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    what does "moore" means ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    what does "moore" means ?
    Moored means tied in one position with chains (or in the case of the Horizon, soft-line) and anchors. Heading always in the same direction - not like a drillship for example that can change heading - rotating around the slip joint.

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    Bottom line is there is nowhere to go..The gas will settle around the base of the rig due to it being heavier than air. The only way is up
    H2S (Hydrogen Sulphide) incapacitates very quickly depending on the amount in the air.
    Its an no win situation for the crew go up and take your chances in the flames,or go down and see if you can beat the H2S.

    Not a choice I would ever like to make..

    Really not much of a choice for the guys on deck that could not get back to the accommodation..
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehighlander959 View Post
    Bottom line is there is nowhere to go..The gas will settle around the base of the rig due to it being heavier than air. The only way is up
    H2S (Hydrogen Sulphide) incapacitates very quickly depending on the amount in the air.
    Its an no win situation for the crew go up and take your chances in the flames,or go down and see if you can beat the H2S.

    Not a choice I would ever like to make..

    Really not much of a choice for the guys on deck that could not get back to the accommodation..
    This wasn't H2S - just your normal LEL highly flamable natural gas...

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    OK. I stand corrected.
    My next question?
    So there is no H2S in the oil being drilled in the Gulf Of Mexico?
    Which leads onto the fact that this catastrophic explosion was a huge gas bubble emanating from deep inside the well resorvoir?
    And there was no equipment in place to give prior warning at the wellhead that something was wrong downhole?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehighlander959 View Post
    OK. I stand corrected.
    My next question?
    So there is no H2S in the oil being drilled in the Gulf Of Mexico?
    Which leads onto the fact that this catastrophic explosion was a huge gas bubble emanating from deep inside the well resorvoir?
    And there was no equipment in place to give prior warning at the wellhead that something was wrong downhole?
    Very few wells drilled in the Gulf of Mexico (deepwater) are H2S wells. There are some I've heard of off Texas to the west and and possibly some off Florida but these days most drilling is concentrated in Mississippi Canyon where there is no H2S that I'm aware. There are many safety devices that give prior warning of gas emissions but, as said before, we don't know all the answers yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    That rig didn't have an Acoustic capabiity - remote closing. Anyhow, it was more than likely frozen...
    I've read that remote closing is a "must" on oil rigs arround the word...except in the Gulf.

    Any info ?

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    Some more pictures,……………..


















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    Too bad obama can't blame a US co for this.
    Thanks Rigger, Boomie and all for the expert input. And yes, hearts and prayers to the families of those lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rigger
    I dont get your point, and doesnt really matter once you have lost control of a well you are stuffed no matter what distance you are from the Bop.
    a land rig is going to continue to sit on top of the well head and have the gas and liquids pouring though it.

    on the semi sub I would expect it only to have the initial flow until the drill string broke/cracked/deformed.
    Yes a land rig will not move until it goes up in flames and then it doesnt take long for the whole lot to come crashing down. As for a blow out initally coming up the drill string ? very rare never seen it myself.
    So how long does it take a semi sub to disconnect and move off a well ? I bet you it aint as quick as I can get in my 4x4 and get the fok out of their .

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    Too bad obama can't blame a US co for this.
    Thanks Rigger, Boomie and all for the expert input. And yes, hearts and prayers to the families of those lost.
    Of course, you couldn't help it but politicize it and turn it into a partisan muddslinging - you're not just stupid, but you just did a nice job spitting on the memories and families of those who died. Congratulations.

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    BP CEO recent speech may well indicate there was a "unplanned" event!

    He told the BBC: "In terms of the responsibility, I want to be very clear about this, this was not our accident but it is our responsibility to deal with the leak and to clean up the oil. We take that very seriously and that is what we are going to do.

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    A BP executive telling congress he will not cum in their mouth.




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    And on a positive note, BP: creating the private sector jobs the feds won’t do.



    Workers line up to start the day to help clean up the oil spill, in Venice, La., Tuesday, May 4, 2010.

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    you work with oil you get big bucks but run the risk of death.
    You work at Tescos you earn fuck all but go home safe.

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    BP giving some information,………

    TimesOnline reports that BP "launched a new front in its battle to contain the spill, as engineers began drilling a relief well designed to cut off the leaking oil permanently."

