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    U.S. at war with Mexico? they should be.

    US workers slaughtered in Mexico

    CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico - The two families climbed into white SUVs and almost simultaneously left the children's birthday party put on by the US consulate.
    One headed deeper into one of the world's most dangerous cities, the other toward a bridge to El Paso, one of America's safest.
    Neither made it.
    Gunmen chased down the two vehicles and opened fire in attacks that raised the chilling prospect that Mexico's cartels have dropped any reservations about killing American officials in their battle for the multibillion-dollar US drug market.
    Three adults with connections to the US consulate were killed, and two children were wounded.
    Mexico said US intelligence pointed toward the Aztecas street gang, which is aligned with the murderous Juarez drug cartel. Authorities raised the possibility that only one of the families was targeted, while the other was chased because they both drove white SUVs. They offered no details of this theory.
    Authorities in both countries said they don't know yet why the families were attacked.

    "There is a concern at the possibility of attacks specifically aimed at diplomats stationed in the country, and that would be very serious," Ciudad Juarez Mayor Jose Reyes told a local radio station.
    The FBI joined the investigation Monday, working with US State Department agents and Mexican authorities.
    Consulate spokesman Silvio Gonzalez said the party Saturday was thrown by the US diplomatic mission in Ciudad Juarez. Were it not for that connection, the attacks would hardly have been remarkable in a city where 2,601 people were killed in drug violence last year.
    After the slayings, the US Embassy warned Americans to "delay unnecessary travel to parts of Durango, Coahuila and Chihuahua states."
    Authorities would not say where the birthday party was held, but said it was not at the consulate. As the party wound down, the two families left separately.
    Arthur H. Redelfs, an American who works as a jail guard in El Paso, was at the wheel of his white Toyota RAV4, driving along the broad riverside avenue leading to the Santa Fe Bridge across the border. His wife, Lesley A. Enriquez, a consulate employee who was four months pregnant, was at his side. Their baby girl was strapped into a car seat in back.
    A Suburban fell in behind them, and Redelfs gunned the engine. They raced for a half-mile, coming within sight of downtown El Paso before Redelfs paused at the last intersection before the bridge. It was enough of an opening for the gunmen to slam into the driver's-side hood, then open fire.
    Enriquez was killed by a single bullet in the head; her husband by two shots in the neck and arm. Their baby was unhurt, left wailing in the back seat.
    Meanwhile, Jorge Alberto Salcido Ceniceros, a Mexican citizen who works at a factory south of the border, left the party with his two children, ages 4 and 7, in his white Honda Pilot. His wife, a Mexican citizen who works at the consulate, was not with them. They headed in the opposite direction, into Ciudad Juarez, where they lived.
    Salcido speeded up when a car gave chase, racing down an avenue for 600 yards before the gunmen caught up with him. He was killed, and both children were wounded in a hail of bullets from an assault rifle.
    "As to whether this was a particular incident directed at US diplomats, I think we're not prepared to draw that conclusion yet," State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said in Washington.
    Enriquez's job involved aiding US citizens, Crowley said. It was not immediately clear what kind of job Salcido's wife held at the consulate.
    While several US citizens have been killed in the drug war - most of them people with family ties to Mexico - it is rare for American government employees to be targeted.
    The last high-profile slaying of a US official in Mexico was the 1985 murder of Drug Enforcement Administration agent Enrique "Kiki" Camarena by Mexican drug traffickers. In 2008, attackers opened fire and threw a grenade at the US consulate in the northern city of Monterrey, but the grenade didn't explode and nobody was hurt.
    The violence in Ciudad Juarez had been creeping closer to the US consulate before the latest attack, and on Friday the consulate declared a bar just down the block off-limits for security reasons.
    The mayor speculated that the gunmen in Saturday's attack could have targeted one family and followed the other because it was in a similar car.
    "One thing that could be significant is that the two SUVs were similar," he said. "The same type of vehicle, the same color, leaving the same party."
    The mayor said Salcido may have worked previously as a police officer, but prosecutors said they could not confirm that. Police have been targeted in the drug violence that has made Ciudad Juarez one of the deadliest cities in the world.
    The US consulate in Ciudad Juarez, shut for a Mexican holiday on Monday, will remain closed Tuesday as "a way for the community to mourn the loss," Gonzalez said.
    It was the second US border consulate closed because of violence in the past month. The consulate in Reynosa, across from McAllen, Texas, was closed for several days in late February because of gun battles.
    The State Department said it would offer housing allowances to employees at six US consulates, including the one in Ciudad Juarez, who decide to send family members to safer areas. Crowley said about 100 dependents are eligible in Ciudad Juarez alone.
    Crowley said that decision - based on the general level of violence rather than a specific threat - was made last week but wasn't announced until after the shootings.
    The attacks came during a particularly bloody weekend in Mexico, with nearly 50 people killed in apparent gang violence. Nine people were killed in a gang shootout early Sunday in the Pacific resort city of Acapulco, where spring break was getting into gear.
    Mexican marines and Navy personnel announced Monday they had launched a raid against an operations base run by the Zeta drug gang near Monterrey. A convoy of fleeing vehicles opened fire on a Marine helicopter following them, officials said. The Marines chased them down, some on foot, and killed eight suspects.
    Elsewhere in Chihuahua state on Monday, running gun battles in the tourist town of Creel left seven people dead and two seriously wounded, while farther south prosecutors reported the bodies of five men were found on the side of a highway.
    The bodies bore signs of torture and multiple gunshot wounds. They were found beneath an SUV that was apparently used to crush them.
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    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news...ectid=10632360

