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Old 08-11-2009, 12:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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UK tourist shot dead in Texas bar

A British tourist has been shot dead in a bar in the United States.

Thomas Reeve, 28, was killed when a man entered the bar in Amarillo, Texas, and opened fire, before robbing the venue and customers, says a local report.

A 48-year-old man was shot in the hand and a woman sexually assaulted, says the report. A 25-year-old man has been arrested by police, it adds.

The Foreign Office says its consulate is providing assistance to the family of Mr Reeve, of Maidenhead, Berkshire.

Mr Reeve had been driving through America with two friends.

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Another friend described Mr Reeve as "lovely and easygoing".
Texas newspaper The Lubbock Avalanche-Journal said on its website that police were called to the Spotted Pony Lounge at about 2245 local time on Thursday (0445 GMT on Friday).

It said a police manhunt ended with Ray Carlos Cisneros being taken into custody at about 1730 (2330 GMT) on Friday.

Mr Reeve died at Northwest Texas Hospital, Amarillo, it reports, before being taken to Lubbock for a post-mortem examination.

Adam Cox, a reporter at KGNC Radio Amarillo, told the BBC there was "a lot of shock" in the town at what had happened.
"It's a pretty popular bar, right in the centre of Amarillo, the Spotted Pony Bar. Not many people expect this to happen where people will wander in and shoot up a bar like that," he said.

Mr Cox said: "It really is a heartbreaking story, you hate to hear that. When we saw it was a UK national who had just got into Amarillo that day it made our hearts sink."
"We don't have any motive yet. We do know that the man had apparently been at the bar earlier in the day, so we don't know if there was anything that could have happened earlier."

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Sadly one of the big differences between the UK and the USA are bars. In the UK they quite attractive, safe and attract many high quality people. Not the same in America. Amarillo is a rough transient town on Interstate 40 in N/W Texas. Most decent people there would not go in the majority of bars unless it was one attached to a decent restaurant.
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[quote=BobR;1223987]Sadly one of the big differences between the UK and the USA are bars. In the UK they quite attractive, safe and attract many high quality people.

Good point, Bob. Maybe we can set up an exchange program with some of those 'high quality' skinhead football scum to go to the US and teach them how to behave properly.
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I feel very sorry for Mr. Reeve and his family, but even his mother said this was clearly an incident of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. It was a robbery. Robberies happen all over the world. To put this on some claim of out of control violence in US bars is absurd. There are bars in the US into which you would not venture if you had any common sense. I expect that is the case in most countries. Granted, thee are too many guns floating around the US, but that is also the case in many, many other countries. Assholes with guns rob and kill, and innocent bystanders get hurt. Sad, but true.
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Sadly one of the big differences between the UK and the USA are bars. In the UK they quite attractive, safe and attract many high quality people.

Good point, Bob. Maybe we can set up an exchange program with some of those 'high quality' skinhead football scum to go to the US and teach them how to behave properly.
Obviously you have never been to Amarillo. Your soccer hooligans would be wearing dresses and calling mommie in Amarillo.
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Obviously you have never been to Amarillo. Your soccer hooligans would be wearing dresses and calling mommie in Amarillo.
So this has now turned into a pissing contest of "who's hardest"

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Obviously you have never been to Amarillo. Your soccer hooligans would be wearing dresses and calling mommie in Amarillo.
So this has now turned into a pissing contest of "who's hardest"

This place gets worse with each thread somedays.
Not my intent just saying that Amarillo is a pretty brutal place. In general America is a much more dangerous place than the UK guns or not. As an American this is not something I am proud of.
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I feel very sorry for Mr. Reeve and his family, but even his mother said this was clearly an incident of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. It was a robbery. Robberies happen all over the world. To put this on some claim of out of control violence in US bars is absurd.
Indeed. In gringos' land gun-toting nutjobs have an habit of casually killing people pretty much everywhere, not just in bars
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Does it make any difference to you that, in this case and the cases of the shootings in Orlando and Ft. Hood, the alleged killers were two Mexicans (maybe U.S. citizens) and a muslin one generation removed from the Middle East?
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Not my intent just saying that Amarillo is a pretty brutal place. In general America is a much more dangerous place than the UK guns or not. As an American this is not something I am proud of.
I blame Tony Christie in some respects, as the lyrics in his song clearly portray Amarillo as being a great town where hot chicks ("sweet Marie") hang out.

If the town is such a shithole, i reckon the family of this tourist might want to file a lawsuit against Mr Christie for his song.

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How I long to be there
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And sweet Marie who waits for me

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it's a sad story, but people die every day every where.

Who gives a sh$t?

i KNOW HIS family does, and it is a tragedy.

But people die in robberies, ever second in the world.


Why did you pik THIS STORY?
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it's a sad story, but people die every day every where.

Who gives a sh$t?

i KNOW HIS family does, and it is a tragedy.

But people die in robberies, ever second in the world.


Why did you pik THIS STORY?
Because like all the other stuff that gets posted in here, its news.
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