Outrage over controversial Islamic group's plan

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Outrage over controversial Islamic group's plan to march through Wootton Bassett
People in Wootton Bassett, the town famous for honouring dead British soldiers returning from Afghanistan, reacted defiantly on Saturday to news that a controversial Islamic group is to march through its streets.

Published: 11:20AM GMT 02 Jan 2010
Islam4UK – which calls itself a "platform" for extremist movement al-Muhajiroun – plans to parade through the Wiltshire town in the coming weeks.
The group's website says the event is being held "not in memory of the occupying and merciless British military" but of the Muslims its says have been "murdered in the name of democracy and freedom".


The town that shows respect for fallen Servicemen should be renamed 'Royal Wootton Bassett'
Leader Anjem Choudary said the protest, involving 500 people, would be peaceful one, with "symbolic coffins" being carried to honour Muslim victims of the conflict. He said he also planned to write to the parents of dead UK soldiers with his version of "the reality of what they died for".
But the walk will not coincide with the return of a dead soldier's body, added Mr Choudary, 42, a former lawyer from East London.
Hundreds of people line the market town's High Street every week to watch servicemen's bodies being driven through from RAF Lyneham.
Family and friends of the fallen, shopkeepers and British Legion members wait in all weathers to pay silent tribute to a cortege of Union flag-draped coffins.
Ex-mayor and councillor Chris Wannell said: "We don't do what we do at Wootton Bassett for any political reason at all, but to pay our respects to those who have given their lives for our freedom.
"We are a Christian country and a traditional old English market town who honour very much our Queen and country. We obey the law and pay respects to our servicemen who protect our freedom.
"If this man has any decency about him he will not hold a march through Wootton Bassett."
He also called on the media not to give the group any attention.
North Wiltshire MP James Gray said: "I've seen in the past assorted groups threaten to march, but they don't actually do it. I wouldn't think they'd get permission from the police.
"The people of Wootton Bassett are not interested in politics. They will say, these are foolish people making a silly point – we'll get on with our ordinary lives thank you.
"This also misunderstands the nature of what the people of Wootton Bassett do. They are not bloodthirstily in favour of the war. Most people would say they were not qualified to comment on the rightness or wrongness.
"The people of Wootton Bassett are decent, quiet, pragmatic people and they'll stay at home instead (of reacting to the march)."
Islam4UK describes the plans for the "momentous march" on its website.
It says: "Wootton Bassett, is currently famous for its public mourning processions held in memory of British soldiers killed whilst on military service in Afghanistan; coffins containing the dismembered bodies of these soldiers are usually draped in Union jack flags and driven through the town centre from RAF Lyneham, as a tribute to their 'sacrifice'.
"The proposed march by members of Islam4UK is however of a very different venture, held not in memory of the occupying and merciless British military, but rather the real war dead who have been shunned by the Western media and general public as they were and continue to be horrifically murdered in the name of Democracy and Freedom – the innocent Muslim men, women and children.
"It is quite extraordinary, that with well over 100,000 Muslims killed in Afghanistan in the last 8 years that those military serviceman who have directly or indirectly contributed to their death are paraded as war heroes and moreover honoured for what is ultimately genocide.
"We at Islam4UK find this totally unacceptable and as a result have decided to launch the 'Wootton Bassett March' to highlight the real casualties of this brutal Crusade."
Mr Choudary added: "The British public is blissfully unaware of what's being done in their name. More than 10,000 innocent men women and children are being slaughtered.
"You may see one or two coffins being returned to the UK every other day but when you think about the people of Afghanistan it's a huge number (being killed) in comparison.
"I intend to write a letter to the parents of British soldiers telling them the reality of what they died for."
The march will call for the withdrawal of British troops who Mr Choudary believes are largely in Afghanistan to "prevent the rise of Islam in the area."
He added that some families of the dead soldiers had even offered him their support.Outrage over controversial Islamic group's plan to march through Wootton Bassett - Telegraph

[StrontiumDog]

Extremists or otherwise, they have a point. A lot of innocent people have been killed and will be...now they need to understand the concepts of accountability and responsibility....why are foreign forces there?

[Bangyai]

"It is quite extraordinary, that with well over 100,000 Muslims killed in Afghanistan in the last 8 years that those military serviceman who have directly or indirectly contributed to their death are paraded as war heroes and moreover honoured for what is ultimately genocide.

Mr Choudary added: "The British public is blissfully unaware of what's being done in their name. More than 10,000 innocent men women and children are being slaughtered.

The implication here is that only 10,000 of the 100,000 muslims killed were innocent and that the rest were not. i.e they were Taliban ?

Whereas it is clear that many innocent people have been killed in the crossfire it is pathetically weak rhetoric to imply that the British army ( and other contingents ) are on a mission of genocide. If those great respectors of human rights , the Taliban ,would lay down their weapons , a lot fewer people on both sides and in the middle would get killed.

[slackula]

The march will call for the withdrawal of British troops who Mr Choudary believes are largely in Afghanistan to "prevent the rise of Islam in the area."

Somebody should buy this stupid cnut a map.

[Itchy]

They should let them march - get them out in the open and then stone the Bastards.

[Moonraker]

Are these the same cnuts whilst a memorial parade was going on?

