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    Scots to Release Lockerbie Terrorist

    Lockerbie bomber to go free

    NBC: State Department official confirms British TV reports

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    LONDON - The Scottish government has decided to release Lockerbie bomber Abdel Baset al-Megrahi, a State Department official confirmed to NBC News on Wednesday.
    NBC, quoting the unnamed official, said a statement was expected to be released once an official announcement by Scotland was made.
    Scottish Justice Minister Kenny MacAskill said Wednesday that he had informed the families of the victims that he had come to a decision about what to do with al-Megrahi and would make a formal announcement Thursday afternoon in Edinburgh, the Scottish capital.

    Sky News television and the BBC reported Wednesday that al-Megrahi will be released from prison on compassionate grounds. The BBC added that his release had been expected before the end of the week. Neither network cited the source of its information.
    Al-Megrahi, 57, has terminal cancer.

    I find it deplorable that they would release this monster.

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    F'n hard to believe. I hope someone puts a bullet in his brain, quickly.

    European Liberalism = brain rot. No moral compass left.

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    lockerbie bomber to be released

    The Libyan convicted of the 1988 Lockerbie bombing is to be freed on compassionate grounds, the Scottish government said on Thursday.
    Former Libyan intelligence agent Abdel Basset al-Megrahi, who is terminally ill with prostate cancer, will be released from prison in Scotland and allowed to return to Libya.

    "Megrahi now faces a sentence imposed by a higher power," Scottish justice minister Kenny MacAskill told a news conference. "It is terminal, final and irreversible. He is going to die."

    Megrahi, 57, was convicted in 2001 of the murder of all 259 people on board a Pan Am Boeing 747 and 11 killed on the ground when the aircraft exploded in mid-air above the Scottish town of Lockerbie.

    He will be flown to the Libyan capital Tripoli from Glasgow, Scotland, on Thursday afternoon, the BBC reported.





    What an atrocious & gutless decision, I;m lost for words and feel the pain of the victims relatives
    Fucking Disgusting.

    Brits should be ashamed of their government, G Brown Your a cvnt beyond redemption,

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    Must be some big deal going on in the background here. They have even snubbed the Yanks.

    Lybian oil perhaps?

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    Just seen this on the news, its a fucking disgrace.

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    Brown hasn't even got the guts to announce it himself, he gets some pantyhose from the Scot ( lets play at at Government) Gov to announce it,

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    How the hell can a decision like this be reached for a heartless animal that killed over 200 people and brought grief to thousands of others.

    Compasionate grounds...............................bollocks and there has to be some other hidden agenda behind this shocking decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterpan
    Brits should be ashamed of their government, G Brown Your a cvnt beyond redemption, peterpan is offline Add to peterpan's Reputation Report Post

    Think the decision was down to the Scots and not Westminster, but they would have let the mass murderer go anyway. Brits are ashamed of Gormless Gordon without this, just arse licking the oil rich arabs as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy dog View Post
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    Think the decision was down to the Scots and not Westminster,
    You gotta be a cretin to believe that one

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterpan View Post
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    Think the decision was down to the Scots and not Westminster,
    You gotta be a cretin to believe that one

    The Associated Press: Decision soon on whether to free Lockerbie bomber

    if you are inferring the Scottish government just did what they were told by Brown then where's the evidence of that?

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    I just watched the press conference on BBC. You Brits can correct me on the odd separation Scotland has with the rest of the UK but it seems the decision was for the Scottish Justice Minister to decide.

    He decided based on Scotland's law which has a provision for humanitarian release of prisoners who are terminally ill. The law states a prisoner can be released if it determined they have less than 3 months to live. Apparently 30 cases have been brought forward under the law. 23 have been granted.

    Although I disagree with the decision, I think from a jurisdiction and procedure standpoint he had the unenviable job of making the decision.

    From what he says, his decision was based on evidence and precedent of the laws he had jurisdiction over.

    A brave decision indeed and one that will likely spell the end of his career.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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    Maybe, the scots just didn't want to pay for the medical treatment of the Pan-Am bomber?

