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    China calls US hypocrite over human rights

    China calls US hypocrite over human rights
    3/13/2010

    BEIJING: China accused Washington of hypocrisy yesterday for its criticism of Beijing's restrictions on the Internet and dissent, blaming the United States for the financial crisis and saying its own rights record was terrible. In its annual survey of human rights in 194 countries issued on Thursday, the US State Department criticised China, along with Cuba, Myanmar, North Korea and Russia.

    China's State Council Information Office, or cabinet spokesman's office, issued its own annual assessment of the United States' human rights record in response, and this year it dwelt on America's economic woes.
    "The United States not only has a terrible domestic human rights record, it is also the main source of many human rights disasters worldwide," the Chinese report said, according to the official Xinhua news agency.
    "Especially a time when the world is suffering serious human rights disasters caused by the global financial crisis sparked by the US sub-prime crisis, the US government has ignored its own grave human rights problems and revelled in accusing other countries."

    Washington has long criticised of China on human rights, and the subject has added to recent tensions with Beijing, which has also pushed back over arms sales to Taiwan and President Barack Obama's meeting with the Dalai Lama, the exiled Tibetan leader. China has claimed sovereignty over Taiwan since their split in 1949 amid civil war, and reviles the Dalai Lama as a "separatist" for seeking self-rule for his Himalayan homeland.
    China's Foreign Ministry, in a separate statement, also condemned US House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi for comments earlier this week honouring "the many brave Tibetans who have sacrificed their lives fighting for freedom".

    "We advise the relevant US congresswoman to respect the facts, abandon her prejudices and stop using the Tibet issue to interfere in China's internal affairs," spokesman Qin Gang said in a statement on the ministry's website .
    China's Internet controls have also thrust Beijing into a dispute with search engine giant Google, which has said it may shut down its Chinese-language Google.cn portal and draw back from the Chinese market out of concerns over censorship and a hacking attack from within the country.
    China has intensified restrictions on the Internet, imposed tight control over people seen as threats to Communist Party rule, and increased repression of Uighurs after ethnic violence and riots in Xinjiang, the country's restive far-western region, said the State Department report.

    China's Communist Party authorities have shown little patience with Western criticisms of Beijing's punishment of political dissidents and protesters.

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    China accused Washington of hypocrisy yesterday
    They do have a point.

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    If you accuse someone of hypocrisy, you mean that they pretend to have qualities, beliefs, or feelings that they do not really have

    hypocrisydon't in English - Google Dictionary

    don't know , personally I think the USA has the beliefs but can not live up to them .

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    It seems to me that it is no ones business except the chinks what they do,, same as the USA, if you are not a tax paying citizen of that country then it is none of your fucking business what they do.
    Just as it is none of the USA business what Queen Liz does or Putin or none of the other countrys.
    I remember when the USA took over Guam I think it was, the Japs there didn't think they would like living under that kind of a govt, so they lined up lots of the familys and jumped off of a cliff and splattered all over the rocks below,, now thats doing something positive about a situation that you do not like,, lots better than to come on a forum and piss and moan about what GW did to Saddam, or Mao say dung did to Daily Lama..

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    if you are not a tax paying citizen of that country then it is none of your fucking business what they do.
    absolute total garbage , you try time and again to promote this idea which I reject absolutely .

    we have but one planet on which we all live and no man is an island .

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    go over there and get in their shit then,, maybe you can straighten them out to your way of thinking, But you ain't going to do no good here with folks that have problems of their own,, just stirring shit.

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    you breath the same air and drink the same water as everyone else on the planet , your argument has more holes in it than a sieve .

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    You know, if one person, just one person does it they may think he's really sick and they won't take him.

    And if two people, two people do it, in harmony, they may think they're both faggots and they won't take either of them.

    And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out.

    They may think it's an organization.

    And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day,I said fifty people a day walking in singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out.

    And friends they may thinks it's a movement.


    LYRICS - Alice's Restaurant


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    When you are setting on the crapper and you feel something going on down below,, it pobly is a movement.

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    The chinese do have a point. The US statements usually conveniently 'forget' to mention all of the problem caused either directly by US government (wars, blockades, coup d'etats, terrorism, ingerence, etc...), or either by its firms for profit.

    Most usually, these work in conjunction to create absolute mess where US firms will benefit the most. Best example in the area : Papouasia.


    The most ironical of it, as opposed to former empires, is that US citizens see pretty much zilch out of it (no social security, little pensions, very average public services . . .).


    Now, China being overseen as the next ruling empire, we can question how much benefits its citizens will get out of the pie...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    If you accuse someone of hypocrisy, you mean that they pretend to have qualities, beliefs, or feelings that they do not really have

    hypocrisydon't in English - Google Dictionary

    don't know , personally I think the USA has the beliefs but can not live up to them .
    The beliefs of the US are so tethered and constrained by the machinations of Christianity and the Dark Ages that they still view the world through that little aperture called the asshole.

