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Dug

^No one doesn't.

friscofrankie

And what the fuck is that crap supposed to mean? People are being kidnapped, shipping lanes are not safe for commerce, cruising or transportation and you come up with this comment? I've attacked others in this very thread for personal attacks, how can I then tell you you shouljd not comment? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW TO CURTAIL THE PIRACY? have anything of value to adde otehr than some lame-brained rhetoric? I mean seriously, calling your somment s rhetoric is a braod leap in trying to attach any legitimacy I'm tryin' REAl fucking hard to be nice here.

people are being held against their will, fortunes are being held for ransome. THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS has gone up = the end consumer is getting fucked. People even die. and all you can say is... ".part of the broader metaphore of this story" what the fuck are you talking about? What the Fuck does that mean? seriously, Needs an explanation.

The bad gys are the ones taking what doesn't belong to them and holding it for ransom. The bad guys are teh ones stealing the bad guys are teh ones holding innocnt civilian yachtsmen for ransom. Ny god man just dont even post you are an idiot. (excuse me Pnady, But it's true!)

Ther is never a more clear cut case of right and wrong in all of history. Ther is never a more clear cut need for the UNSC to step up ad take an iniative thanexists today withe the 18year old anarchy tha is Somalia. For one I'd liek to see France, the UK or some other country to tell teh UN to go fuck themselves walk in and take over teh fucking country., God forbid the US takes on anoteh POS "war" the "international community" (i.e. teh UN) has been sitting on its collective hands while this shit goes on. and on. and on. Fuck the at sea pirates. Cut their support options to none. These pirates need fuel, supplies a palce to stow their booty Tae that away and they wither and die. Cover them from the air so they cannot move (drones are good for that! hey!) These are not some fairy tale swashbuckling heros. These fucking scum bags are simply road agents f the seas taking advantage ofa weak fuking international community situtation.

IF the UNSC cannot rally a force to deal with these international criminals then they should be disbanded, the UN accepted as a failure dismantled and an individual nation should step up and starting from the interior, proceed to cut some fucking pirate throat (figuratively speaking).

Aft several years of this shit the UN has proved themselves to be a Lame fucking joke nd unnecessary. waste of time. The Un headquaters in NYC would be best used to house the homeless and the seat of "Power" for the un best moved to some obscure African shithlole nation and given a fuckng hut to ork out of.

My country tis of thee, willeventually act unilaterally and kill off this problem and Rghtfully so. One has to wonder what this worthless waste of time could have done to prevent the Iraqi conflict. Just think, If teh UNSC had been a tad bit stronger the weakness ofthe UNSC is amazing I cannot see how it still survives.

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panama hat

I don't believe that is accurate, Panda. Recent examples would show otherwise, I think.
Added to that the Straits of Melaka are patrolled by local navies that protect all nations' ships.

Did you take your red, white and blue blindfold off to write this tripe?

As usual some uninformed half-wits would lead us to think that the US is the only country to undertake, or be involved in, international peace-keeping or patrolling efforts . . .

So . . .

The US goes it alone: The US is the world's policemen. Ra-ra-ra

Other nations do so: The US is the world's policeman. Ra-ra-ra


Get stuffed, mate

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Panda

I cant recall any instances where navies have arrested or killed pirates attacking a ship on the high seas that was not of their own nationality. Things may have changed however.

Territorial waters are a different matter to international laws that govern the high seas. As you point out in the Melakan Straight local navies have the right to arrest who they like in their own territorial waters if they deem they are committing a crime under their countries jurisdiction.

The UN Security Council resolution was at the request of the Somali government and allows international navies to act on behalf of the Somali government ONLY in Somali territorial waters. I believe the laws governing the high seas still remain as such is the reason the pirates have moved thier opperations further out to sea and outside of Somali territorial waters where they are protected.