[meepho]

I live 4.5 miles from Basset, and i can honestly say if these idiots are allowed to march, it would be purely an act to provoke confrontation.

Personnaly i would make an effort to go, and show my feelings towards these idiots, of all the places to march they pick a sleepy town, that has shown their respect to the young soldiers of england that arrive from ganistan to Lynham.

This will be a good test of our politicians backbone, they must not let this march go ahead,

If these rag heads feel so strongly feck of to ganistan and let thier feelings be shown there, and never return to these shores.

[Moonraker]

This will be a good test of our politicians backbone, they must not let this march go ahead,

It's a democracy though and so the politicians would be wrong to stop them.

I am no fan of the BNP and other similar "parties" but I am sure that they will make their presence felt should these rag-head wankers go ahead.

[meepho]

This will be a good test of our politicians backbone, they must not let this march go ahead,

It's a democracy though and so the politicians would be wrong to stop them.

I am no fan of the BNP and other similar "parties" but I am sure that they will make their presence felt should these rag-head wankers go ahead.

The unfortunate part is the bnp will be there, and a confrontation will take place.

Thier are enough decent people from Bassett and the surrounding areas to drown these pricks out.

This country used to be a democracy, however it is waining, the rag heads will have to obtain permission for a march, other wise it is a public order matter.

[BillyBobThai]

As stated earlier, when this march takes place, pictures should be taken of all involved and posted for the world to see. Toward the end of the march, the marchers should be stoned, not with rocks, but pig intestines and pig manure.

[BillyBobThai]

At some point in the future, there is going to be a war between the Muzzies and every other religion of the world. The Muzzies want to be the only religion for all.

[Propagator]

Let em march I say, but first remove all the police from the area and give em a days leave. Let the marchers run the gauntlet.

[English Noodles]

What should happen is, all the 'decent' Muslims who are proud to be British and a part of British society should come out and condemn the idea and the people involved.

[Stinky]

^

[StrontiumDog]

LOL...nice clip mate

[taxexile]

all the 'decent' Muslims who are proud to be British and a part of British society should come out

hes on holiday at the moment, he should be back next week though and i'm sure he will make a statement to the press.

[Marmite the Dog]

They have the right to march. Hopefully the non-muslim people will simply ignore them if they disagree with the reasons for the march.

[corned dog]

Say our govt has the balls to ban the march I'm sure a certain mrs blair will pop up and take the govt to court

[blackgang]

"It is quite extraordinary, that with well over 100,000 Muslims killed in Afghanistan in the last 8 years that those military serviceman who have directly or indirectly contributed to their death are paraded as war heroes and moreover honoured for what is ultimately genocide.

And just how many of these were killed by suicide bombers??

[sabang]

They indeed have a right to peacefully march, and beneath it all they are of course quite correct that a hell of a lot more of 'them' are being killed in their own countries than are foreign soldiers and contractors!

Hopefully a few British kids will look on and realise that the numbers of 'our' dead that we drape in flags and send thru' Wootton Bassett are indeed miniscule compared to the number of their dead and maimed. Hopefully they will then think 'Why'- what does this foreign military action do to improve my quality of life, my safety. And, even more hopefully, as they grow up and get to voting age they will be more proactive in demanding that their elected government justify to them, the People, why they should pursue military action outside national borders. Oil company dividends? Lackeys for the apparent Zionist deathwish? Is this guy we're propping up any better than the evil Terrorist enemy- then why is he so unpopular in his own country? And whats in it for me, anyway? You hold shares in oil and weapons companies Mr MP, and are awash in Lobby money- but I don't see your son fighting there in Afghanistan, unlike my Uncle who died horribly there and didn't even own any oil shares- and was never flown on a free junket to Israel for that matter.

Hopefully too some of the marchers will be thinking- what if I tried this same Freedom of Expression in my own native country, what would happen then? So where would I rather live?

[crazy dog]

Hopefully too some of the marchers will be thinking- what if I tried this same Freedom of Expression in my own native country, what would happen then? So where would I rather live?

A hope very much in vain, these people don't care about anything but imposing what they have at home on the UK, while at the same time exploiting the freedoms they hate so much to champion the cause of Islam.

[Marmite the Dog]

"You must blah, blah, blah"

Nice post, Sabs.

[taxexile]

Hopefully they will then think 'Why'- what does this foreign military action do to improve my quality of life,

...... and then maybe they will realise that if the taliban and its many tentacles are not defeated, smashed and completely destroyed before they or their followers gain control of pakistan with its nuclear capability, then the quality of life and safety of the uk and other western countries and the quality of life for those who live in them, and for all those westerners who value freedom of thought and speech will definately be improved.

[sabang]

if the taliban and its many tentacles are not defeated

Nonsense- you are thinking of AQ I think. Tiny, mostly destroyed, and on the back foot- a minor threat. Did you swallow the government spin that Saddam was developing WMD's whole too?

Which is exactly why I want future generations to grow up considerably more sceptical of the true motives of their elected politicians, and who's interests they are truly representing. And thus, become more alert to their lies, propaganda and methodologies. I like people to be able to think for themselves.

[good2bhappy]

I like people to be able to think for themselves.

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