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    Australia : Vics first to crack down on street smokers

    Vics first to crack down on street smokers
    Fiona Hudson
    February 09, 2010


    Smoking anywhere in public could one day be a thing of the past for Australians.
    Picture: Robert Mckell

    SMOKING outdoors will be outlawed along entire streets in a Victorian-first trial.

    The Herald Sun reports Frankston City Council is preparing to impose blanket bans along three busy open-air shopping strips, including opposite the train station.

    Lighting up in the designated exclusion zones during the planned six-month trial could cost defiant smokers fines up to $110.

    Frankston Mayor Christine Richards said yesterday the bid to banish cigarette smoke from streets would probably upset some people, but the health benefits were worth any flak.

    "We want to make people think twice about the way they conduct themselves in the public domain, and who they are affecting," she said.


    "There are a huge number of deaths from tobacco in Victoria each year, more than from alcohol and traffic accidents and illicit drugs.

    "We want to do something about it."

    Cr Richards said the hefty fines would be imposed by council officers, but details were still to be decided.

    Victorian laws already ban smoking in pubs, cafes, shopping centres, gaming venues and workplaces, on some beaches, on covered train platforms, and in cars carrying children.

    Cr Richards said the proposed laws were a glimpse of the future for Victorian smokers, and she hoped other councils would adopt similar measures.

    But Alistair Wardle - the only one of nine councillors to vote against the trial - described the move as "a bit extreme".

    "My main concern is that it is an infringement of civil liberties," Cr Wardle said.

    "It's getting trivial, booking people for smoking on the pavement. It's open space.

    "If people see someone smoking, they can walk around them."

    A report by council staff said the bans would be complicated and noted community concerns about over-regulation.

    "Smoking is a legal activity and people who smoke are not criminals, nor are they undesirable individuals to have in commercial precincts," it said.

    heraldsun.com.au


    OTT for mine , do councils really have this sort of power ?

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    What evidence do they have to suggest that smoking in the street is harmful to others ?

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    I think they are getting silly now with a lot of double standards.

    Whilst the governments allow industry to spew out millions of tons of toxic fumes they want to pick on someone who has gone outside for a fag.

    Another revenue generator is what I guess!

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    Excellent....bout time these filthy, selfish people were fined, banned, taxed off the planet.

    They are to weak to control themselves, so somebody must do it for them.

    They would make good BDSM slaves I reckons...

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    The lunatics have truly taken over the asylum.

    They will not be happy until they have total and utter control over people's lives.

    It's behavioural discrimination.

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    Excellent....bout time these filthy, selfish people were fined, banned, taxed off the planet.
    that's not the question nor the debate here ,

    question is do councils have this kind of power , if so be afraid , very afraid .

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    From the looks of the darlings in the photo, they might be far better off closing all of their donut shops to prevent obesity-related diseases. Makes just as much sense.

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    Australia, fast becoming another nanny state.

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    ^^

    silly as it sounds that's the very point , where does it stop ?

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    sounds as bad as California

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    Why not just ban the sale of cigarettes?

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    It stops when all the selfish smoking bastards die or stop smoking in ANY public place.

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    ^^

    double edged sword , hole in the health budget from loss of tax revenue would be astronomical

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    It stops when all the selfish smoking bastards die or stop smoking in ANY public place.
    bet ya it don't , booze next ?

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    if you sit next to a smoker....you have to breathe his filth.

    If you sit next to a drinker....you do not have to drink his drink....just listen to his shit.

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    like I have said , ain't about smokers ,it's about councils power over your life

    there are forests and trees ,

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    evidence norty.

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    what sort of deranged knob would go to victoria in the first place ?

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    you really think it will be confined to Victoria if it flies ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
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    colour me unconcerned

    the idea of stephen conroy having to resign sets me more excited

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    May as well ban growing old as well !
    I would imagine statistics show that as a large factor in death rates !

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    ^^

    so coloured , I'm not prepared to hand over this sort of control over my life without a fight and for the record I'm a new ex smoker .

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    you seen the state of those burds..Thats enough to stop you smoking..!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
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    frankston is but a trendy part of the cold cnut of a place they call victoria
    and they are airing a trendy law
    trends pass

    I avoid wictoria as there are more coppers per square inch there and I always get busted for sommething when I pass through that shithole

    maybe they should ban cigarettes as they are the main form of money laundering - http://dunwalke.com/3_RJR_Nabisco.htm - rather than the health smokescreen

    though that may force a few unwanted truths into the open
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    Control every aspect of your life; America, Britain, Australia are all the same. I don't smoke but the stupidity of this law reminds me how lucky I am to be here.

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