View Poll Results: Do you treat your Asian wife/girlfriend as a slave?

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  • No, this is an outrage

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  • Quite often I will sexually abuse her

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    South Asian 'slave brides' causing concern in UK

    South Asian 'slave brides' causing concern in UK


    By Rahila Bano
    BBC Asian Network



    "Even an animal isn't treated in this way"

    Hundreds of women who came to the UK from South Asia to marry say they have been treated as domestic slaves by their in-laws, the BBC has learned.

    More than 500 who applied for residence in 2008-09 after their marriages broke down were deported because they could not prove any abuse had taken place.

    Police and charities are concerned the incidents are not reported because of family pressure and fear of reprisals.

    The UK Border Agency said measures were in place to try to prevent such abuse.

    'Bloodied nose'

    The women complaining of being treated as slaves by their families come from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.

    One woman in her 20s says she was imprisoned by her mother-in-law for three years at their house in the north of England. She does not want to be named.

    She has now started to come to terms with her ordeal, a year after her mother-in-law was prosecuted, but she says she still lives with the fear inside her.

    "One day my mother-in-law beat me up really badly," she says.

    "There was a lot of blood coming out of my mouth and nose - I couldn't tell anyone, call anyone or go anywhere.

    "I used to get up at dawn and clean the whole house, scrub the floors, clean the windows, do the washing, cook. In between I'd have to sew."

    She tried to kill herself twice. Eventually she managed to escape after her mother-in-law left her bedroom door unlocked.

    "Staying inside all the time, not being allowed to watch TV or go out... I thought I'd rather be dead than live like this."

    Marai Larasi says there is a lack of services for women

    Research by Imkaan, the national charity for Black and Asian victims of domestic violence, shows how difficult it is for other Asian women to report abuse. It surveyed 124 women who use Asian refuges across the country.

    "A woman may not speak English, may not be aware of what's available in terms of services, she may be in a situation where everywhere she goes her abuser or a family member - who may be colluding in the abuse - is actually going with her," says Imkaan director Marai Larasi.

    "So her opportunity to disclose the abuse is compromised. There's also a real lack of services for women in this position."

    There are concerns that this lack of reporting is leading many abused women from South Asia to eventually be deported when their marriages break down and they apply to stay in the UK.

    DOMESTIC VIOLENCE LEAVE TO REMAIN APPLICATIONS 2008/9
    Pakistani: 240
    Bangladeshi: 100
    Indian: 100

    Source: Home Office

    Home Office rules state that any foreign national whose marriage breaks up within two years because of domestic violence can apply for indefinite leave to remain, but they must have reported the incident at the time to a person in authority - such as a GP or police officer.

    Figures released by the Home Office show that more than half the number of South Asian brides who say they have been victims of domestic abuse in the UK have been deported in the last two years because they could not prove abuse had taken place.

    Out of 980 applications for leave to remain in the UK in 2008 and 2009, only 440 women were allowed to stay.

    In a statement, the UK Border Agency said: "We take our role in providing protection to women very seriously. We already have a number of measures in place to try and provide more directed support such as specific instructions, assessment of the quality of decisions and training for case workers."

    After the highly-publicised case of Naseebah Bibi last year, Lancashire Police say they believe the problem is widespread in some communities.

    Bibi was jailed for treating her three daughters-in-law as slaves at their home in Blackburn.

    "The women are facing pressure, not only from immediate family but also their extended family abroad who may be relying on the people in this country to finance them to help improve their lives," says Lancashire Police's Det Con Dave Souch, who led the Naseebah Bibi inquiry.

    His colleague Sgt John Rigby described it as the "Cinderella syndrome".
    He adds: "The problem with slave labour, as it's been tagged, is probably far bigger than what we may expect - we can only go on the cases that are brought to our attention.

    Sgt John Rigby says the problem is widespread

    "But we know from the partner agencies we work alongside - like the Women's Aid Forums - who can tell you it's widespread."

    Another woman, also in her 20s, was forced to flee her in-laws with her child. She was also too scared to reveal her identity.

