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    US Guards 'Drunk At Obscene Kabul Parties'

    Video footage and pictures allegedly of American embassy guards in Afghanistan have exposed lewd, drunken parties amid claims of obscene hazing rituals.




    Government watchdogs sent US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton a letter documenting complaints about staff working for ArmorGroup, North America in Kabul.


    Accompanying photographs showed nearly naked men behaving badly at their camp in the Afghan capital.


    They featured a group scantily dressed in G-string style garments while dancing around a bonfire and urinating.


    A video clip showed them pouring alcohol down the bare backside of a new recruit and trying to drink it as it spilled from the man's buttocks.


    Hazing rituals initiate people into groups with abusive or humiliating tasks.


    The Project on Government Oversight (Pogo) watchdogs warned staff shortages, alleged "deviant hazing" and drunken conduct threatened to undermine morale among the 450 private guards.


    The letter to Mrs Clinton said: "Numerous emails, photographs and videos portray a 'Lord of the Flies' environment.
    "One email from a current guard describes scenes in which guards and supervisors are 'peeing on people, eating potato chips out of [buttock] cracks... threats and intimidation from those leaders participating'."

    Boozy nights in Kabul



    ArmorGroup, a subsidiary of Florida-based Wakenhut Services Inc, provides security to the Kabul embassy under a five-year, £116m contract.


    The US State Department extended the contract in June despite repeatedly warning the firm it was violating the agreement.


    Spokesman Ian Kelly said the department had launched probes into Pogo's report and the ArmorGroup contract could be terminated.


    But he insisted the embassy was still well-protected at a time of escalating violence in Kabul.


    Mr Kelly said the "most distressing" thing about the report "were the very disgusting photos."


    US Embassy Guards In Afghanistan Scandal: Pogo Reports On Alleged Hazing In Kabul | World News | Sky News


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    According to today's Times they were eating crisps (potato chips) from between each other's buttocks. Brown Sauce flavour?

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    Bizarre human beings Americans, drinking beer from another mans buttocks. Perverse and unprofessional doesnt come close to describing these "men"

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    Love it! If the Americans forced prisoners to to this then the would end up in court. But the army do it voluntarily. Truth, justice and the American way....

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    Wow! Taking a bullet for a fellow soldier is one thing, but eating a chip out of his ass is quite another.

    It is interesting to note that Armorgroup is a British company that provides private security throughout the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mordred View Post
    Wow! Taking a bullet for a fellow soldier is one thing, but eating a chip out of his ass is quite another.

    It is interesting to note that Armorgroup is a British company that provides private security throughout the world.
    Hey! Don't try and blame us for this. They're American chips and American asses

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    Yea, these guys were probably ex US Marines. I'm glad I joined the Army instead.

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    Stupid is as stupid does.

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    Yeah, this is odd, and not good. Are they that bored? I read or heard somewhere else that they've been having other problems with this group of folks. At least it brings more attention to the contractors over there. I don't think most Americans realize how many of them are over in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's really kind of crazy. The US spends boatloads of cash training these guys as Marines and soldiers and what have you, and then they finish up with their service and go to work for Blackwater/Xe or a group like this. The US then loses the trained soldiers with combat experience and has to train an entirely new group of recruits*. In addition, these fellows make a shit-ton more money than their enlisted counterparts.

    *however, if they're up to this kind of bullshit, it might be better that they left the armed forces. They ought to be back home in a fraternity somewhere, doing beer bongs and molesting coeds.

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    Damn Republicans.

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    The Armor Group is a British Company no?

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    Those poor guys need to party with some really hard-core Thai whores ASAP.

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    ^ Smart thinking. Wonder if you could legally get a truckload into Ghan?

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    ^A humanitarian NGO - Culottes sans frontiers

    I could be persuaded to help manage that

    so how do we get funding

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    Quote Originally Posted by wefearourdespot
    Those poor guys need to party with some really hard-core Thai whores ASAP.
    Likely Thailand is where they come for R&R. These guys seem more inclined to prefer ladyboys.

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    Yes, Brits, Americans have been assigned to watch over them now.

