View Poll Results: Is Rove a nutter who should be in jail?

Voters
33. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes

    24 72.73%
  • No

    1 3.03%
  • A little bit of waterboarding does no harm

    8 24.24%
Results 1 to 23 of 23
  1. #1
    Thailand Expat
    dirtydog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Pattaya Jomtien
    Posts
    58,774

    Rove 'proud' of US waterboarding terror suspects

    Rove 'proud' of US waterboarding terror suspects



    Karl Rove: 'Waterboarding kept world safe'

    A senior adviser to former US President George W Bush has defended tough interrogation techniques, saying their use helped prevent terrorist attacks.

    In a BBC interview, Karl Rove, who was known as "Bush's brain", said he "was proud we used techniques that broke the will of these terrorists".

    He said waterboarding, which simulates drowning, should not be considered torture.
    In 2009, President Barack Obama banned waterboarding as a form of torture.

    But the practice was sanctioned in written memos by Bush administration lawyers in August 2002, providing legal cover for its use.

    I'm proud that we kept the world safer than it was, by the use of these techniques
    Karl Rove



    Profile: Karl Rove

    In 2008, CIA head Michael Hayden told Congress it had only been used on three high-profile al-Qaeda detainees, and not for the past five years.

    One of those was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, a key suspect in the 9/11 attacks.

    Mr Rove said US soldiers were subjected to waterboarding as a regular part of their training.

    A less severe form of the technique was used on the three suspects interrogated at the US military prison at Guantanamo Bay, he added.

    "I'm proud that we used techniques that broke the will of these terrorists and gave us valuable information that allowed us to foil plots such as flying aeroplanes into Heathrow and into London, bringing down aircraft over the Pacific, flying an aeroplane into the tallest building in Los Angeles and other plots," Mr Rove told the BBC.

    "Yes, I'm proud that we kept the world safer than it was, by the use of these techniques. They're appropriate, they're in conformity with our international requirements and with US law."

    Mr Rove has just written a memoir, Courage and Consequence, in which he defends the two terms of the Bush administration as "impressive, durable and significant".


  2. #2
    Newbie
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Last Online
    04-05-2011 @ 09:01 PM
    Posts
    42
    Leave it to the BBC to set me straight. All those years, I thought that Cheney was W's brain and that Rove was just his asshole spinmeister.

  3. #3
    Thailand Expat
    BobR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Last Online
    25-05-2019 @ 12:56 PM
    Posts
    7,760
    Obama has been a complete disappointment and a wimp, and America is nothing more than a pathetic joke until Bush and company are either jailed in the USA or preferably turned over to a UN Court for a war crimes trial. They are no better or different than the cops who beat Rodney King and there is no reason why they should be treated any differently.

  4. #4
    Member
    dotcom's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Online
    28-04-2013 @ 10:48 PM
    Location
    Big Mango Onnut
    Posts
    695
    I'll read the book instead of letting libs tell me what it says. Cuz libs fuck it all up.
    I am 100% in favor of making terrorists uncomfortable till they give up all the information they have. Like listening to Michael Jackson music.

    But my personal favorite is to execute them on the battlefield. EOP.
    Barack Hussein Obama lying polecat. Libs Only Comply With Laws They Agree With.

  5. #5
    nid aur yw popeth melyn
    britmaveric's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Pattaya
    Posts
    4,319
    Rove tells us how it is!!! Good lad and should be given a medal.

  6. #6
    Member elche's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Last Online
    16-09-2019 @ 06:10 AM
    Posts
    379
    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
    Obama has been a complete disappointment and a wimp, and America is nothing more than a pathetic joke until Bush and company are either jailed in the USA or preferably turned over to a UN Court for a war crimes trial. They are no better or different than the cops who beat Rodney King and there is no reason why they should be treated any differently.
    ^ I concur

  7. #7
    Thailand Expat HermantheGerman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Last Online
    Today @ 03:00 AM
    Location
    Germany/Satthahip
    Posts
    5,062
    Quote Originally Posted by dotcom View Post
    I'll read the book instead of letting libs tell me what it says. Cuz libs fuck it all up.
    I am 100% in favor of making terrorists uncomfortable till they give up all the information they have. Like listening to Michael Jackson music.

