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    HAITI : Anger at US builds up

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    Jan 17, 2010


    Dozens of French citizens and dual Haitian-French nationals crowded the airport but had to sleep on the tarmac when a plane due to take them to Guadeloupe was prevented from landing.
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    PORT-AU-PRINCE - ANGER built Saturday at Haiti's US-controlled main airport, where aid flights were still being turned away and poor coordination continued to hamper the relief effort four days on.

    'Let's take over the runway,' shouted one voice. 'We need to send a message to (US President Barack) Obama,' cried another. Control remained in the hands of US forces, who face criticism for the continued disarray at the overwhelmed airfield.

    Dozens of French citizens and dual Haitian-French nationals crowded the airport on Saturday seeking to be evacuated after Tuesday's massive 7.0 earthquake, which levelled much of the capital Port-au-Prince.

    But at the last minute, a plane due to take them to the French island of Guadeloupe was prevented from landing, leaving them to sleep on the tarmac, waiting for a way out.

    'They're repatriating the Americans and not anyone else,' said Mr Charles Misteder, 50. 'The American monopoly has to end. They are dominating us and not allowing us to return home.' The crowd accused American forces, who were handed control of the airport by Haitian authorities, of monopolising the airfield's single runway to evacuate their own citizens.

    The US embassy denied it was putting the evacuation of the approximately 40,000 to 45,000 American citizens in the country first. -- AFP

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    >The US embassy denied it was putting the evacuation of the approximately 40,000 to 45,000 American citizens in the country first

    I am confused. Why would citizens of other countries expect the USA to bail them out?

    I have no problems with the yanks getting thier own citizens out first, and surely would be grateful if the extended that aid after to help citizens of other countries after their citizens were safe?

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    depends on the condition of said persons does it not ?

    surely you would expect those with medical needs to be given priority regardless of nationality ?

    and before anyone starts , no i don't know if this is the case or not simply answering the previous post .

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    What he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post

    surely you would expect those with medical needs to be given priority regardless of nationality ?
    Dunno there mid. I see your point, but aslo think the USA government should be taking care of the interests of its own citizens as their first priority.

    Other governments are more than welcome to take care of their own citizens. Thought thats what we paid them for, and thought thats what their job was.

    Too often crap seems to get shoveled on the Americans as if it was thier job to take care of the world. perhaps also, if people don't want their troops in certain palces, they should not expect their hospital ship etc?

    In particular the french have never been supportive of the USA - what should they expect to run to the USA now the shit has hit the fan?

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    surely you jest if your expecting me to swallow fit and healthy people being flown out prior to those requiring medical attention .

    please note that it isn't a US facility ( the airport ) and the US has been asked to manage it by the locals .

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    >The US embassy denied it was putting the evacuation of the approximately 40,000 to 45,000 American citizens in the country first

    I am confused. Why would citizens of other countries expect the USA to bail them out?

    I have no problems with the yanks getting thier own citizens out first, and surely would be grateful if the extended that aid after to help citizens of other countries after their citizens were safe?
    I think what they are saying is that only American planes are being allowed to come and go. The airstrip is in control of the US military. There are probably other reasons for what is happening. They may be giving priority to planes that are bringing in supplies, who knows. The airstrip can't handle all the planes that want to arrive so someone has to divert.

    Someone tell the French that America is doing more than it's fair share in this. It's not like there is a profit to be had here, this is costing the US taxpayer far more than the French are putting out. The US is spending far more than anyone else.

    Maybe this would be a good time for the Haitians to ask France for the all the francs they gave them in the 1800's for their independence, with interest.

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    [QUOTE=nidhogg;1294348]
    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post

    In particular the french have never been supportive of the USA - what should they expect to run to the USA now the shit has hit the fan?
    I think you'll find that the USA owes France a great deal, the statue of liberty is not there without reason after all.

