View Poll Results: Are you happy your rights as a viewer have been protected

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  • Yes, can't beat a nice vid of gerbils being stamped to death

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  • No, ban the lot and cut their balls off

    7 53.85%
  • I like high heels and stamping on small furry animals

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  • Who gives a toss

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    USA - Crushing to death small animal videos in high heels is legal

    US court ends animal cruelty law


    Lawyers argued animal cruelty should not be protected by the constitution.

    The US Supreme Court has ruled that a law which makes it illegal to sell videos of animals being tortured, violates the right to free speech.

    Chief Justice John Roberts said the law was too broad and invalid under the First Amendment, Reuters reports.

    The ruling is a victory for Robert Stevens, who was sentenced to three years in prison in 2005 for making and selling videos of dog fights.

    The 1999 law was intended to prevent depictions of animal cruelty.

    It was adopted by the US Congress and originally aimed at limiting internet sales of "crush" videos which show women crushing small animals with high-heeled shoes
    Mr Stevens has argued that the videos were intended to educate people about the pit bull breed and that he was not trying to promote illegal dog-fighting.

    His conviction was the first in the US under the law.

    Justice Samuel Alito, who dissented, said the harm animals suffered in dogfights was enough to sustain the law.

    US Justice department lawyers have said that animal cruelty videos should not be entitled to any constitutional protection, but treated like child pornography, Reuters notes.

    Chief Justice Roberts added that the law goes too far and suggested a measure limited to "crush" videos instead, AP reports.


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    Got to love the 1st Amendment....

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    Don't be fooled by the BBC headline. The ruling does not overturn animal cruelty laws. It over turns the law that disallows videos of animal cruelty. As with a lot of other distasteful things found on the internet, the first amendment states folks have the right to show them without censorship. I find many things objectionable on the internet but agree with the decision. Having governments decide what can and cannot be expressed and where will it stop. We can see where government defined censorship and freedom of expression laws lead as observed here in Thailand.

    "The Supreme Court struck down a federal law Tuesday aimed at banning videos that show graphic violence against animals, saying it violates the right to free speech. "

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36664233...me_and_courts/
    Last edited by Norton; 21-04-2010 at 09:11 PM.
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    ^And quite right to, amerikan people should be allowed the freedom to watch videos of women in high heels stamping to death small cuddly mammals, personally I shall stick to normal porn sites for my entertainment.

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    Forgot to add a weather banner that is relevent to the story, difficult choice between Utah and Iowa....




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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    difficult choice between Utah and Iowa....
    Supreme court is Washington DC. Got one for them.

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    Anybody got some jucy Michael Vick videos?

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    ridiculous poster


    Stupid questions.

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    Animal cruelty is still a serious crime in most American States and this ruling has no effect on that.

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    True, it is the distribution of the depiction of acts of cruelty that is not criminalised.

    My question would be . . . why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat
    My question would be . . . why not?
    Agree. Should be a lot more stuff illegal. My list:

    US military criticism.
    Police criticism.
    Presidential criticism.
    Congress criticism.
    US corporate criticism.
    Any mention of Americans being over weight.
    Anything positive to say about Iran, N. Korea, Australia or UK.

    Could all be punishable under a single law. Patriot Act - Americanus.
    Last edited by Norton; 23-04-2010 at 12:07 PM.

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    Norton wants to shut this board down and make it accessible only to people who crush hamsters under ten-inch stilettos

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil
    Help!
    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat
    Norton wants to shut this board down and make it accessible only to people who crush hamsters under ten-inch stilettos
    What are you two on about?

    Seems you have issue with depiction of animal cruelty. Fair enough. Anything else you would like to add to your list of illegal subjects?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Anything else you would like to add to your list of illegal subjects?
    White dress shoes.

    Yes.

    Unacceptable. Especially shiny, lacquer type ones. Ask LT, he knows what I'm referring to


    Thank you

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    Loytoy wears white dress shoes? I thought he was happily married.




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    Oh yes, typical Gold Coast type . . . slicked hair and white shoes . . . usually no socks.

    These people can still be nice, though . . . kind of like Crocket from Miami Vice . . . but older and without a Ferrari

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    I find many things objectionable on the internet
    I suppose if you know what you are looking for...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR
    Animal cruelty is still a serious crime in most American States and this ruling has no effect on that.
    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat
    True, it is the distribution of the depiction of acts of cruelty that is not criminalised.
    so, how do you make a video of animal cruelty without cruelty to animals?

    that must mean all the videos are made up in Hollywood by Creative Artists Inc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Don't be fooled by the BBC headline. The ruling does not overturn animal cruelty laws. It over turns the law that disallows videos of animal cruelty. As with a lot of other distasteful things found on the internet, the first amendment states folks have the right to show them without censorship. I find many things objectionable on the internet but agree with the decision. Having governments decide what can and cannot be expressed and where will it stop. We can see where government defined censorship and freedom of expression laws lead as observed here in Thailand.

    "The Supreme Court struck down a federal law Tuesday aimed at banning videos that show graphic violence against animals, saying it violates the right to free speech. "
    Agree.

    Headline is misleading ( badly written too) and the issue is free speech, not animal cruelty, which is illegal in all 50 states to varying degrees.

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    Nice thread till the stalker kw gets hold.

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