalai

All the cunts in Bruxelles will have to find a real job.

You are dreaming ! Nice dream though

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Originally Posted by nikster

The UK is a services based economy which manufactures nothing.

UK Manufacturing grew at its fastest pace for 15 years in Q1 of 2010, so I guess they must manufacture something.

I read that too. My guess is that they are refering to sandwiches.

The UK should really make up its mind about the EU. Either they're in it 100% and take on board all that entails or they get out of it and go their own way. I'm surprised the rest of Europe has put up with this shit form the UK for so long. At least if the UK did join properly, we could make the French follow EU law properly, instead of flouting everyone that doesn't suit them.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Either they're in it 100% and take on board all that entails or they get out of it and go their own way. I'm surprised the rest of Europe has put up with this shit form the UK for so long.

good point, well said. Everyone in the EU zone agree on that, it seems that only Brits are having selective memory.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

At least if the UK did join properly, we could make the French follow EU law properly, instead of flouting everyone that doesn't suit them.

heu, maybe not a good plan after all

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

we could make the French follow EU law properly

Yeh, you sound easily fooled. It will become a centralised 'Super-state'. Behind the scenes, since well before 1957, political union – secretively! - Has been THE target. As is starting to be seen today, economic union would always fail without it.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

The UK should really make up its mind about the EU. Either they're in it 100% and take on board all that entails or they get out of it and go their own way.

Don't forget how the EEC>EC>Eu was sold to the brits, danes etc.
Just trade, and surely no political union. We were lured into this crab, and I appreciate the brits being sceptics.

Originally Posted by helge

Don't forget how the EEC>EC>Eu was sold to the brits, danes etc. Just trade, and surely no political union. We were lured into this crab, and I appreciate the brits being sceptics.

It is a Customs Union, a common tariff structure with third countries, ensuring income is paid into a central EU fund; FTA allows ‘freedom’.

It is an unprincipled, unaccountable ‘Gravy Train’ for those on it, controlled by a ‘board’ of unelected ‘Commissioners’. The UK should leave to end the drain on the country’s finances, reintroduce the full authority of Westminster and impose British policies on Agriculture and Fisheries. Let's face it, there never has been a ‘common agenda’ here. THE 'EURO' DEPENDS ON POLITICAL INTEGRATION.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Originally Posted by Sdigit

That's just statistics Noodles, after such a massive hit taken in the down turn any small bounce back would seem to be huge growth on paper

The fact is, nikster said the UK 'manufactures nothing'.

Originally Posted by nikster

The UK is a services based economy which manufactures nothing

about 80% is services based, still about 18% manufacturing.

Yes ok,my bad

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

The UK should really make up its mind about the EU. Either they're in it 100% and take on board all that entails or they get out of it and go their own way. I'm surprised the rest of Europe has put up with this shit form the UK for so long. At least if the UK did join properly, we could make the French follow EU law properly, instead of flouting everyone that doesn't suit them.

OK, as far as I'm aware, the UK was asked to contribute 15 Billion (pounds) towards the Greek economic crisis (as a member of the EU, which the UK agreed to do. Where the (what is now previous Chancellor) could not agree, is that the UK, as a non-member of the Euro currency, would contribute 50 billion towards the European Bank in the event that a Euro currency member faced difficulties.

I think ultimately, how can a non currency member pledge significant monies towards supporting a financial system of which they have no significant influence over.

Actually the Arabs are trying for monetary union, but it would mean everyone knowing how much money the sheikhs are ripping off, so it won't happen.

What I can't understand is why the Eurotrash want more money from us when we already send the cunts billions in handouts just for turning up.

I totally support the UK and its anti-EU positions. I remember our economists working on the euro exchange rate mechanism and currency bands in the early 1990s. Fekin hogwash, I said. Who in their right mind would want to join an economic group and currency with the likes of Portugal, Spain and France?

The UK may face a boycott from the EU akin to what Arizona is facing (from bankrupt California), but it will do well, with help from the Commonwealth countries and the US. Once Cameron also addresses the social issues (kick the radical muslims out), the Brits should get their momentum back.

