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    UK terrorist threat level raised to 'severe'

    UK terrorist threat level raised to 'severe'


    The UK terror threat level is being raised from "substantial" to "severe", Home Secretary Alan Johnson has said.

    The new alert level means a terrorist attack is considered "highly likely". It had stood at substantial since July.

    It is in response to the perceived increased threat from international terrorism following the failed Detroit airliner bombing on Christmas Day.

    Mr Johnson stressed there was no intelligence to suggest a terrorist attack was imminent.

    The decision to raise the threat level was made by the UK's Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre (JTAC).

    THREAT LEVEL SYSTEM
    Low - attack is unlikely
    Moderate - attack is possible, but not likely
    Substantial - attack is a strong possibility
    Severe - attack is highly likely
    Critical - attack is expected imminently



    Timeline: UK threat levels

    Mr Johnson said JTAC kept the threat level under constant review, making its judgments based on a broad range of factors, including the intent and capabilities of international terrorist groups in the UK and overseas.

    He said: "We still face a real and serious threat to the UK from international terrorism, so I would urge the public to remain vigilant and carry on reporting suspicious events to the appropriate authorities and to support the police and security services in their continuing efforts to discover, track and disrupt terrorist activity."

    Mr Johnson said the new level meant people needed to be "more aware".
    The decision to raise the threat level was not specifically linked to the failed Christmas Day bomb attack on a plane bound for Detroit or to any other incident, he said.

    He said the government would not reveal specific intelligence details.
    "We never say what the intelligence is and it would be pretty daft of us to do that," he said, adding: "It shouldn't be thought to be linked to Detroit or anywhere else for that matter."

    But the UK had not reached the highest threat level of "critical", which would mean an attack was imminent.

    Move mirrors US

    He added: "We have a very adept and very focused counter terrorism facility in this country, which consists of many police officers as well as security officers, so the public should be reassured by that."

    The US Department of Homeland Security said the move meant the UK would be on a similar level of alert to America.

    ANALYSIS

    Frank Gardner, BBC security correspondent

    Essentially four factors have prompted this: capability of terrorists looking to attack this country; their intent; the timing and the intelligence.

    It is a bit of a spin off - it is not directly related but it's following the alleged attempt to bring down an airliner on Christmas Day in Detroit coupled with a lot of the intercepted signals coming out of al-Qaeda operatives in Yemen.

    Measures were introduced last week to try to choke off any potential threat from Yemen.

    But it is a wider picture - a kind of hubbub of raised chatter which, one has to assume, is being intercepted by eavesdropping agencies, that is all feeding into a big pot.

    This is distilled by something called the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre (JTAC) which sits inside MI5 24 hours a day, seven days a week, analysing the threat to Britain and its nationals.

    They have concluded there is enough out there to raise it to the second highest level.

    In a statement it said: "The UK is raising their measures to effectively where we are with the airport security measures that we have taken and announced over the last few weeks.

    "We have enhanced our security measures and communicated specific information to industry, law enforcement and the American people."

    BBC home affairs correspondent Daniel Sandford said the perceived threat from Yemen since the Christmas day attempted attack may be one factor behind the decision to raise the threat level.

    But he added that there might be additional factors which have not been revealed by the government.

    Prime Minister Gordon Brown announced on Wednesday that direct flights between Yemen and the UK were to be suspended over fears about their safety.

    The change in threat level comes days ahead of two major international conferences on Yemen and Afghanistan in London on Wednesday and Thursday.

    There are five levels of terror threat, ranging from low - meaning an attack is unlikely - to critical - when an attack is expected imminently. Severe is the second highest level on the scale.

    The threat level was first made public on 1 August 2006, when it was set at severe. It was raised to critical on 10 August that year after a series of arrests over an alleged plot to blow up transatlantic aircraft but lowered to severe again the following week.

    The threat level was last at critical in June 2007, following the attack on Glasgow Airport and the failed car bombings in central London.


