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    Teachers leave boy, 5, stranded in tree

    Teachers leave boy, 5, stranded in tree because of health and safety (then report passer-by who helped him down to police)
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    Last updated at 7:27 PM on 24th March 2010

    A boy of five was left stranded in a tree at school because of a bizarre health and safety policy - which banned teachers from helping him down. The mischievous pupil climbed the 20ft tree at the end of morning break and refused to come down. But instead of helping him, staff followed guidelines and retreated inside the school building to ‘observe from a distance’ so the child would not get ‘distracted and fall’.

    The boy was only rescued after 45 minutes in the tree when passer-by Kim Barrett, 38, noticed the child and helped him down herself. But instead of being thanked for her actions by the head teacher of the Manor School in Melksham, Wiltshire, she was reported to the police for trespassing.

    Miss Barrett, who lives in Melksham with her six-year-old daughter who attends a different school, said she is ‘surprised’ and ‘shocked’ by the school's policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter000 View Post
    But instead of being thanked for her actions by the head teacher of the Manor School in Melksham, Wiltshire, she was reported to the police for trespassing.
    what!!! my country is going tit's up

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    To have the specific written policy about the procedure to follow when a child climbs a tree shows the in depth thinking of some soot (probably a ex janitor) on a payroll in the system. Knowing this incident is covered (wonder if tree height is mentioned) it would be a good read to see the orders for various other activities (group or solo) the little munchkins come up with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WujouMao View Post
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    But instead of being thanked for her actions by the head teacher of the Manor School in Melksham, Wiltshire, she was reported to the police for trespassing.
    what!!! my country is going tit's up
    I think it's catching , pandemic proportions in Aus!

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    It's a bit ironic this happens at a school. Schools teach young children to follow the rules so they can grow up to become good cube workers and tax payers.

    It's one thing this rule is in place but what really irks me is that these moronic teachers follow them like slaves. This is how bad things happen. This is how the Nazis came into power. I would have just gotten the boy down, but I assume if I had been working there I'd have been fired long before that...

    And yeah the UK seems to go the way of the USA only worse. In the USA there are many stupid rules like that, mostly stemming from lawsuits and liability concerns. But there's also many unwritten freedoms. In Europe we get the stupid rules, but without those freedoms.

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    As much as I miss the old country, I'm sure glad I left when I did (38 years). a couple years before I did, myself and a couple other blokes jumped into the river Clyde to save a man from what turned out to be a sucide attempt, shit if we did that today it would have off to the gallows for us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikster
    In the USA there are many stupid rules like that, mostly stemming from lawsuits and liability concerns.
    While my son was going to Uni. in Calfornia he worked at a big department store as a security officer, uniform and all, except they were not allowed to apprehend thieves, in fact his boss was fired (after 20+ years with company) for following a thieve stealing a TV out to the parking lot so he could get his car license number.
    that was at Target if anybody needs a new TV!

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    Next step would be to chop down all the trees in school grounds....no chance of the kids getting distracted and falling then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter000 View Post
    Next step would be to chop down all the trees in school grounds....no chance of the kids getting distracted and falling then.
    well they cut tress down to stop dogging so why not cut the trees down to stop kids climbing

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    Quote Originally Posted by WujouMao View Post
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    Next step would be to chop down all the trees in school grounds....no chance of the kids getting distracted and falling then.
    well they cut tress down to stop dogging so why not cut the trees down to stop kids climbing
    Excellent point!

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    With these kinds of stories, particularly from the Daily Mail, I always have the sneaking suspicion that there's more to them than initially meets the eye and that what hasn't been said is more important than what has been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WujouMao
    what!!! my country is going tit's up


    Quote Originally Posted by Thaiguy
    I think it's catching , pandemic proportions in Aus!

    We're all in that the club. USA, land of the fracked home of the taxed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WujouMao View Post
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    Next step would be to chop down all the trees in school grounds....no chance of the kids getting distracted and falling then.
    well they cut tress down to stop dogging so why not cut the trees down to stop kids climbing
    if they prevent dogging, there will be no Kids anymore, so that safes at least the trees in the school grounds

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    Proud to be British?

    Turning into a bunch of subservient pussies.

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    Melksham The Manor CofE VC Primary School

    Head Teacher
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    The Manor Church of England Primary School

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    Ms Barrett, who has a six-year-old at a different school, was passing by and helped him down then walked him over to the school.
    The associate head teacher ‘didn’t appear at all concerned and was actually very patronising, patting me on the arm and asking me “What do you expect me to do, exactly, dear?”,’ she said. The school said she ‘approached the school in an inappropriate way’ and sent her a letter stating they had reported her to police. The next day, a PCSO visited to say she had tresp[at]assed. Head teacher Beverley Martin said: ‘We cannot assume that people who enter the school grounds without permission have innocent intentions.’
    Kim Barrett reported to police by teachesr at Manor School in Melksham, Wiltshire. | Metro.co.uk

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    the teacher is just following procedure, ticking boxes and protecting her back.

    these are the skills necessary these days to survive in any workplace in the uk, with box ticking being the most important.

    common sense doesnt come into it, the time wasted by reporting this to the police and then their necessary follow up involving another set of stipulated procedures, box ticking and back protecting just go to make life so difficult.

    leave one box unticked, one procedure not fully carried out and then parents and the lawyers will have a field day and pay day when the whole matter ends up in court and someone is found that they can blame the whole shebang on.

    common sense dictates that there has to be a backlash against all this sometime, but common sense seems to have flown out the window these days.

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    Got to admit I would have left the little brat up in the tree, but to report someone for trespassing is a bit over the top.

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    And you people complain about America being the worlds policeman?? what the hell would happen in Europe if another Hitler appeared, the wimps that are being bred today would just roll over and beg for forgiveness for being bad

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    Only after the new hitler had successfully sued the british govt for likening him to the old hitler would the brits roll over.

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    Only after the new hitler had successfully sued the british govt for likening him to the old hitler would the brits roll over.
    funny you should say that ..................


    Advert with dog dressed as Hitler 'not offensive', rules watchdog

    An advert which showed a white puppy with an ''Adolf Hitler'' style moustache was not offensive, a watchdog has said.


    Published: 10:40PM GMT 24 Mar 2010

    Advert with dog dressed as Hitler 'not offensive', rules watchdog - Telegraph

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter000
    well they cut tress down to stop dogging so why not cut the trees down to stop kids climbing

    Nah shoot the kids or better still the Teachers,

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    It would appear from further enquiries, the kid was dressed as Hitler. He climbed the tree to escape from a hoard of facist hating Jews dressed as teachers!

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    Hate to get off of Hitler discussions; so productive, but:

    In the US many years ago, when I was in the Navy, a fellow officer on my submarine was late for formation. He had stopped to pull an unconcious man from a burning car. He received burns on his hands in the process. He was then sued by the injured man for complications to his back injury which may have been made worse by improper handling while getting him out of the burning vehicle. The injured guy said he had no choice; his insurance company would not pay off unless he sued.

    Later that state passed a "Good Samaritan Law", which many other US states have done since. These laws hold blameless any non-medically trained individual that provides immediate assistance in an emergency. If you are a doctor or nurse you should just drive by.

    It is a sick world where such laws are necessary.

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