And yes, as noted above, the IMF (funded by the USA et al) is funding a lot of the payback for this wasteful Greek spending. How fast would the EU pitch in to bail out California or New York? Ha.

Originally Posted by helge

Originally Posted by Sdigit

BTW I like yanks

That'll earn you a few greens

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Originally Posted by helge

That'll earn you a few greens

And a few reds.

I do love TD.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

I totally support the UK and its anti-EU positions. I remember our economists working on the euro exchange rate mechanism and currency bands in the early 1990s. Fekin hogwash, I said. Who in their right mind would want to join an economic group and currency with the likes of Portugal, Spain and France?

The UK may face a boycott from the EU akin to what Arizona is facing (from bankrupt California), but it will do well, with help from the Commonwealth countries and the US. Once Cameron also addresses the social issues (kick the radical muslims out), the Brits should get their momentum back.

And yes, as noted above, the IMF (funded by the USA et al) is funding a lot of the payback for this wasteful Greek spending. How fast would the EU pitch in to bail out California or New York? Ha.

Originally Posted by helge

Originally Posted by Sdigit

BTW I like yanks

That'll earn you a few greens

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Originally Posted by helge

That'll earn you a few greens

And a few reds.

I do love TD.

Maybe you have forgotten that all the european central banks bought up US bonds when Bush travelled to europe begging for help in the start of the economic collapse in the US, case of short or selective memory Jet?

If the EU+ Eurozone, who at present is the worlds largest economy, comes perilous close to economic collapse I am sure the US will be forced to step in to help as they where helped by the Europeans in their hour of need, just as the Europeans could not afford to let the Dollar crash and their bonds get worthless, the same goes for the US the other way round, economies and the stock-markets would go down in flames all over the place.

The French ministers idle threaths is funny but probably not more, in the event of an English crisis the EU would have to bail out England just as they had to do with Greece, The EU can much less afford an English crash compared to a Greek one, but there is no doubt that same aid would come at a much higher prize if England alienates itself even more from the rest of the EU.

All the beating on the nationalistic drums is great and very sweet, you can stand with clenched fists at the cliff's of Dover, play Vera Lynn records and old Churchill speeches (Bless the old guy, we all owe him), but unfortunately world economics and speculators has no such feelings, all is connected like a row of dominos, it's a very different world.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Actually the Arabs are trying for monetary union, but it would mean everyone knowing how much money the sheikhs are ripping off, so it won't happen.

What I can't understand is why the Eurotrash want more money from us when we already send the cunts billions in handouts just for turning up.

Yet one more poster that seems to think that England is not a patient on the critical ward, and if it needs to ring the bell the doctor will be German

I don't like it anymore than you do but that is the harsh reality.

Originally Posted by larvidchr

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Actually the Arabs are trying for monetary union, but it would mean everyone knowing how much money the sheikhs are ripping off, so it won't happen.

What I can't understand is why the Eurotrash want more money from us when we already send the cunts billions in handouts just for turning up.

Yet one more poster that seems to think that England is not a patient on the critical ward, and if it needs to ring the bell the doctor will be German

I don't like it anymore than you do but that is the harsh reality.

If after Greece, Spain, Portugal, Eire and then GB (not England) needs bailing out, by then why do you think Germany could help ? all its monetary and national wealth is in, what will be worthless euros.
I think if Germany is so strong it would pull out of the euro before it got dragged down! Remember all those US bonds it holds.

Originally Posted by Bower

I think if Germany is so strong it would pull out of the euro before it got dragged down!

The Germans would love to have their Mark back and they were never asked if they would like to join in a referendum.
Germany are in the EU and the Euro for political and historic reasons.

They are still a strong economic mastodont

Originally Posted by larvidchr

All the beating on the nationalistic drums is great and very sweet, you can stand with clenched fists at the cliff's of Dover, play Vera Lynn records and old Churchill speeches (Bless the old guy, we all owe him), but unfortunately world economics and speculators has no such feelings, all is connected like a row of dominos, it's a very different world.

Is it such a crime to be pissed off, when some eurocrat has the cheek to dictate to another country. Its ok for you expats, you dont have to live in this mess.