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    Police hunt muggers who killed a have-a-go hero

    Police are hunting the murderers of 'have-a-go hero' Sukhwinder Singh, a father-of-one who was stabbed after chasing thieves who had snatched a woman's handbag.


    By Andrew Alderson and Ben Leach
    Published: 6:17PM GMT 09 Jan 2010

    Sukhwinder Singh chased the thieves along three residential roads before catching up with them Photo: PA


    Mr Singh, 31, was attacked while pursuing two men who had mugged a 28-year-old woman near Barking station in east London.
    Moments earlier, an eye-witness had shouted: "Don't let them run!"


    Police, who described Mr Singh as "brave" and his death as "tragic", set up a cordon around the murder scene and officers searched bins for the murder weapon or the discarded stolen bag.
    They also issued descriptions of two suspects who were described as black, aged in their 20s to 30s, and 5'7" to 6'0" in height.
    Mr Singh, a builder, chased the thieves along three residential roads before catching up with them and being stabbed at least once.
    He was taken to the nearby Royal London Hospital where he later died.
    The Metropolitan Police said the woman was walking home from Barking station along Loxford Road when she was attacked and her shoulder bag was stolen.
    Mr Singh, who had apparently seen the attack, then chased the men along Victoria Road and into Uphall Road, where he was stabbed at about 6.40pm on Friday.
    Detective Inspector John Sandlin said: "This is a tragic death of a man who was killed for attempting to stop others committing crime.
    "I am appealing for anyone that knows who committed this crime, or who has any information about those who committed this crime, to do the right thing and come forward and contact police."
    Mr Sandlin also urged anyone who had seen the robbery, the following altercation or people fleeing the area to come forward.
    "It is also possible that the suspects may have abandoned the bag stolen, and I appeal to anyone who may find a brown leather shoulder bag to contact police," he added.
    Mr Singh had lived in the UK for around 10 years, the police said. He had cousins in Barking but his child lived in India.
    Mr Sandlin said Mr Singh was not connected to the woman who was robbed. Speaking near the scene, in a residential area near Barking station, the detective said: "What Mr Singh did was obviously very brave but I would not encourage that members of the public do that.
    "What I would encourage members of the public to do is tell police what they have seen, to contact us immediately," he said, adding: "An active line of inquiry at the moment is to find out why Mr Singh was in this location."
    Mohammad Jubran, 22, who lives in Victoria Road, said: "I was just coming back from the gym and, when I got home, my mum said she heard someone screaming, calling out 'Don't let them run.'
    "It's terrible. I've been living here for 16 years and it's the first time I have heard someone has been murdered. It makes you more scared about going outside at night. It was a brave thing he did."
    A 36-year-old resident, who asked not to be named, said the roads near the station were well-lit at night but added: "There are quite a lot of robberies around here because it's quite secluded and there is a bridge by the station so people can run to the other side quickly. But I have never heard of anything like this. It's a shock I hope they catch whoever did it."
    A post mortem examination was due to take place at Queen's Hospital, Romford, yesterday afternoon. Police have declined to say which part of the body Mr Singh was stabbed in or how many wounds he received.

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    Very sad for this mans family. He tried to do the right thing and paid with his life. Hope they catch the bastards and give them more than a slap on the wrist. Ironicaly, if he had managed to catch one of the thieves and wrestled him to the ground he would likely have found himself on an assault charge.

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    If it was down to the police and judges, they'd give the murderers a slap on the wrist and a big lump of money for their 'ordeal'.

    Poor bloke.

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    Moments earlier, an eye-witness had shouted: "Don't let them run!"
    "Don't let them run!"
    or
    "Don't. Let them run!"

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    Yep, sad tale. A brave guy. RIP.

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    Wouldn't have happened in Texas, just be 2 down with 45 cal. bullet holes in their backs.

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    ^ absolute drivel


    the incongruity of it all

    She was in her kitchen upstairs with her daughter when she spotted people peering into her window, before grabbing the knife and banging on the windows, scaring the trespassers away.Hertfordshire Police officers warned Klass she should not have used a knife to scare off the teens because carrying an "offensive weapon" - even in her own home - was illegal.

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    Nope, not drivel,, lots of folks pack heat in Texas as well as a lot of other states and so you have to be more careful who you snatch from.
    New York be a better state where guns are outlawed, and maybe worst in Georgia in some towns people are required to own weapons.

    Oroville Washington would be a poor place to do it as everyone I know in that small town up in the upper Washington Okanogan valley have carry permits..

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    Barking always had it's dodgy side, but since I was born there things have got worse, partly due to the latest wave of immigration and partly due to a lot of crack/drugs. Sad to say it's a mistake to chase down and confront muggers in this area, they'll stab you without even thinking twice. Even the police station is locked up now and you have to show yourself on the video camera outside before you can gain access to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    lots of folks pack heat in Texas
    which means the thieves would have pistols also ?

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    Shooting people in back when they pose no threat is murder, weather they stole something or not. Same in every civilized country including USA as far as I am aware.

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    What this guy did in giving chase to the muggers is undoubtedly brave but also very foolish, there was no need to put himself in danger in this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick
    which means the thieves would have pistols also ?
    Which also means that they would not snatch and run, fleeing the scene of a crime is also again the law and shooting in the back is also not listed in a self defence plea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    Wouldn't have happened in Texas, just be 2 down with 45 cal. bullet holes in their backs.
    And that would bring about charges to the shooter.