    They preach tolerance but are horribly intolerant. The demand to be heard, but will not listen. They KNOW they are right, just as the KNOW everyone else is wrong.

    THAT is hypocrisy.

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    The act or practice of a hypocrite; a feigning to be what one
    is not, or to feel what one does not feel; a dissimulation,
    or a concealment of one's real character, disposition, or
    motives; especially, the assuming of false appearance of
    virtue or religion; a simulation of goodness.
    Eat more Cheezy Poofs!

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    I'd just like to thank George W Bush once more, for totally screwing up any moral high ground the US might have had.

    The Chinese argument is highly flawed though. Pointing fingers at someone else is a lame tactic, to deflect away from their own mess. They are responsible for their shit and it really is about time they were taken to task for all the vile crap they get away with.
    "Slavery is the daughter of darkness; an ignorant people is the blind instrument of its own destruction; ambition and intrigue take advantage of the credulity and inexperience of men who have no political, economic or civil knowledge. They mistake pure illusion for reality, license for freedom, treason for patriotism, vengeance for justice."-Simón Bolívar

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    It never ceases to amaze me that the glass house of the US can never seem to resist tossing stones at others. Such self-righteous rhetoric does fuck all in solving foreign relations problems anyway. Judge not lest ye be judged springs to mind.

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    All this hypocrisy reminded me of a nice band from the 90's : Disposable Heroes of Hyphoprisy.

    Check this out !


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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    China accused Washington of hypocrisy yesterday
    They do have a point.
    Indeed they do, Ant. Just seems that no one is conditioned to view the flip-flop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    It seems to me that it is no ones business except the chinks what they do,, same as the USA, if you are not a tax paying citizen of that country then it is none of your fucking business what they do.
    So why were the US in Vietnam, Korea, Bosnia, Rwanda, Afghanistan & Iraq (to name but a few)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    So why were the US in Vietnam, Korea, Bosnia, Rwanda, Afghanistan & Iraq (to name but a few)?
    Well Korea was a UN police action,, I know nothing about Rwanda as that was a Brit thing as far as I know,, UN police action in Bosnia,, Afghan is supposedly War on Terrorism and is backed by UN and a lot of country's, Iraq, I really do not know, they do not ask my permission nor need it to do this shit, them and the Brits and the Aussies and who ever else is there, they seem to have just done it on their own,, I have nothing to do with it.
    And far as I am concerned it is none of my business and certainly none of yours either really as you seem to be helpless to stop it..
    I can not stop it or it would have been shut down years ago. There would pobly be as many dead, but my troops would not have to stay there and watch them kill each other.

    Look at the news today,, Somalia is killing each other off in great numbers, Nigeria is killing each other off in great numbers, Pakistan is killing each other off in great numbers, Afghanistan is killing each other off in great numbers.
    They all say that troops? are killing civilians? and that civilians are dying in great numbers? who's troops and who's civilians because Somalia does not even have an active govt.?
    And in all of these places they are killing with fire arms, and suicide bombers and car bombers. How in hell are you going to stop them from doing that?
    I would pull all my troops out and send them back home to till the fields and grow corn or something useful instead of standing in the way of warring people and getting my fellow countrymen killed.
    But of coarse all the niggers and Muslims are the world Messiah's people and they are the ones killing each other..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    China calls US hypocrite over human rights
    If the US feels the need to criticize others then they first need to clean up their own house and then criticize "all" nations committing human rights violations not just the ones who fail to "cooperate" with US foriegn policy. For friends and allies of the US whose human rights are shocking, criticism is deafening in it's silence.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    I would pull all my troops out and send them back home to till the fields and grow corn or something useful instead of standing in the way of warring people and getting my fellow countrymen killed.
    Something we can agree on. The US sticks it's nose where it doesn't belong too often. All for "national security". Total BS, it's about $$$ (war industry).

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    and don't forget the oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    and then criticize "all" nations committing human rights violations not just the ones who fail to "cooperate" with US foriegn policy. For friends and allies of the US whose human rights are shocking, criticism is deafening in it's silence.
    They did sort of quietly mention Thailand in an off hand sort of way, didn't really kick up much of a fuss though.

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    well I'm against the grain again , no surprises there .

    I am happy the US for all it's faults continues to speak out because silence is akin to complicity .

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    ^ Tsst

    I guess better hear that than be deaf...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    China calls US hypocrite over human rights
    If the US feels the need to criticize others then they first need to clean up their own house and then criticize "all" nations committing human rights violations not just the ones who fail to "cooperate" with US foriegn policy. For friends and allies of the US whose human rights are shocking, criticism is deafening in it's silence.
    Quite right.

    What about Saudi Arabia?

    And what about Israel? USA has vetoed dozens of UN resolutions critical of Israels human rights abuses.
    U.S. Vetoes of UN Resolutions Critical of Israel

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