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    Pope Now Directly Linked to Pedophile Cover-Ups

    Pope under fire for transfer, letter on sex abuse

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100312/...u_church_abuse




    Reuters – Archbishop Robert Zollitsch, head of Germany's bishops conference, is seen before the beginning of …



    By NICOLE WINFIELD, Associated Press Writer Nicole Winfield, Associated Press Writer – Fri Mar 12, 6:24 pm ET
    VATICAN CITY – Germany's sex abuse scandal has now reached Pope Benedict XVI: His former archdiocese acknowledged it transferred a suspected pedophile priest while Benedict was in charge and



    criticism is mounting over a 2001 Vatican directive he penned instructing bishops to keep abuse cases secret.



    The revelations have put the spotlight on Benedict's handling of abuse claims both when he was archbishop of Munich from 1977-1982 and then the prefect of the Vatican office that deals with such crimes — a position he held until his 2005 election as pope.
    Benedict got a firsthand readout of the scope of the scandal Friday in his native land from the head of the German Bishop's Conference, Archbishop Robert Zollitsch, who reported that the pontiff had expressed "great dismay and deep shock" over the scandal, but encouraged bishops to continue searching for the truth.
    Hours later, the Munich archdiocese admitted that it had allowed a priest suspected of having abused a child to return to pastoral work in the 1980s, while Benedict was archbishop. It stressed that the former Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger didn't know about the transfer and that it had been decided by a lower-ranking official.
    The archdiocese said there were no accusations against the chaplain, identified only as H., during his 1980-1982 spell in Munich, where he underwent therapy for suspected "sexual relations with boys." But he then moved to nearby Grafing, where he was suspended in early 1985 following new accusations of sexual abuse. The following year, he was convicted of sexually abusing minors.


    The Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, issued a statement late Friday noting that the Munich vicar-general who approved the priest's transfer had taken "full responsibility" for the decision, seeking to remove any question about the pontiff's potential responsibility as archbishop at the time.


    Victims advocates weren't persuaded.
    "We find it extraordinarily hard to believe that Ratzinger didn't reassign the predator, or know about the reassignment," said Barbara Blaine, president and founder of SNAP, Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests.


    The pope, meanwhile, continues to be under fire for a 2001 Vatican letter he sent to all bishops advising them that all cases of sexual abuse of minors must be forwarded to his then-office, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, and that the cases were to be subject to pontifical secret.


    Germany's justice minister, Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger, has cited the document as evidence that the Vatican created a "wall of silence" around abuse cases that prevented prosecution. Irish bishops have said the document had been "widely misunderstood" by the bishops themselves to mean they shouldn't go to police. And lawyers for abuse victims in the United States have cited the document in arguing that the Catholic Church tried to obstruct justice.


    But canon lawyers insisted Friday that there was nothing in the document that would preclude bishops from fulfilling their moral and civic duties of going to police when confronted with a case of child abuse. [so why didn't they ? ]

    They stressed that the document merely concerned procedures for handling the church trial of an accused priest, and that the secrecy required by Rome for that hearing by no means extended to a ban on reporting such crimes to civil authorities.
    "Canon law concerning grave crimes ... doesn't in any way interfere with or diminish the obligations of the faithful to civil laws," said Monsignor Davide Cito, a professor of canon law at Rome's Santa Croce University.


    The letter doesn't tell bishops to also report the crimes to police.
    But the Rev. John Coughlin, a law professor at the University of Notre Dame Law School, said it didn't need to. A general principle of moral theology to which every bishop should adhere is that church officials are obliged to follow civil laws where they live, he said.
    Yet Bishop John McAreavey of Dromore in Northern Ireland, told a news conference this week that Irish bishops "widely misinterpreted" the directive and couldn't get a clear reading from Rome on how to proceed.
    "One of the difficulties that bishops expressed was the fact that at times it wasn't always possible to get clear guidance from the Holy See and there wasn't always a consistent approach within the different Vatican departments," he said.