    Now this would not have happened in Australia, he would have been set alight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdigit View Post
    What this guy did in giving chase to the muggers is undoubtedly brave but also very foolish, there was no need to put himself in danger in this way.
    If it had been my mother being mugged, I would pray that someone like him was around. His death is a sad lost to the society he lived in. RIP.

    Coons with knives were the culprits again. easy to stop this crime if you stop worrying about political correctness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teddy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sdigit View Post
    What this guy did in giving chase to the muggers is undoubtedly brave but also very foolish, there was no need to put himself in danger in this way.
    If it had been my mother being mugged, I would pray that someone like him was around. His death is a sad lost to the society he lived in. RIP.

    Coons with knives were the culprits again. easy to stop this crime if you stop worrying about political correctness.
    Yes Blacks and inner city youths in general and their gun and knife culture are a big problem, it's part of the reason he should have not given chase to them, the danger was over and giving chase was a pointless thing to do and led to the mans death. Even the police are recommending people to give chase.

    Personally I think that knife crime (even carrying a knife) should be severely punished with many years of imprisonment, the effects of knife crime are devastating and the only way to stop it is to make the punishments so severe that people don't dare carry them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda View Post
    Shooting people in back when they pose no threat is murder, weather they stole something or not. Same in every civilized country including USA as far as I am aware.
    In Texas, the thieves would be armed, as would all passers-by, so there'd be a mass shootout leaving scores dead. The survivors would be convicted of murder and get the death penalty.

    RIP brave man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdigit View Post
    What this guy did in giving chase to the muggers is undoubtedly brave but also very foolish, there was no need to put himself in danger in this way.
    My guess is he did it out of principle, which is, if I let these guys get away with it, then everyone will, and that's not a society I want to live in.

    He was pretty unlucky to get killed - RIP - but it doesn't mean the muggers and now murderers have won - to the contrary, they will now be hunted down, found, and sentenced. Whereas, if they'd just snatched a purse, no-one would care, and they'd do it again soon.

    I can't bring myself to say he was foolish. If death was certain - then yes. But it never is, and in this case it was pretty unlikely. I think he was brave. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sdigit View Post
    What this guy did in giving chase to the muggers is undoubtedly brave but also very foolish, there was no need to put himself in danger in this way.
    My guess is he did it out of principle, which is, if I let these guys get away with it, then everyone will, and that's not a society I want to live in.
    My guess is that adrenalin took over and he wasn't thinking clearly

    it doesn't mean the muggers and now murderers have won - to the contrary, they will now be hunted down, found, and sentenced.
    And I hope they get very many long years to rot if they are caught


    Whereas, if they'd just snatched a purse, no-one would care, and they'd do it again soon.
    I can't bring myself to say he was foolish. If death was certain - then yes. But it never is, and in this case it was pretty unlikely. I think he was brave. Period.
    I wish he hadn't given chase and was still alive, RIP

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    He did the right thing, and it obviously came as a natural reaction.
    I would rather have him as a neighbour than a pc correct, leave the perpertrators alone, type.

    Very sad outcome.
    If caught they should get life with no chance of parole, fat chance though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meepho View Post
    I would rather have him as a neighbour than a pc correct, leave the perpertrators alone, type.
    There's nothing PC about self preservation, it's bloody dangerous to go chasing a couple of muggers about inner city streets.

    This tragic death should serve as a reminder to people about what can go wrong when dealing with some of the scum on UK streets today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdigit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by meepho View Post
    I would rather have him as a neighbour than a pc correct, leave the perpertrators alone, type.
    There's nothing PC about self preservation, it's bloody dangerous to go chasing a couple of muggers about inner city streets.

    This tragic death should serve as a reminder to people about what can go wrong when dealing with some of the scum on UK streets today.

    Came out of the pub with my brother some years ago, a fiend of mine was kicking and punching his girl friend.

    We stepped in to stop him causing some serious damage, he got a bit fruity, so i gave him a dig, his girlfriend obviously did not like this and swung her hand bag, which connected with my brother and cut him quite severely.

    Would we do this again, yes we would.

    It is dangerous sometimes to intervene, however some people can not stop themselves doing what they deem, to be the right thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meepho View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sdigit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by meepho View Post
    I would rather have him as a neighbour than a pc correct, leave the perpertrators alone, type.
    There's nothing PC about self preservation, it's bloody dangerous to go chasing a couple of muggers about inner city streets.

    This tragic death should serve as a reminder to people about what can go wrong when dealing with some of the scum on UK streets today.

    Came out of the pub with my brother some years ago, a fiend of mine was kicking and punching his girl friend.

    We stepped in to stop him causing some serious damage, he got a bit fruity, so i gave him a dig, his girlfriend obviously did not like this and swung her hand bag, which connected with my brother and cut him quite severely.

    Would we do this again, yes we would.

    It is dangerous sometimes to intervene, however some people can not stop themselves doing what they deem, to be the right thing.
    I do appreciate what you are saying but as I understand it the woman wasn't being beaten up, it was a bag snatch and the muggers were already running away, there was no real need for the guy to continue the chase.

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    Some people stand-up for what they see as being right, others lay down and bitch about it when the coast is clear.

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