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    French fast food chain sparks halal burger appeal

    French fast food chain Quick sparks halal burger appeal


    Quick said it was testing commercial interest in halal menus

    A French council has lodged a complaint against a fast food chain that serves only meat that conforms with Islamic dietary laws at a local branch.

    The mayor of Roubaix, in northern France, said the halal menu constituted "discrimination" against non-Muslims.

    The branch in Roubaix is one of several restaurants at which the chain, Quick, took non-halal products and pork off the menu in November.

    The move has triggered the latest row over France's Muslim minority.

    Several deputies from French President Nicolas Sarkozy's conservative UMP party have condemned the move, while Marine Le Pen, a vice-president of the far-right National Front, warned of "Islamisation".

    Their comments came ahead of regional elections in France next month, and against the backdrop of a debate over French national identity launched by Mr Sarkozy's government.

    'Going too far'

    In Roubaix, Mayor Rene Vandierendonck, a socialist, called for a boycott, and the town council has filed a complaint for discrimination with a regional court in Lille.

    "I'm not bothered by the fact that there is a halal menu," he said.

    "But this is going too far because it is the only menu on offer and it has become discrimination."

    Quick decided to take a bacon hamburger off the menu at eight of its 350 branches, replacing it with a halal version that comes with smoked turkey.

    It said the move was designed to test the "commercial interest and technical feasibility" of introducing halal menus.

    The Quick manager responsible for the branch in Roubaix said there had been a slight increase in business after the introduction of halal menus and that he had not received complaints from customers, AFP news agency reported.

    France is home to Europe's biggest Muslim minority, which is estimated at more than five million in number.

    Debate has recently focussed on the Islamic veil, with a French parliamentary committee recommending a partial ban on women wearing Islamic face veils last month.


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    In this video you can see a hallal slaughterhouse and how the animals die of an horrible death.
    At the beginning there is the usual civilized practice of killing used by decent people: the animal is first stunned so he can be killed without suffering for seconds before to die.

    Dailymotion - Abattage sans étourdissement : la réalité - une vidéo Animaux

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    ive lost my appetite now. had to turn off after the sheep were bleeding to death.

    i couldnt understand the french, but is this the Halal way of killing? or the french way?

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    Islam is the second official religion in France. Was already 15% of the population a few years back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WujouMao View Post
    ive lost my appetite now. had to turn off after the sheep were bleeding to death.

    i couldnt understand the french, but is this the Halal way of killing? or the french way?
    You should have seen the cows later in the video. Horrible. Of course not for muslims, not unusual for them to even slash the throat of humans.

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    Islam in Europe: Brussels: Vlaams Belang wants action against illegal sheep slaughter

    Brussels: Vlaams Belang wants action against illegal sheep slaughter


    Close to 13 ton of slaughter refuse from illegally slaughtered ship were cleared out by the Brussels municipal cleaning department Net Brussel after Id ul-Adha last year. This was the response of the Brussels State Secretary Emir Kir to a written question by Brussels Vlaams Belang fraction chairperson Dominiek Lootens.

    Net Brussel removed 5.68 ton slaughter waste and 6.76 ton of hides from the public roads in Brussels at the end of 2009.

    An estimated 20,000 sheep were slaughtered in the Brussels Region during Id ul-Adha. 1,993 of those were in various recognized slaughterhouses. Most of the sacrificial animals were therefore ritually slaughtered illegally at home, according to the party.

    Vlaams Belang wants that the various responsible authorities would act urgently against these illegal practices. Those who violate the law should be located and punished, according to the party.

    Source: HLN (Dutch)

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    well fuck that for a game of soldiers. that's the last time i'm eating halal food in Malaysia if i go there. Mind you saying that, i'm sure the indians and Chinese do it just as bad so i dont fancy starving to death. but i really thought that the only logical way was to stun them, or i guess that's wasting too much 'leccy

    this practice would never die out. the 1st time i went to the philippines, i was in a small town in Mindanno. i was woken up at 2am in the morning by pigs screaming. i didn't know why till 5 when i woke up. it was my ex birds Dad's birthday and they slaughtered a feast for him, but i just ranted saying can't you just shoot it in the head so i can get some sleep and not cause the animal any harm.

    if local Christians don't get the message, how are Muslims that follow the Halal code going to understand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WujouMao View Post
    ive lost my appetite now. had to turn off after the sheep were bleeding to death.

    i couldnt understand the french, but is this the Halal way of killing? or the french way?
    You should have seen the cows later in the video. Horrible. Of course not for muslims, not unusual for them to even slash the throat of humans.
    jesus mate. and that was just after the sheep. i'm a meat eater, and i'll never give up meat, but at least i know that in UK, our animals are not slaughtered in this way. or i hope to believe in it.
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    just been reading up on it on wiki. i know muslims cant eat pig, but i didnt know it included any animal with blood in its system. So that's why they are drained. and only a muppet can call to god, and say Allah before slicing the throat
    you know, maybe i should think more before i eat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallalai
    Of course not for muslims, not unusual for them to even slash the throat of humans.
    ^ Jewish are the same, they have to drain the blood in the animal they slaughter. I don't see you going after them you racist twat

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    Up in Surin they cut the throat of the pig. People now are just too desensitized and expect that meat grows in Styrofoam trays with plastic wrap over the top.