    "Obviously, Rome is aware of this misinterpretation and the harm that this has done, or could potentially do, to the trust that the people have in how the church deals with these matters," he said.
    An Irish government-authorized investigation into the scandal and cover up harshly criticized the Vatican for its mixed messages and insistence on secrecy in the 2001 directive and previous Vatican documents on the topic.


    "An obligation to secrecy/confidentialtiy on the part of participants in a canonical process could undoubtedly constitute an inhibition on reporting child sexual abuse to the civil authorities or others," it concluded.


    In the United States, Dan Shea, an attorney for several victims, has introduced the Ratzinger letter in court as evidence that the church was trying to obstruct justice. He has argued that the church impeded civil reporting by keeping the cases secret and "reserving" them for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
    "This is an international criminal conspiracy to obstruct justice," Shea told The Associated Press.
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    Associated Press reporters Geir Moulson and Kirsten Grieshaber in Berlin and Shawn Pogatchnik in Dublin contributed to this report.



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    Ratzinger would fit in with Glitter in Cambodia.

    Friking old pervert!!

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    No surprise as the Jews control the business of Catholicism.

    It is very evident in the fact all the head fags are forced to wear a yarmulke as part of their ridiculous costumes.

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    This makes a mockery of "The Lords Prayer"

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    Whats the Lords Prayer??

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    ^ google is your friend

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    This Pope has been a disgrace from the start. Posing for pictures with Bush while knowing full well that Bush is responsible for 100,000 plus deaths in Iraq was an act of pure evil and stupidity. If he really cared about the Church, at the time he was selected to be Pope, he would have explained that he was forced to join the Nazi Youth, but still declined the position for the welfare of the Church.

    I have friends in the USA who are still practicing Catholics, but who speak of him in less polite terms than I am using here.

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    as an ex Nazi youth I thought his visit to the death camps was insensitive

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    The Vatican has been nothing but a money spinning scam for over 1,500 years

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    I thought that "Godfather III" painted an accurate picture of how the Vatican operates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    Whats the Lords Prayer??


    ,,, Come onto me little Children.

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    i knew the papa was one of those...

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    Christian freaks.

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    ^ agreed.

    And the Vatican has been implicated in the past few years on cover-ups and reassignments, based on documents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy View Post
    ^ google is your friend
    As is Big Brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristySweet View Post
    Christianity falls what's to take up the vaccuum ?
    television

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristySweet View Post
    Christianity falls what's to take up the vaccuum ?
    What vacuum? The one in followers' minds?

    It's utter bullshit, the argument that only religion results in morality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
    This Pope has been a disgrace from the start. Posing for pictures with Bush while knowing full well that Bush is responsible for 100,000 plus deaths in Iraq was an act of pure evil and stupidity. If he really cared about the Church, at the time he was selected to be Pope, he would have explained that he was forced to join the Nazi Youth, but still declined the position for the welfare of the Church.

    I have friends in the USA who are still practicing Catholics, but who speak of him in less polite terms than I am using here.
    Can I...Please can say it...Please?

    The Pope is an id..t, there I said it again..well almost!

    Guess I get some heat for it.. again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristySweet View Post
    Christianity falls what's to take up the vaccuum ?
    Honesty, integrity and of course the big one... individual responsibility!!!!!!

    Like, crazy shit huh?

    I've managed perfectly well without believing in some fairy tale, I'm sure others can too.

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    there is nothing wrong with the message
    only the messanger

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    No supprise here I am not a religious man and maybe this is the reason I do believe in religion at all each to thier own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josepy wallace
    No supprise here I am not a religious man and maybe this is the reason I do believe in religion at all each to thier own.
    Are you the pope by any chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by teddy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ChristySweet View Post
    Christianity falls what's to take up the vaccuum ?
    television
    ...or Tom Cruise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy View Post
    there is nothing wrong with the message
    only the messanger
    Perhaps. Or not. Some might consider the message to be bogus from it's origins.

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    Stone him.

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