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    First we round up every mexican living here illegally that we can find, ship them over the border and close the border using the U.S. army, next ban all travel to that shit hole of a country then maybe we will see the mexican government take serious action against the drug cartels

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnwadrick View Post
    First we round up every mexican living here illegally that we can find, ship them over the border and close the border using the U.S. army, next ban all travel to that shit hole of a country then maybe we will see the mexican government take serious action against the drug cartels
    My Lord, I have a cunning plan...

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    Mexican marines and Navy personnel announced Monday they had launched a raid against an operations base run by the Zeta drug gang near Monterrey. A convoyof fleeing vehicles opened fire on a Marine helicopter following them, officials said. The Marines chased them down, some on foot, and killed eight suspects.
    Regardless of political concerns or consequences. I'd be angry as hell if I was American.

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    The 'drugs' naturally follow their respective markets..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dug
    I'd be angry as hell if I was American.
    God, so would I...

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    Give Mexico 30 days to stop all illegal migration into the USA and bomb the crap out of them if they don't. The problem is the US Government actually wants cheap Mexican labor, in a phony democracy the corporations always come first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR
    Give Mexico 30 days to stop all illegal migration into the USA and bomb the crap out of them if they don't. The problem is the US Government actually wants cheap Mexican labor, in a phony democracy the corporations always come first.
    Got to agree with this dude,
    Fuck the fence, Mine the border, bring the dudes home from Iraq and patrol the border against insurgency from abroad, North, South, East and West.
    Be good for USA and be good for Mexico as then the guns from USA would not be getting there and then they would see where they are actually coming in from.
    Also would ease the War on Drugs and War on Terrorists in one sweep of the broom.

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    ^Thats a good plan

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    Sad for me. I lived in Mexico half of my adult life. Nothing but good memories. I doubt either government could do much. This is the result of the war on drugs, a miserable failure.

    80% of Los Angeles is Mexican, from freshly arrived to white-collar businessmen and professionals. Chicago, Florida, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, as we know, has huge populations. I assume all of them have lots of family back home.

    As long as they have voting rights there's little to be made public about strong-arming the boarder. It would be a politician's nightmare to trade votes for riots. Mexicans are natural born revolutionaries.

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    The Times report :

    US withdraws Mexico consular families in wake of staff killings by drug cartels

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7063198.ece

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    Wasn't it proposition 16 that failed miserably in California? Would have taken education and other rights from Mexicans? Even a majority of Anglos voted against it. Mexicans are heavily embedded. Talk tuff if it makes you feel better, but it's all for not cause they'll just keep on doing what they do.

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    Amazing isn't it that the US gives other countries so much shhit about not being able to control their borders, yet their own seems to be one of the most porous in the world and with the resources they have at their disposal makes it even more laughable when they critisize others.

    As to blaming the Mexico for all the drugs coming into the US, they are only feeding a market, if the US wasn't a country full of drug users then the trafficking would stop.

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    ^ True.

    Mexico seems to be descending in a semi Narco state. Lot of violence in recent years.

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    ^ Seems to be my ass, it is...

    I used to go to Mexico on occasions and would cross the border at Laredo... That was until 35+ Americans went missing after crossing the border there... Between Mexas & Mexifornia, there are 75+ open cases of Americans simply disappearing once they crossed the border into Mexico...

    Mexico recently decriminalized the use of all recreational drugs so they could focus on bringing down the narco trafficante kingpins... Doesn't seem to be working too well...
    Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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    U.S. at war with Mexico? they should be.



    OIL

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    Not really. Their oil is a rock-shelved deposit. The most expensive to extract. It will probably be the world's last reserve to be depleted.

    Yes, you can blame the US for having so many addicts. But you can't blame a compass for pointing North. And a rapist on trial can't blame his irresponsible dick. Only Mexico can solve Mexico's problems. It's not rocket surgery.

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    Me and a mate of mine stayed in El paso for a couple of nights as part of a round the world trip, in 1998.Rather a quiet place we thought.
    We crossed the bridge into juarez just to say we had been to Mexico.
    Bit of a dump.
    The Rio grande was nothing like it was when John Wayne used to drive his herds across it, very dry.
    Looks like the hey days of the Juarez dentists are well and truly f*cked.

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