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    ^^Yeah. Meat comes from animals. I would similarly challenge anyone to bear watching the kill line in any large US (eg) factory abattoir for more than a few minutes..

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart
    I would similarly challenge anyone to bear watching the kill line in any large US (eg) factory abattoir for more than a few minutes..
    Worked in a slaughter house when I was a lad in Canada. Hard work and not a job for the weak of stomach.

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    ON THE SAD ROAD TO SLAUGHTER

    Check out these sites to see how the so-called 'civilized' prepare animals for slaughter. Sir Paul McCartney's angst features in the first. It is an ethical dilemma for us all, I suppose. I know many of us enjoy our fast-foods and steaks, but I now give a silent farewell to those animals crowded into racks in the back of trucks as they suffer their last breath of air on their way to slaughter. I never use to think about this; but since I'd read about the American 3-man patrol being kidnapped in Iraq and their mutilated limbs and body-parts found later outside an abandoned warehouse near their last patrol site, I am more aware of our own frailty and what we do to fellow humans and our animals. Letz not get into the moon bears etc which spend their entire lifetimes clamped in cages to drain their bile for use as an aphrodisiac.
    But I digress.



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    In the UK the meat is drained too, but they are humanely killed first. I don't understand why Halal meat can't be done in the same way.

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    Has to be said that those of us who eat meat are directly responsible for the cruelity that goes on in slaughter houses. A fact that nobody can deny. I would think that most of us have seen this barbarism at some point in our lives. Shocking. Will i be having flesh on my dinner plate tonight ? Yes.

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    ^ If you look the video I've posted in the post #2 from 0' 15'' to 0' 33'' you can see they stun the animal with an electric gear or I don't know exactly what and then it is straight unconscious for the killing.

    From 0' 35 to the end it's torture, bestiality or anything else you can call it. I doubt the stress added in such a violent death and the animal heading towards la Mekka could add some great taste to the meat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallalai View Post
    ^ If you look the video I've posted in the post #2 from 0' 15'' to 0' 33'' you can see they stun the animal with an electric gear or I don't know exactly what and then it is straight unconscious for the killing.

    From 0' 35 to the end it's torture, bestiality or anything else you can call it. I doubt the stress added in such a violent death and the animal heading towards la Mekka could add some great taste to the meat.
    with regarding what wiki stated on halal & animal welfare, Halal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia "In 1978, a study incorporating electroencephalograph with electrodes surgically implanted on the skull of 17 sheep and 15 calves, at the University of Veterinary Medicine in Germany concluded that "the slaughter in the form of a ritual cut is, if carried out properly, painless in sheep and calves according to EEG recordings and the missing defensive actions" (of the animals) and that "For sheep, there were in part severe reactions both in bloodletting cut and the pain stimuli" when Captive Bolt Stunning (CBS) was used. This study is cited by the German Constitutional Court in its permitting of dhabiha slaughtering.



    Halal and kosher butchers deny their method of killing animals is cruel and expressed anger over the FAWC recommendation

    Majid Katme of the Muslim Council of Britain also disagreed, stating that "it's a sudden and quick haemorrhage. A quick loss of blood pressure and the brain is instantaneously starved of blood and there is no time to start feeling any pain

    In April 2008, the Food and Farming minister in the UK, Lord Rooker, stated that Halal and kosher meat should be labelled when it is put on sale, so that the public can decide whether or not they want to buy food from animals that have been bled to death. He was quoted as saying, "I object to the method of slaughter ... my choice as a customer is that I would want to buy meat that has been looked after and slaughtered in the most humane way possible." The RSPCA supported Lord Rooker's views




    i'm no way an animal lover like the RSCPA, but i still agree that knocking it out 1st before slicing its throat is better than the Islamic way

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    ^I'm not an animal lover too, but I don't understand why some sisterhood tend to believe an animal have to be slaughtered in a cruel way. Casher or Hallal is the same.

    As for me I prefer traditional diet of pork, beef and cheese like this one, typical of my canton.



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    ^ this is just beautiful, Wallalai !!!! Ca est frugal !!!



    Let me just send you some red for making me hungry of food I can't get here

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    I hate you .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallalai View Post
    You should have seen the cows later in the video. Horrible. Of course not for muslims, not unusual for them to even slash the throat of humans.
    Jewish kosher slaughter is not much different - just praising a different god for torturing an animal to death.

    The practice made sense 2000-3000 years ago, as eliminating the blood largely reduces the chances of contamination and spoilage -- of course, some religions and cultures haven't kept up with the times -- particularly the inventions of refrigerators, stoves, running water, and showers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallalai
    As for me I prefer traditional diet of pork, beef and cheese like this one, typical of my canton.
    Fleischplaetli? Is that donkey-salami?

    We have been pesco-vegetarians for close to ten years . . . a much better alternative to eating meat for many reasons . . . (but I do sneak in the occasional lechon in Davao)

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    Tis all a filthy business, raghead or infidel, which is why I have not partaken of it since 1972

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck
    Jewish kosher slaughter is not much different - just praising a different god for torturing an animal to death.
    Right, I really don't understand why killing an animal this way could sanctify the meat. A bunch of retards they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy dog View Post
    Tis all a filthy business, raghead or infidel, which is why I have not partaken of it since 1972
    Fook me, I wasn't even born until 1974

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