    I don't know a great deal about more recent history though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonraker
    I think you'll find that the USA owes France a great deal, the statue of liberty is not there without reason after all.
    Sure the frogs were with US during revolution war,, but they also had vested interest and sold the Louisiana purchase to the US.
    The statue is copper so worth something, but the frogs were also bailed out in 1945.
    And if they didn't want the US running the fucking air traffic then why turn the airport over to them, or is this another" Invasion of sovereignty" issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    or is this another" Invasion of sovereignty" issue?
    Indeed it is. The USA is seizing upon this natural disaster to expand it's evil empire of greed and corruption. Haiti will be Bambam's one and only great legacy. There will be a huge presidential library in honor to it.
    (ya know, the molehill into a mountain thing)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuktukdriver View Post

    Someone tell the French that America is doing more than it's fair share in this. It's not like there is a profit to be had here.
    Profit. No profit. There is always a hidden agenda.....as such actions are not founded altruistically. It's not the nature of these politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tuktukdriver View Post

    Someone tell the French that America is doing more than it's fair share in this. It's not like there is a profit to be had here.
    Profit. No profit. There is always a hidden agenda.....as such actions are not founded altruistically. It's not the nature of these politics.
    Do you even understand the shite coming out your arse? Your wise man on the hill schtick is really annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuktukdriver
    Do you even understand the shite coming out your arse? Your wise man on the hill schtick is really annoying
    But have you really read what FRED says,, he is a politician and nothing he says can be nailed down and is all double talk everytime.

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    One would have to be quite naive not to realize that the US Governments #1 priority in Haiti is the protection of American corporate assets. Always has been, and earthquake or not, always will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post

    surely you would expect those with medical needs to be given priority regardless of nationality ?
    Dunno there mid. I see your point, but aslo think the USA government should be taking care of the interests of its own citizens as their first priority.

    Other governments are more than welcome to take care of their own citizens. Thought thats what we paid them for, and thought thats what their job was.

    Too often crap seems to get shoveled on the Americans as if it was thier job to take care of the world. perhaps also, if people don't want their troops in certain palces, they should not expect their hospital ship etc?

    In particular the french have never been supportive of the USA - what should they expect to run to the USA now the shit has hit the fan?
    Well surely even you understand that when the US has overtaken the only airport of the country they have not just the responsability to take care of their own but everyone involved! Whether or not the French whine is legitimate or not is an entirely different question.

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    ^fk all in Haiti, dont think there is much to protect from the Yank stand point.

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    it is all easily explained actually.... Merkins can't speak any other language so are unable to explain to the cheese eating surrender monkeys that they can't go first.

    Never mind chaps.. there are some BA planes on the way, loaded with, ummm whatever you load a plane with, and I see a South Korean has also made it out there; to be joined I am sure over the next few days by loads of other Heads of States...lead by dear Hillary who just thinks she is a Head of State.

    I also notice that the first to get out were the missionaries..

    That's it folks... lead by example.... never mind the Haitians... no more converts here for a while.

    There are, I am sure, examples of very brave and dedicated people of all tongues, religions and political doctrines. However now, we just need the good ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    or is this another" Invasion of sovereignty" issue?
    Indeed it is. The USA is seizing upon this natural disaster to expand it's evil empire of greed and corruption. Haiti will be Bambam's one and only great legacy. There will be a huge presidential library in honor to it.
    (ya know, the molehill into a mountain thing)
    Haiti, the 51st state...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post


    Dozens of French citizens
    ........'Let's take over the runway,' shouted one voice.
    Those 2 lines in the same proximity of each other are sure to get some giggles.

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    I would have expected the port to be more a centre of aid and logistics

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    As Plorf said, if the US has taken control of the airport then it is their duty to assist all, not just their citizens . . if that is the case.

    The port is all but gone, I believe . . nowhere to dock

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    ...I am confused. Why would citizens of other countries expect the USA to bail them out?

    I have no problems with the yanks getting thier own citizens out first, and surely would be grateful if the extended that aid after to help citizens of other countries after their citizens were safe?
    Nothing wrong with evacuating their own citizens first, except to the chronic complainers, and we'll probably find the US ends up with more refugees and eventual residents on it's own soil than any other country. Still, it's a given they'll face the music in the end, for being more generous than anyone else. It's called envy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WashedupinSurin View Post
    ...Profit. No profit. There is always a hidden agenda.....as such actions are not founded altruistically. It's not the nature of these politics.
    There may be a hidden agenda after the (expensive) rescue and rebuilding efforts, and if so I hope it includes regime change to benefit the people instead of their corrupt leaders.

    For now, the US and its generous people are giving as usual, and trying to save lives, which I can understand pisses off many.

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