    Guys - read the article. These aren't soldiers letting their hair down before they go into battle - they are security guards. No doubt exceedingly well paid. Oh yeah - and I don't think any of them have been forced to go out there do you? they're there because the money's good....
    Some of you have a very weird kind of idea of what a fun night out is - no wonder the streets of Britain are no longer safe for normal people.
    Security contractors at the giant US Embassy in Kabul were accused yesterday of fostering a “Lord of the Flies environment” built on abuse and humiliating initiation rituals.
    The allegations, made by the independent Project On Government Oversight, are contained in a report submitted to Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State. The State Department said that it was treating the allegations “very seriously”.
    The report is based on e-mails, some of which describe the alleged abuse of Afghan nationals. Among those implicated are Britons employed by ArmorGroup North America, the contractor providing security at the embassy, where nearly 1,000 diplomats and support staff work.
    The report quotes an e-mail from a guard currently working for the contractor, describing scenes of guards and supervisors “peeing on people, eating potato chips out of [buttock] cracks” and drinking “vodka shots out of [buttock] cracks”.
    Print ShareThisKABUL — The U.S. Embassy in Afghanistan has banned alcohol and assigned American personnel to watch over the embassy's security guards following allegations of lewd behavior and sexual misconduct at their living quarters.
    An independent watchdog group alleged this week guards hired by a private contractor were threatened and intimidated at their offsite living quarters, and photos were released of guards and supervisors in various stages of nudity at parties flowing with booze.
    The State Department inspector general is leading an investigation of the contractor, ArmorGroup North America.
    Ambassador Karl Eikenberry held a meeting with embassy staff on Thursday to discuss the situation, said embassy spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden.
    "We've already started to make changes to remedy some of the problems," Hayden said.
    Alcohol has been prohibited at Camp Sullivan — the offsite location where ArmorGroup guards live — and diplomatic security staff have been assigned to the camp, the embassy said.
    The embassy "will continue to take every possible step to ensure the safety and security of American Embassy personnel, while respecting the values of all Afghans, Americans and contract employees and visitors from other countries," an embassy statement said.
    The ArmorGroup security personnel guard the gates to the embassy road and perimeter and screen visitors. The Project on Government Oversight, an independent watchdog group, said the nearly 450 ArmorGroup guards live and work in an oppressive environment in which they are subjected to hazing and other inappropriate behavior by supervisors.
    Should change the title to"UK guards at American Embassy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles
    A video clip showed them pouring alcohol down the bare backside of a new recruit and trying to drink it as it spilled from the man's buttocks.
    that sounds very gay, not surprised from ex military personnel

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    Spokesman Ian Kelly said

    Surely not an American!

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    Yep...class act, dem Yanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    Should change the title to"UK guards at American Embassy"
    Why? They're American citizens working for ArmorGroup North America, a company incorporated in Florida and based in Virginia, what part of this are you failing to understand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    that sounds very gay, not surprised from ex military personnel
    Is it only X milityary that you have rousting your colon Bfly?

    Why? They're American citizens working for ArmorGroup North America, a company incorporated in Florida and based in Virginia, what part of this are you failing to understand?
    I know this will be tough for you to do, but maybe get a 2nd grader to explain my post to you, then maybe you understand,, BRITONS I believe is one of the words you are having trouble with,, even if you do travel on a Brit passport, you are still an admitted Thai so we do cut you some slack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    ^ Smart thinking. Wonder if you could legally get a truckload into Ghan?
    Interesting that this topic should come up. Apparently, Blackwater was in the habit of procuring prostitutes (locals, not Thais, and they were kids FFS) for its mercs in Iraq. My guess is that Armor Group did not extend their men the same courtesy.

    Blackwater used 'child prostitutes in Iraq'

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    I know this will be tough for you to do, but maybe get a 2nd grader to explain my post to you,
    Probably unlike you, I don't know any 2nd graders, maybe you could ask one of your 'skype contacts'.


    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    BRITONS I believe is one of the words you are having trouble with,
    I have a much better understanding of the word than you do.
    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    even if you do travel on a Brit passport, you are still an admitted Thai so we do cut you some slack
    Who are 'we'? Are there more than one of you or do you always refer to yourself in the plural form.

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    Ok, well maybe it's just me, but why are hardened professional killers indulging in what appears to be blatantly homosexual rituals? It gets called "hazing" here, suggesting some legitimate purpose to it all, but as far as I can tell it's sado-masochistic gay fantasy hour for all concerned.

    Weird.
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    That's the military/armed forces for you, one big seething mass of repressed homoeroticness.

    Heck just look at some of the members we have on here with military backgrounds!

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