Below is an extract of discussion prior to the vote on the UN resolution 1816/2008

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Speaking prior to action on the draft, Indonesia’s representative emphasized the need for the draft to be consistent with international law, particularly the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, and to avoid creating a basis for customary international law for the repression of piracy and armed robbery at sea. Actions envisaged in the resolution should only apply to the territorial waters of Somalia, based upon that country’s prior consent. The resolution addressed solely the specific situation off the coast of Somalia, as requested by the Government.

Speaking after the vote, Viet Nam’s representative said the resolution should not be interpreted as allowing any actions in the maritime areas other than Somalia’s or under conditions contrary to international law and the Law of the Sea Convention.

The representative of Libya said he had voted in favour of the draft on the understanding that the resolution related only to acts of piracy in the maritime areas under jurisdiction of Somalia.

South Africa’s representative said that it was necessary to be clear that it was the situation in Somalia that constituted a threat to international peace and security and not sea piracy in itself. Furthermore, the resolution must respect the Law of the Sea Convention, which remained the basis for cooperation among States on the issue of piracy. The Council should not lose focus on the larger situation in the country, most importantly the need to address the political, security and humanitarian situation on the ground.

China’s representative said that the Council’s actions should facilitate international assistance in combating piracy and avoid negative consequences. Such assistance should be based on the wishes of the Government and be applied only to the territorial waters of Somalia. It must comply with the Law of the Sea Convention and must not constitute conflict with existing international legislation. The resolution adopted today responded to those requirements to the greatest extent possible"

baldrick

the other article I was looking for was esquire , and not wired

Unmanned Aircraft - Future of Drone Aircraft and UAVs - Esquire

and the aircraft are not just for surveillance

Dug

We know.
From the OP.

panama hat

Good point, I was comparing apples to oranges. Thanks

fish

Somebody needs to sort these mothers out, either with warships or drones, just sink their motherships and job done.

baldrick

or maybe defend their fishing zones from immoral international companies that are taking advantage and let them go back to fishing to feed their families

panama hat

Germany, Russia . . . and the list goes on.



You are indeed an empty buffoon.

Dug

An empty buffoon indeed.

mordred

You can send a few boats in a show of "unity", but you can't compare the operating cost of one ship to several and claim equality.

panama hat

You are not only a buffoon, but a lying buffoon:

Buffoon.

StrontiumDog

Brilliant!

Lets see if an apology is forthcoming.

panama hat

You are a buffoon.


A lying buffoon who can't admit to having been in the wrong

mordred

So this is how you get an impressive 7,600 posts...by adding nothing but insults to the conversation?

Panda

Bloody hell! Was PH insulting me with that comment. I wondered what it meant.
He can be a bit of a sneaky bugger at times. Remind me to send him a red.

Panda

Lots of different navy ships in the area now. Only problem is that they are not allowed to do anything to stop the pirates until they attack a ship. And by the time the navy boats get to them the pirates have got hostages. So its game set and match over in the pirates favour. The pirates have moved further afield out of Somali territorial waters in thier activities recently so even if they do get caught hijacking a ship on the high seas the navy has to let them go and ensure safe passage unless it happens to be the navy of the same country as the ship being hijacked. The international law of the sea actually protects the pirates in most cases. And thats where the UN falls down in its attempt to control Somali piracy.
Virtually all UN member nations are opposed to any agreement over riding current international law of the sea that allows foreign navies to interfere with other countries shipping. Which includes boarding foreign ships at sea and detaining their crew on suspicion of whatever (including piracy). Its a genie that no country wants to let out of the bottle otherwise it will end up as a cold war tactic between competing countries, and could well end up provoking wars.

If you recall, even a ship from North Korea suspected of carrying weapons to Burma couldn't be stopped at sea despite a UN Security Council ruling.
It seems to be a virtually sacred international law that all countries want to preserve, probably for their not always so noble reasons.

Don Juan

Why can't they simply bomb Somalia into oblivion?

It's not as if anyone's going to miss it.

Panda

You are a Yank, no?