    "The new well, which is in 5,000 feet of water, is planned to intercept the existing well at 13,000 feet — about two miles — below the seabed. It will be used to inject cement to cap the one that is leaking."

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    BP Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles said the company had fashioned the first of three domes designed to be placed "over the leak sources and allow us to collect the oil, funnel it up through pipework to a drill ship called Enterprise on the surface."

    He added that the company expects to load the fabricated containment chamber on Tuesday "and we hope to have the system up and operating within a week."

    More to the story: http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0504/bp-stopping-oil-spill-months/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rigger View Post
    So what they have at the momment is total BOP failed as well cemment plugs didnt hold plus float & shoe failed or the last casing shoe cemment job failed. plus you still have all the well montering fuk ups that some one should of picked up on.
    What a cock up.
    Seems you have summed it up fairly well. Halliburton will be called to task for the cement job for sure as well as the equipment they supplied to do the job. Their stock will take a hit in the not to distant future I would guess. About the only way to prove it is to run cement bond survey if and/or when the well is ever killed and access to the production casing is returned to normal.

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    Halliburton's and Transocean's stock is down significantly.

    This cleanup and fallout from the accident will be going on for quite a while. What remains questionable is the cofferdam BP is going to attempt to lower onto the well head. Getting it down 5K feet and directly ontop of what's left of the LMRP / BOP's is going to be a trick. They first have to get that one section of riser out of the stack.

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    Would imagine parts the drill ship, rig, drill pipe, etc will have to be cleared, but some of the underwater robot devices available are amazing. Hope their immediate fix will work, it would save a lot of spill while relief well is drilled.Oil drilling has been going on for 60+ years alone the La. coast and for several decades offshore, I do not remember, hearing of a spill of this size this close to beach/land before. Any major slick will affect oyster beds, shrimp trawling, fishing, etc. With affects from the hurricane and now this threat, the fertile bayou country and people will be tested again. Best of luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth
    A BP executive telling congress he will not cum in their mouth.
    Is he of the Irish persuasion?

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    As I said in a previous post. BP would have had a SSW (Safe System of Work) in place. I have no doubt that they would be using BP,s PTW (Permit to Work) system.

    Their drilling Managers and Engineers who are on rotation would have to be up to speed on the current operational situation concerning the well, as they have daily briefings withe the Drilling Team from Transocean and regular updates from the Halliburton and Cameron people who are on board at these meetings who work in conjunction with the drilling team and the toolpusher.

    I said above and I stand by this, these events are rarely caused by one catastrophic failure, It is normally a sequence or chain of uncontrolled events that leads to a more serious accident/incident.

    I think that during the investigation BP will find the answers, as a major oil company they have to considering the loss of life.

    Don,t be surprised though that some of the contractors and sub contractors involved in this come out of this incident smelling of roses.

    There is no blame culture offshore!!! however there are always more negligable people than others when it comes to serious incidents.

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    Don,t be surprised though that some of the contractors and sub contractors involved in this come out of this incident not smelling of roses.

    My apologies gentlemen.. typing faster than thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehighlander959 View Post
    As I said in a previous post. BP would have had a SSW (Safe System of Work) in place. I have no doubt that they would be using BP,s PTW (Permit to Work) system.
    There is no blame culture offshore!!! however there are always more negligable people than others when it comes to serious incidents.
    I would have to disagree with this (respectfully) having worked for contractors for years we never used the clients PTW, even during SIMOPS, the systems would have to work together.
    If a rig is working for a lot of different clients it would be impracticable for contractors personnel to learn every clients system, "most" major drilling contractors now have safety systems to equal or be better than oil companies.

    But as stated we live in a no blame culture, so we can learn from this incident, sadly whatever we do learn has had a very hefty price attached hopefully their families can come to terms with what happened.
    RIP guys.........

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    I thought it would be the pressure that would hold them back, but it turns out it might be/is ice.

    Gulf of Mexico oil spill continues; BP's ‘dome' is unable to contain leak

    BILOXI, Miss. -- A mammoth white containment dome placed over a leaking oil well 5,000 feet below the surface of the Gulf of Mexico had to be moved away from the well Saturday after ice-like crystals clogged the massive steel-and-concrete box.

    The buildup of crystals also made the box too buoyant, BP chief operating officer Doug Suttles said.

    the rest of the story with pictures: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/05/08/1619615/dome-placed-over-oil-well.html

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