    But my personal favorite is to execute them on the battlefield. EOP.

    I read that book too. Did the cover look like this ?




    or like this

    "Das Schwein Rove"


    Last edited by HermantheGerman; 13-03-2010 at 05:15 AM.

  8. #8
    RIP
    blackgang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Last Online
    08-07-2010 @ 08:33 PM
    Location
    Phetchabun city
    Posts
    15,471
    You getting pretty cagey with that photoshop there Herman..

  9. #9
    I am in Jail
    Butterfly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Last Online
    01-02-2019 @ 03:12 PM
    Posts
    39,832
    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
    Obama has been a complete disappointment and a wimp, and America is nothing more than a pathetic joke until Bush and company are either jailed in the USA or preferably turned over to a UN Court for a war crimes trial. They are no better or different than the cops who beat Rodney King and there is no reason why they should be treated any differently.
    yep, unfortunately I don't POTUS has any power left, it has all been taken "offshore" in Collateral Damage Swap

  10. #10
    Days Work Done! Norton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Roiet
    Posts
    30,305
    Quote Originally Posted by ChristySweet
    Indict, prosecute, convict and then execute Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rice, Rumsfeld and that lying Powell too
    Why single out these folks? Add members of congress and folks who voted for them. They are the ones who allowed them to get away with it. After all, it is a democracy where you get what you allow.

  11. #11
    Thailand Expat
    kmart's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 09:54 PM
    Location
    Rayong.
    Posts
    10,694
    Ain't Rove the guy that leaked the CIA secret agent's identity? Sounds a really great guy, eh?

    It's a bit like the Catholic church claiming that the Inquisition saved Europe.

  12. #12
    Member

    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Last Online
    11-07-2010 @ 09:24 AM
    Location
    Ho Chi Minh City
    Posts
    264
    Quote Originally Posted by ChristySweet
    Indict, prosecute, convict and then execute Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rice, Rumsfeld and that lying Powell too, on the Winter Solstice for war crimes AND failure to uphold the US Constitution.
    If you're going to execute every politician guilty of that you're going to have a very busy executioner.

  13. #13
    Thailand Expat
    Humbert's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Last Online
    Today @ 04:37 AM
    Location
    Bangkok
    Posts
    12,347
    It's sickening to see this jerk making the talk show rounds flogging his book posing as the pithy 'elder statesman'. Testicular cancer would be too good for him.

  14. #14
    Thailand Expat HermantheGerman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Last Online
    Today @ 03:00 AM
    Location
    Germany/Satthahip
    Posts
    5,062
    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    You getting pretty cagey with that photoshop there Herman..
    With a firstname like Karl and a face like a pig...I just couldn't resist.

  15. #15
    I am in Jail
    Butterfly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Last Online
    01-02-2019 @ 03:12 PM
    Posts
    39,832
    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    It's sickening to see this jerk making the talk show rounds flogging his book posing as the pithy 'elder statesman'. Testicular cancer would be too good for him.
    I disagree, it's just a good reminder what kind of garbage we were dealing with before, the more he speaks, the better

  16. #16
    Member

    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Last Online
    03-06-2011 @ 10:06 AM
    Posts
    236
    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    It's sickening to see this jerk making the talk show rounds flogging his book posing as the pithy 'elder statesman'. Testicular cancer would be too good for him.
    I am actually glad he is doing all this talking. It is giving everyone a clearer picture of what that arrogant, joke of an administration was.

    And doesn't Rove remind you of that pompous Herman Goering (in several ways!) ?