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    I was under the impression that we had won the war of terror, pretty sure Bush announced something along those lines a couple of years ago from some ship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    I was under the impression that we had won the war of terror, pretty sure Bush announced something along those lines a couple of years ago from some ship.
    It was so much more fun in the early days when they called it The War Against Terror until they realised that the acronym spelt TWAT.

    Cheers

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    shoulda looked closer DD




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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Timeline: UK threat levels

    On October 11th 1066 the English government issued a "no worries" Low level threat warning. Three days later the then PM Harold Godwinson took one in the eye from the international Norman invading nation (ININ) terrorist group.
    We wont get fooled again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    I was under the impression that we had won the war of terror
    Never won. Remain vigilant. Issue one of those fine UK made bomb detectors to every citizen. Mission accomplished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Critical - attack is expected imminently
    The threat level was last at critical in June 2007, following the attack on Glasgow Airport

    I will have to get my dictionary out, I obviously have forgotten what imminent means

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    Quote Originally Posted by withnallstoke
    On October 11th 1066 the English government issued a "no worries" Low level threat warning.
    They had just won the battle of stamford bridge

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy
    They had just won the battle of stamford bridge
    Hence the low level warning.

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    seems like the UK has been "americanized",

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    ^Yep, more and more freedom everyday, still, at least we showed those mussies we meant business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by withnallstoke
    On October 11th 1066 the English government issued a "no worries" Low level threat warning.
    They had just won the battle of stamford bridge
    Bloody football hooligans.

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    Surely the report of possible terror attacks 'lacks credibility'

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    Threat levels were a lot better when I were a lad. I remember going into MOD buildings (and back out again, usually at high speed) in Whitehall back when Heseltine was jumping out of helicopters to attack hippies and terrifying the country with tales of elite Spetsnaz units scaling the White Cliffs of Dover with special Communist grappling hooks designed by Stalin. The alert state of the day was always shown on a board in the lobby.They were called Bikini states. The bikini equivalent of today's "Severe" was "Bikini Black Special" or "Bikini Amber". Sounded like Australian beers. They did this kind of thing a lot better back during the Cold War
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    Bikini girls with machine guns?

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    Ah, The Power Of Nightmares.

    Keep the masses terrified.

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Mr Johnson stressed there was no intelligence to suggest a terrorist attack was imminent.
    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    But it is a wider picture - a kind of hubbub of raised chatter which, one has to assume, is being intercepted by eavesdropping agencies, that is all feeding into a big pot.
    Yes, er, we are picking up a kind of hubbub of chatter and feeding it into a big pot. Right.

    I wonder if the "chatter" was like that holiday video some poor Arabs made on a trip to Disney land where it was deemed by a court of law to actually be a terrorist training video showing potential targets and they got shipped off to Gitmo for their troubles.
    Fahn Cahn's

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Threat levels were a lot better when I were a lad. I remember going into MOD buildings (and back out again, usually at high speed) in Whitehall back when Heseltine was jumping out of helicopters to attack hippies and terrifying the country with tales of elite Spetsnaz units scaling the White Cliffs of Dover with special Communist grappling hooks designed by Stalin. The alert state of the day was always shown on a board in the lobby.They were called Bikini states. The bikini equivalent of today's "Severe" was "Bikini Black Special" or "Bikini Amber". Sounded like Australian beers. They did this kind of thing a lot better back during the Cold War
    I remember the 'Bikini states, i always thought it strange to advertise a state of alert on the notice board in most police stations. Kinda like 'we will let you know when we are not looking'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Bob
    Bikini girls with machine guns?
    Awesome Cramps reference, well played!


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    I believe thw Bikini states of alet were originaly designed for the threat from the Provisional IRA. T

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    The UK terror threat level is being raised from "substantial" to "severe", Home Secretary Alan Johnson has said.
    Has the Chunnel reopened? Are the French coming?

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    ^ the French have come already and conquered,

    EuroTunel and the Eurostar

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    Sustainability, that's all!!

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    the problem never existed before they ley them all in .
    bolting the door after the horse has bolted spings to mind .
    the enemy is within the gates and will always be a nuisance

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