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    No job unless you're Polish U.K.

    No job unless you're Polish: Biggest Asda meat supplier excludes English speakers as 'all instructions are in Polish'
    By NICK CRAVEN
    Last updated at 11:37 PM on 13th March 2010
    British workers have been turned away from jobs in a local factory – for not speaking Polish.
    Cooked meat manufacturer Forza AW effectively barred anyone but Poles for applying for jobs on its production line in East Anglia by insisting all staff speak the language fluently.
    The company claimed it was necessary as all health and safety training was conducted in Polish.
    But Forza – a major supplier of Asda supermarkets – was last night accused of anti-British discrimination because of the adverts, which came after an official report detailed how unscrupulous employers prefer to hire migrants because they are cheap and less inclined to answer back.
    MAIL ON SUNDAY COMMENT: Discrimination - An even-handed response at last
    Forza’s insistence on Polish speakers may be illegal, as a spokesman for the Government Equalities Office said last night: ‘Under the 1976 Race Relations Act, unless there is a genuine need for a worker to speak a particular language it is against the law to require that they should do so as a condition of employing them.’
    'I couldn't believe it - are we in England or in Poland?'
    Forza’s advertisement came as the Equality and Human Rights Commission’s report condemned the ‘mistreatment and exploitation’ of foreign workers, who are often too afraid to raise concerns for fear of being sacked.
    The commission said it uncovered ‘widespread evidence’ of physical and verbal abuse and lack of proper health and safety protection, while workers often have little knowledge of their rights.
    It is also reported that British workers had spoken of difficulty in registering with employment agencies that supply mainly East European workers.
    Shadow Immigration Minister Damian Green said the advert exposed the hollowness of Gordon Brown’s pledge to create ‘British jobs for British workers’.
    He added: ‘He must regret ever saying that because it has proved a cruel deception for millions of the unemployed.’
    Forza’s advert was sent out via email by East Anglia-based employment agency OSR Recruitment earlier this month.
    Headed ‘Immediate factory work available!!!!’ it continued: ‘If you are available or have any friends available, work is starting tomorrow for induction training.
    ‘Ongoing factory work (meat production) for 4-5 months, shifts are 7am-5pm or 9am-7pm.
    ‘Transport provided. Applicants must speak Polish. Please call asap!!!!!!’
    The advert was signed Katrina Massingham, the company’s ‘industrial team leader’ and it was dispatched to hundreds of potential applicants on the firm’s books.
    One job seeker, who contacted The Mail on Sunday after receiving the email, said: ‘I couldn’t believe it when I first read it – are we in England or Poland, for goodness sake?
    'It was weird. I thought it must be a mistake'
    ‘If it was a job where you were flying back and forth to Warsaw, I could understand it, but you wouldn’t think language ability would be high on the list of requirements for someone packing sausages all day long.’
    A reporter listened in as the 31-year-old man called OSR to ask about the jobs last Tuesday.
    The first question he was asked was: ‘Are you Polish?’ When he said no, but could speak the language ‘a little’, he was told: ‘Actually, you have to be fluent because the health and safety training is all done in Polish.’
    By Friday, however, after The Mail on Sunday rang again several times and got the same response, the company appeared to have second thoughts about the wisdom of the advert.
    An OSR employee gave a different version to a Polish-speaking reporter saying: ‘Actually, you don’t have to be Polish, but it helps.’
    When another reporter posed as an English applicant, Ms Massingham told him that all the jobs had been filled but that the language requirement was ‘not too important now’.
    She added: ‘For some reason the training was in Polish but we’re trying to get them to change it, because it’s a bit silly, really’.
    Earlier, OSR also posted the advert in Polish in several of the Eastern European shops in East Anglia.
    In one, the manageress took the ad over the phone, and – when asked to translate it from English – was surprised to hear the line about needing to speak Polish.
    ‘It was weird, and I assumed it was a mistake,’ she said. ‘After all, we’re in England. So I translated that part as “English not necessary” instead. There have been quite a few people following up the advert since it went up.’


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    fantastic

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    Imagine that company is regretting that particular ad.

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    presumably that is discrimination?

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    Hey, they can get away with it, but if the roles were reversed it would be a different story.

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    ^Too true.

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    More bollocks from the Mail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles
    Hey, they can get away with it, but if the roles were reversed it would be a different story.
    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton
    ^Too true.
    How are they getting away with it?

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    So all the fuss is about one pikey with 5 kids actually decided he wanted to work, or more than likely just saw the ad and thought would create and bit of controvery and add it to his ever growing list of reasons why he can't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat
    How are they getting away with it?
    Because they got all the positions filled, no legal action will be taken, and it will all be simply brushed away. Had it been the other way around, you would have had human rights groups etc suing all involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat
    How are they getting away with it?
    Because they got all the positions filled, no legal action will be taken, and it will all be simply brushed away. Had it been the other way around, you would have had human rights groups etc suing all involved.
    I personally have no issue with the Poles, met some great one when living in Northwich last year, they all want to work and graft plus their women are a lot easier on the eye than their British counterparts, all this article will be is some chav just making another excuse for why he can't work for a job he would have had no intention of doing anyway.

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    British dole for British workers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    More bollocks from the Mail.
    Well, the Mail reported it, just because it was printed in that particular paper does not automatically mean it's bollocks. It's a good thing that not everyone is as easily fooled by the government spin doctors as you seem to be (from reading your posts on TD).

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy
    I personally have no issue with the Poles, met some great one when living in Northwich last year, they all want to work and graft plus their women are a lot easier on the eye than their British counterparts, all this article will be is some chav just making another excuse for why he can't work for a job he would have had no intention of doing anyway.
    It's not a case of having issues with the Poles, if you can't see a bigger picture than that, what can be said?

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    I laughed at the story of the English guy that immigrated to Poland, got a job as a bus driver married a Polish woman. He said it was probably the best thing he ever did.

    Hmmn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy
    I personally have no issue with the Poles, met some great one when living in Northwich last year, they all want to work and graft plus their women are a lot easier on the eye than their British counterparts, all this article will be is some chav just making another excuse for why he can't work for a job he would have had no intention of doing anyway.
    It's not a case of having issues with the Poles, if you can't see a bigger picture than that, what can be said?
    I can see the bigger picture, we are talking about a meat factory advertising for jobs in Polish as they know full well lazy British chavs won't take the jobs and they are just saving themselves some time, effort and money by not bothering to print pointless advertsiements in English, now obviously in PC world they have no doubt broken a few pathetic laws in doing this and it gets blown out of all proportion in the press. We are not talking about a law firm advertsing for graduates here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy
    we are talking about a meat factory advertising for jobs in Polish as they know full well lazy British chavs won't take the jobs and they are just saving themselves some time, effort and money by not bothering to print pointless advertsiements in English,
    Try reading the OP again, you obviously had trouble understanding what you actually read.



    Quote Originally Posted by crippen
    British workers have been turned away from jobs in a local factory – for not speaking Polish.
    Quote Originally Posted by crippen
    all health and safety training was conducted in Polish.
    Quote Originally Posted by crippen
    Applicants must speak Polish.
    Quote Originally Posted by crippen
    The first question he was asked was: ‘Are you Polish?’ When he said no, but could speak the language ‘a little’, he was told: ‘Actually, you have to be fluent because the health and safety training is all done in Polish.’

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    have meet a Pom Welder in Oz, he says his last Boss will only Employ Polish, not English workers,

    and this is happening in Oz now. Indon. and Flippers are favored over Australian, keeps the wages down and more easy to control because there on a VISA!! not like a true Oz National

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    Let's fly the flag as the Kingdom is being invaded . . . honest to goodness British citizens are being discriminated against on their own soil and no-one is doing anything about it.

    Horrendous, Shocking, Despicable . . . plus Poles eat little blond, blue-eyed British babies

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    We are so Soft, Labour need to grow a set of testicles, Why keep the pound? Whats that stating to Europe. Bugger all if your immigration policys are anything to go by.

    British Jobs for British Workers, yer right.

    Thailand have got the correct idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minty4Thai
    Why keep the pound? Whats that stating to Europe.
    Erm, I fart in your general direction...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minty4Thai
    Thailand have got the correct idea
    Yeah, right...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mingmong
    not like a true Oz National
    I thought there were quite a few problems employing Aboriginals?

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    As the Daily Mail beefs up its bullshit campaign before the election.

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    ^^Teach them to speak Polish then send them off to the UK. A win, win for all.

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