    She explained: "If I made tea, it was for her or someone else. I didn't have permission to drink tea with them because in the 15-20 minutes it would take, housework would not get done.

    "She would swear at my family, and accuse me of taking things. If any money or jewellery had been misplaced I would get the blame."

    She, too, was not allowed to speak to anyone outside of the family and was not allowed to go out by herself.

    "Even a servant is allowed to have a break, but I was used like a machine," she recalls.

    "The worst thing about it was that my husband wasn't there for me. I'd have done everything for him without complaining - but he didn't care about me or his baby."
    She managed to escape after a year-and-a-half. She was rescued by her midwife, who alerted the authorities.

    'Small proportion'

    Parveen Javaid, domestic violence co-ordinator at Manchester-based Pakistani Resource Centre, said: "On average we deal with 20 to 30 cases a month where we give advice and support to women who are victims of mothers-in-law.

    "The majority of cases I deal with are women who've been kept as slaves - abuse within the house."

    To put this into context, just over 37,000 women have come to the UK on spousal visas in the last five years and while domestic violence workers say most of these marriages are genuine and successful, a small proportion of those marriages do fail.

    What is clear is that this is still a hidden problem within South Asian communities.

    It will remain so, unless women are encouraged to come forward and report it to the authorities.


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    reading between the lines I don't see these as interracial marriages .....................

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    ^Nope, they seem to be normal Asian marriages but sadly interfering white middle class dogooders think it is all wrong.

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    ^^they are not, pakis and Indians mainly who have collected a huge dowry from some poor skags family back there to get them married to someone living in the UK in the hope their whole families lives will greatly improve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    sadly interfering white middle class dogooders
    not so sad , when in Rome ........................

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    ^It seems the UK wants to take away their culture

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    not all change is bad ................

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    Suppose now is not the best time to bring up the subject of Asia, time of the month, periods and sheds

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    A woman may not speak English, may not be aware of what's available in terms of services,
    Maybe they should learn to speaky the lingo of the country they live in? Just an idea like, may even catch on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Suppose now is not the best time to bring up the subject of Asia, time of the month, periods and sheds



    static.guim.co.uk

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    Victims of mother in laws
    Reminds me of something Les Dawson said

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    A woman may not speak English, may not be aware of what's available in terms of services,
    Maybe they should learn to speaky the lingo of the country they live in? Just an idea like, may even catch on.
    Implement that in Thailand and one way to get rid of the farang scum in Pattaya i guess.

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    good luck with that one , the great white banana believes all should speak english , the Queens not that Microsoft shite

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    Manchester-based Pakistani Resource Centre
    Check the place out.



    No shit.

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    One woman in her 20s says she was imprisoned by her mother-in-law for three years [...]
    Nothing new here: in cultures which prescribe women inslavement, the most sadistic master is not the husband but the mother-in-law. One could say that such male chauvinist societies are not based on male supremacy, but rather on mother supremacy as the only educator of her male sons and as the most wicked master of her daughters-in-law.

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    Pretty dumb poll, as this has nothing to do with any TD posters (except possibly Ghandi). It is a sad story about South-West Asians bringing their fucked up culture to the UK, and enslaving or torturing their own women. Nothing to do with the UK really, other than the fact the UK was stupid enough to let them all in in the first place.

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    A good mate of mine (Indian) is under pressure to get married and have kids, he's planning on importing a wife and leaving her with his mother while he goes out and shags everything he can and get pissed up every night.

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    ^ But you have to admit, just because he is Indian does not mean he has to be stupid..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    ^It seems the UK wants to take away their culture



    No , i don't see that as culture . These are control freaks . Sadistic mother fukers .