  17. #17
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Online
    04-01-2014 @ 08:33 PM
    Location
    Kuala Lumpur
    Posts
    200
    I wonder what a politician's view on water-boarding would be if they were subject to the same (not such a bad idea some of us would say).
    Last edited by WhiteKnight; 13-03-2010 at 03:02 PM.

  18. #18
    Pronce. PH said so AGAIN!
    slackula's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Behind a slipping mask of sanity in Phuket.
    Posts
    9,093
    Karl Rove is a lying sack of shit.


    "The U.S. government -- whether acting alone before domestic courts, commissions and courts-martial or as part of the world community -- has not only condemned the use of water torture but has severely punished those who applied it.

    After World War II, we convicted several Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American and Allied prisoners of war…

    As far back as the U.S. occupation of the Philippines after the 1898 Spanish-American War, U.S. soldiers were court-martialed for using the ‘water cure’ to question Filipino guerrillas.

    More recently, waterboarding cases have appeared in U.S. district courts. One was a civil action brought by several Filipinos seeking damages against the estate of former Philippine president Ferdinand Marcos. The plaintiffs claimed they had been subjected to torture, including water torture. The court awarded $766 million in damages, noting in its findings that "the plaintiffs experienced human rights violations including, but not limited to . . . the water cure, where a cloth was placed over the detainee's mouth and nose, and water producing a drowning sensation."

    In 1983, federal prosecutors charged a Texas sheriff and three of his deputies with violating prisoners' civil rights by forcing confessions. The complaint alleged that the officers conspired to "subject prisoners to a suffocating water torture ordeal in order to coerce confessions. This generally included the placement of a towel over the nose and mouth of the prisoner and the pouring of water in the towel until the prisoner began to move, jerk, or otherwise indicate that he was suffocating and/or drowning."
    bibo ergo sum
    If you hear the thunder be happy - the lightening missed.
    This time.

  19. #19
    nid aur yw popeth melyn
    britmaveric's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Pattaya
    Posts
    4,319
    Rove is a hero. Hopefully one day the yanks will give him a prestigious medal.

  20. #20
    Thailand Expat AntRobertson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    33,893
    That troll's about as subtle as a brick spray-painted neon pink, Brit.

  21. #21
    Pronce. PH said so AGAIN!
    slackula's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Behind a slipping mask of sanity in Phuket.
    Posts
    9,093
    Quote Originally Posted by britmaveric
    Rove is a hero. Hopefully one day the yanks will give him a prestigious medal.
    1/10. You aren't even trying any more.

  22. #22
    Member

    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Last Online
    03-06-2011 @ 10:06 AM
    Posts
    236
    Quote Originally Posted by britmaveric View Post
    Rove is a hero. Hopefully one day the yanks will give him a prestigious medal.
    Hell, why not? They gave one to Jessica Lynch for sleeping on the job.

  23. #23
    Pronce. PH said so AGAIN!
    slackula's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Behind a slipping mask of sanity in Phuket.
    Posts
    9,093
    Rove is spreading his BS even more:

    No, no. Tom with all due respect that was not the policy of our government that we were going to go into Iraq and take their resources in order to pay for the cost of the war. The suggestion that somehow or another the administration had as its policy, “We’re going to go in to Iraq and take their resource and pay for the war” is not accurate. ~Karl Rove now

    "Iraq is a very wealthy country. Enormous oil reserves. They can finance, largely finance the reconstruction of their own country. And I have no doubt that they will." ~Richard Perle, 2002

    “The oil revenue of that country could bring between 50 and 100 billion dollars over the course of the next two or three years. We’re dealing with a country that could really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon,” ~Paul Wolfowitz fater the invasion

    “is a rather wealthy country. … And so there are a variety of means that Iraq has to be able to shoulder much of the burder for their own reconstruction.” ~Ari Fleischer one month before the war

    Think Progress Rove Falsely Claims Bush Administration Never Said Iraqi Oil Revenue Would Help Pay For War

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •