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    Attorney Targets Alleged Terror Ties in Case of Runaway Girl

    Attorney Targets Alleged Terror Ties in Case of Runaway Girl - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com

    A 17-year-old girl who fled to Florida after converting from Islam to Christianity will be in "clear and present danger" if returned to Ohio due to her parent's affiliation with an Islamic cultural center, her attorney claims.

    In a 35-page memorandum filed Monday in Orange County family court, attorney John Stemberger claims Fathima Rifqa Bary, who will remain in foster care in Florida at least until a hearing on Thursday, should not be returned to the custody of her parents, Mohamed and Aysha Bary, because of their connection to the Noor Islamic Cultural Center near Columbus, Ohio.
    "The leader of the mosque, Dr. Hany Saqr, was previously an imam for another area mosque at the same time the largest known Al Qaeda cell in the U.S. since 9/11 was operating out of the mosque," the document read. "Additionally, Dr. Saqr was identified in exhibits submitted by the Department of Justice in a recent terrorism finance trial in Texas as being one of the leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood in North America an international organization responsible for birthing virtually every Islamic terrorist organization in the world, including Al Qaeda."
    The center also is affiliated with Dr. Salah Sultan, a "cleric alleged photographed with terrorist leaders designated as such by the U.S. government," according to the document, and frequently hosts "extremist speakers" who have allegedly made statements supporting violence and terrorism.
    Stemberger also claims the Noor Center has been "directly tied" to an ongoing probe into Somali-American youths who fled the U.S. to train in terror camps operated by the Al Qaeda-linked Al-Shabaab terror organization.
    Stemberger, who is seeking to obtain residence for Bary in Florida, says the claims made in his memorandum is not "a case" against Islam.
    "The vast majority of Muslims in this country are peaceful and law-abiding citizens," Stemberger said Monday. "Her family are members of this mosque That's the problem."
    Stemberger claims the girl's parents are undoubtedly influenced by teachings at the cultural center. If returned to Ohio, as her parents are seeking, it's just a matter of time "until she slips away in the night," he said.
    Attempts by FOXNews.com to reach Hany and attorneys for the Noor Islamic Cultural Center before publication were not successful. Hany has denied all the allegations in the court filings, the Associated Press reports.
    Shayan Elahi, an attorney for Rifqa's father, declined to comment when reached by FOXNews.com because he had yet to read the documents.
    In a separate brief, Fathima Rifqa Bary who moved with her family from Sri Lanka to Queens, N.Y., in 2000, and later to Gahanna, Ohio, in 2004 claims her father selected the cultural center despite eight other mosques that were closer to their home.
    "My father was very intent on making sure that his children, and especially me, were raised deeply in the faith of 'Original Islam' which was taught at the Noor Center," an affidavit filed Monday read. "Our family attended the Noor Center gatherings as much [sic] our schedules would allow."
    The 17-year-old girl said she became a Christian in November 2005 while at the Korean United Methodist Church in Columbus, Ohio.
    "I hid my Christian faith from my parents as best as I could and had to sneak around to attend Christian campus meetings," the affidavit continued. "I also hid my Bible at home in various locations."
    In 2007, after finding the Christian book "Purpose Driven Life," Rifqa claimed her father had a "serious discussion" about the importance of retaining her Muslim faith and Islamic blood line. Later, in 2009, Rifqa claims her father confronted her about whether she had become a Christian.
    "Then my father told me that he received numerous e-mails and phone calls from the leaders of the Noor Center community who informed him that he need to deal with this matter immediately," the affidavit continues.
    Bary also claims her father threatened to kill and disavow her and that her mother threatened to have her "sent back to Sri Lanka to be dealt with" when she discovered another Christian book in her bedroom on July 17.

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    Could be nobody's interested in the traumas of an apostate. Never mind, look at the bright side, at least nobody on here has recommended she get sent back to her parents.

    Latest has her parents' attorneys filing a motion to ban all Christmas cards being sent to her, and to seize all Christmas cards she has already received, on the ground that they are "dangerous to her health and safety."

    Seems odd, considering her parents' claims to the court and media that they respect her choice of faith.

    I wonder what role the supporters of Islamic terror at CAIR have in this travesty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    the supporters of Islamic terror at CAIR have in this travesty
    Keda: nice to see you back...what is CAIR...

    CAIR...cvnts against irreverent rape??

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    Hi, KM...Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), officially, but behind the shield of moderation an upfront bunch of terror sympathisers, supporters and funders.

    Most deserving of a bullet in the brain apiece, just like those they cheer.

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    ^Have any of them actually been charged with any of the crimes you mention?

    Or is this to be an extra-judicial execution?

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    CAIR is an unindicted (my highlight, save you the bother) co-conspirator in Hamas funding, by the Justice Dept, and finally under investigation by even the politically correct Feds, though naturally innocent until proved otherwise. Several (now former) CAIR officials have been convicted of various crimes related to jihad terror, but of course this also has nothing to do with CAIR. I think it's called pass the parcel.


    Or is this to be an extra-judicial execution?
    Absolutely, I agree that would be wrong. Perhaps you should shoot off a friendly reminder to the POTUS, not to pronounce guilt followed by execution when the defendants are clearly innocent. Baaah!

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    Right, so in summary...

    CAIR operates in the post-9/11 and current Patriot Act environment in the US, they haven't actually been charged with any of the crimes you alleged (much less found guilty), yet they're "most deserving of a bullet in the brain"?

    Harsh. Almost sounds like you've declared some jihad on them or something.

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    Precisely, it is so very wrong, which is why I urged you to remind the Anointed One it is unjust to convict and execute defendants before they reach court.

    What say you, insect, fancy your luck in the real world or do feel safer applying these principles only apply on the www?

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    Precisely, it is so very wrong, which is why I urged you to remind the Anointed One it is unjust to convict and execute defendants before they reach court.
    I'm not entirely sure what it is that Obama has to do with this nor why the onus would be on me to pass on some message of yours. You're not making a whole lot of sense.
    Quote Originally Posted by keda View Post
    What say you, insect, fancy your luck in the real world or do feel safer applying these principles only apply on the www?
    That's a bit rich, coming from someone who advocates a bullet in the brain based on nothing more than unsubstantiated allegations.

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    Thats right, so until such time as proof has been had and the rotten bastards shot in the head, why not leave her in my care, she will be very wll taken care of here at my house..

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Precisely, it is so very wrong, which is why I urged you to remind the Anointed One it is unjust to convict and execute defendants before they reach court.
    I'm not entirely sure what it is that Obama has to do with this nor why the onus would be on me to pass on some message of yours. You're not making a whole lot of sense.
    Quote Originally Posted by keda View Post
    What say you, insect, fancy your luck in the real world or do feel safer applying these principles only apply on the www?
    That's a bit rich, coming from someone who advocates a bullet in the brain based on nothing more than unsubstantiated allegations.
    Oh, my bad, I thought you were familiar with the Anointed One's opinion in trying KSM and the others in NYC, that everything will be just fine - once they're convicted and executed.

    Aw, should've been obvious you didn't know because you would've said shazam and made his mind right.

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    If she's allowed to hang with the Christians at least she won't get flogged for showing those cute little ankles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda View Post
    Oh, my bad, I thought you were familiar with the Anointed One's opinion in trying KSM and the others in NYC, that everything will be just fine - once they're convicted and executed.

    Aw, should've been obvious you didn't know because you would've said shazam and made his mind right.
    Right. And what does any of that have to do with the fact that you've apparently decided that a group of people are guilty of a crime and worthy of execution before they've even been charged with anything?

    A distraction, a shifting of the posts? Bit of obfuscation, an attempt to muddy the waters and back slowly away from a untenable statement?

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    Right antsy, and for the same reason that they aint been proven innocent,, thats the reason.

    If you aint got anything to add then why not shut the fuck up.

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    In a 35-page memorandum filed Monday in Orange County family court, attorney John Stemberger claims Fathima Rifqa Bary, who will remain in foster care in Florida at least until a hearing on Thursday, should not be returned to the custody of her parents, Mohamed and Aysha Bary, because of their connection to the Noor Islamic Cultural Center near Columbus, Ohio.
    "The leader of the mosque, Dr. Hany Saqr, was previously an imam for another area mosque at the same time the largest known Al Qaeda cell in the U.S. since 9/11 was operating out of the mosque," the document read. "Additionally, Dr. Saqr was identified in exhibits submitted by the Department of Justice in a recent terrorism finance trial in Texas as being one of the leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood in North America — an international organization responsible for birthing virtually every Islamic terrorist organization in the world, including Al Qaeda."
    I'm quite surprised an organisation like this is allowed to operate in the states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Aw, should've been obvious you didn't know because you would've said shazam and made his mind right.
    Right. And what does any of that have to do with the fact that you've apparently decided that a group of people are guilty of a crime and worthy of execution before they've even been charged with anything?

    Would it make any difference after they've been charged?