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    a human being taken under the guise of marriage ( maybe prince charles did this with diana) . we also have mental torture and a hint of slavery , a living nightmare . It's always mostly the women who have to suffer and why is this . It happens in our own culture or it did happen where the guy goes out on a sarurday night and comes home to beat the shit out of his lady. It's violence , mental and physical . What is the reason for this ?Some men would not even do this to their enemies . Men have power and power can be evil . Power is the only outlet for evil to flourish . Like some people when they get into a car ,,,how do they behave ,,,,road-rage etc. etc. then they get out of the car,, walk into the office and be as nice as pie to complete strangers . And why would a priest want to fuk the livin daylights out of a child ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid
    It happens in our own culture or it did happen where the guy goes out on a saturday night and comes home to beat the shit out of his lady. It's violence , mental and physical . What is the reason for this ?
    well,imagine the poor man tried to seduce the waitress and was rejected, he has to vent his rage on someone when he's back home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jizzybloke View Post
    A good mate of mine (Indian) is under pressure to get married and have kids, he's planning on importing a wife and leaving her with his mother while he goes out and shags everything he can and get pissed up every night.
    Have a friend who is doing just that. He was 36, unmarried, and a Muslim. Had an obsession with white girls and almost married one but she refused to convert to Islam. He went to visit his relatives in Bangladesh and came back with a wife. He was pretty much held hostage until he agreed to marry this girl. He came to an understanding with his mom that he would have children and take care of his family and everyone would look the other way as long as he kept his other activities on the down low.

    The whole pressure to marry is ridiculous. Some people aren't meant for marriage. At least my kids won't have to worry because I've been kicked out of the caste for marrying a Thai.


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    From ASEAN BROADCAST NETWORK

    "Even an animal isn't treated in this way"

    Hundreds of men who came to Southeast Asia from the UK to find peace in a harmonious relationship say that they have been treated as slaves and living-ATM's by women and their in-laws, and psychologically raped by the British government, the ASEAN Network has learned.

    More than 500 who applied for Asian visas in 2008-09 after their marriages broke down and their bank accounts were wiped out were given an opportunity for happiness because the living conditions in the west are well documented and affirmed.

    Health and veterans organizations are concerned that incidents are not reported because western society does not recognize complaints by males.

    The UK NOW (National Organization of Wenches) said measures were being put in place to prevent further male flight to try to preserve the monetary base for women and to atone for historical male abuses, such as dying in defense of freedom and country, and the like.

    'Bloodied nose'

    The men complaining of being treated as trash by their respective governments come from the UK, Germany, and the US.

    One man in his 20s says he was stripped of his wartime medals by his wife in a divorce proceeding, as the judge ruled that his wife loved and nurtured him during a portion of his time of service, and thus was the sole reason he earned the rewards. The court also gave the wife his 5-generation home in Breitling, England, in payment for her three months of loyal dedication to her husband. He does not want to be named as he is afraid British authorities will attempt to take the 20 quid of his estate that they awarded him.

    He has now started to come to terms with his ordeal, a year after relocating to Asia and realizing that women really can be loving and caring creatures, but he still shivers each time he sees a Brit FemNazi on the streets.

    He tried to kill himself twice. But he ultimately decided to persevere. Eventually he managed to escape the reigns of the British courts after he faked his death and escaped the prison of servitude under the cloak of darkness.

    "Staying enslave all this time, not being allowed to enjoy the fruit of my labors ... I thought I'd rather be dead than live like this, until I came to Asia."

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid View Post
    a human being taken under the guise of marriage ( maybe prince charles did this with diana) . we also have mental torture and a hint of slavery , a living nightmare . It's always mostly the women who have to suffer and why is this . It happens in our own culture or it did happen where the guy goes out on a sarurday night and comes home to beat the shit out of his lady. It's violence , mental and physical . What is the reason for this ?Some men would not even do this to their enemies . Men have power and power can be evil . Power is the only outlet for evil to flourish . Like some people when they get into a car ,,,how do they behave ,,,,road-rage etc. etc. then they get out of the car,, walk into the office and be as nice as pie to complete strangers . And why would a priest want to fuk the livin daylights out of a child ?
    ye and then there is the mother in-law. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid
    ye and then there is the mother in-law. .
    I had one of those .. I do not recommend .........

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