    I refer the insect to the answer I gave earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dug View Post
    I'm quite surprised an organisation like this is allowed to operate in the states.
    Nothing's going to change for the better in a mortified society.
    Last edited by keda; 14-12-2009 at 12:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GooMaiRoo View Post
    If she's allowed to hang with the Christians at least she won't get flogged for showing those cute little ankles.
    If she is returned to her illegal immigrant parents, who entered the US on the pretext that they needed to fix her eye, which her brother deliberately damaged, and which btw they didn't pursue once they were in, few people would be surprised if she is promptly murdered, later murdered, or returned to fair and free Sri Lanka where she can quietly and safely be murdered or institutionalised.

    Then the dhimmis can wring their hands and protest they were not to know. Or perhaps twist it, as they are prone to do, claiming her parents were indeed tolerant of her wishes but the 'right wing' brouhaha over her conversion/apostasy exacerbated the situation unexpectedly leading to her fate.

    I'm surprised (bollix, not really) that the very people professing to defend pc strictures of tolerance, freedom of expression and religion, support her return into a compromising environment.


    Meanwhile, CAIR, a tentacle of the insidious Muslim Brotherhood, together with her parents are beginning to panic, and panic makes people unpredictable. Still, let's hope Rifqa's supporters and her defence (DEFENCE??) can delay the legal process until she turns 18 and is legally able to make her own choices free of religious entrapment.

    Go, Rifqa, go!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Aw, should've been obvious you didn't know because you would've said shazam and made his mind right.
    Right. And what does any of that have to do with the fact that you've apparently decided that a group of people are guilty of a crime and worthy of execution before they've even been charged with anything?

    Would it make any difference after they've been charged?


    I refer the insect to the answer I gave earlier.
    Let's get back to the original point in contention shall we:
    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    Hi, KM...Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), officially, but behind the shield of moderation an upfront bunch of terror sympathisers, supporters and funders.

    Most deserving of a bullet in the brain apiece, just like those they cheer
    You've made unsubstantiated allegations of crimes for which you prescribe execution. That they haven't actually been charged or found guilty of what you allege is the point, the only point (your tangents about Obama etc notwithstanding).

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    Sorry, bug, but taking you as the example I've decided not to be perfect.

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    Huh, sounds like that might be based on the faulty premise that you were in the first place.

    But not too worry - I'll take your unencumbered retraction of your clearly untenable (and potentially actionable) comments in post #4 as read then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    ...Let's get back to the original point in contention shall we:
    Yes, my main point of contention is that this is yet another thread you are trying to hijack, failing which you are perfectly content to disrupt it instead.

    You've contributed nothing to the topic re:Rifqa Bary. Instead, you stand sentinel over the thread, and the board, throwing your weight around to make sure everything is just as you like it, because that's the way it should be - otherwise it's squabble mode.

    Do you actually have any thoughts on anything? Is there something you would like to contribute on the topic of Rifqa? Do you think she should be returned to her parents? Should anyone try and fix her eye, or was that just a pretext for her family to enter the country? Is CAIR morally and ethically justified to monitor her internet connection, and demand she receive no Christmas cards? How do you think this incident affects other Muslims thinking to convert, and is CAIR's actions a warning to them too? Do you believe either CAIR or her parents are acting in her best interests? Yes, no, dunno...nothing, no thoughts at all? Ok then, throw another tantrum.


    Bugsy, you're a sick man. Get yourself fixed up, mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    ...Let's get back to the original point in contention shall we:
    Yes, my main point of contention is that this is yet another thread you are trying to hijack, failing which you are perfectly content to disrupt it instead.

    You've contributed nothing to the topic re:Rifqa Bary. Instead, you stand sentinel over the thread, and the board, throwing your weight around to make sure everything is just as you like it, because that's the way it should be - otherwise it's squabble mode.
    Complete and utter rot. I've done nothing but address a point you yourself made.

    That you happen to not like this (mostly I'm guessing because you can't actually substantiate what you said) is neither here nor there. You, with your constant name-calling and personal attacks, are in no position to pass judgment over what does or doesn't constitute a contribution much less define the parameters of the discussion when you constantly shift them to suit yourself.

    You can deny this but the objective evidence is here in this thread and others - in the face of perfectly reasonable posts you respond with churlishness and antagonism.

    Basically keda, until you're capable of conducting a civil discussion/debate and learn to shelve the childish antics you're in no position to lecture others.

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    Pot-------Kettle,, how long has it actually been since you made a comment on the OP instead of a poster????

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    ... The irony is making my head hurt.

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