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    tight fukkers, ain't they?

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    convicted in 2001 of killing 270 people, released 2009, lets call it 9 years, 9 years divided by 270= fuk knows, but its just over 100 months for killing 270 people, served 1 month for every 3 people he killed, 10 days per person he killed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterpan View Post
    Brown hasn't even got the guts to announce it himself, he gets some pantyhose from the Scot ( lets play at at Government) Gov to announce it,
    You clearly have no idea about the structure of British law. Scottish law is separate from English law. This man was convicted under Scottish law and Brown has no jurisdiction there.

    I listened to the arguments put forward by the Scottish Justice Minister. I thought that they were well argued and most reasonable. The decision was right according to Scottish law .

    Most British relatives of those killed in the Lockerbie bombing; do not believe that Megrahi was responsible. The case against him was very flimsy. It is believed, by some, that Syria was more likely to be responsible for the bombing and that Megrahi was just a convenient fall guy. The British relatives had the advantage of sitting through the court hearings. Many were convinced that they had got the wrong man.

    The appeal judges found five counts as to why the verdict should be appealed. One being that the police withheld for the court the fact that there was a break in at the secure area of the airport that morning. The case against Megahi was purely circumstantial. If the court had know about the break in, lawyers believe, they would have thrown the case out.

    Magrahi was persuaded to drop his appeal, an appeal that he might well have won, It is clear that some people did not want the full facts to come out. The problem is now that, to the relief of many, the full facts may never emerge.

    The decision to release this man was made by fine people, people of intellects and integrity, people of well founded judgment, so different from many of those who spit out their irrational bile in this site.

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    ^So your saying Scottish courts are shite then?

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    As usual a lot more to this story than meets the eye.................
    At the time pf the trial is was written that "The judges bought shame shame and disgrace, it is fair to say, to all those who believed in Scottish law"
    If the appeal had reached the courts and there was any justice whatsoever! the case would have been thrown out, as the conviction was shaky to the extreme in the first place!
    random link below to further info, lots more available.
    Lenin's Long 'uns: Paul Foot & John Ashton's 1995 investigation into Lockerbie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapilvastu View Post
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    Brown hasn't even got the guts to announce it himself, he gets some pantyhose from the Scot ( lets play at at Government) Gov to announce it,
    You clearly have no idea about the structure of British law. Scottish law is separate from English law. This man was convicted under Scottish law and Brown has no jurisdiction there.

    I listened to the arguments put forward by the Scottish Justice Minister. I thought that they were well argued and most reasonable. The decision was right according to Scottish law .

    Most British relatives of those killed in the Lockerbie bombing; do not believe that Megrahi was responsible. The case against him was very flimsy. It is believed, by some, that Syria was more likely to be responsible for the bombing and that Megrahi was just a convenient fall guy. The British relatives had the advantage of sitting through the court hearings. Many were convinced that they had got the wrong man.

    The appeal judges found five counts as to why the verdict should be appealed. One being that the police withheld for the court the fact that there was a break in at the secure area of the airport that morning. The case against Megahi was purely circumstantial. If the court had know about the break in, lawyers believe, they would have thrown the case out.

    Magrahi was persuaded to drop his appeal, an appeal that he might well have won, It is clear that some people did not want the full facts to come out. The problem is now that, to the relief of many, the full facts may never emerge.

    The decision to release this man was made by fine people, people of intellects and integrity, people of well founded judgment, so different from many of those who spit out their irrational bile in this site.
    Very good points. The problem is that the vast majority are unable to distinguish between law and vengeance. There are good reasons why law is kept n the hands of legal professionals. Those, the majority, who believe that law should be the same as mob rule would sooner or later end up on the wrong end of a noose, they should be glad that true legal systems err on the side of justice, if they don't like it they could always go to Iran or Saudi Arabia - countries whose legal systems seem to satisfy their desire for blood.

    The howling mobs who used to crowd the gallows haven't gone away, they're still with us - modern justice, in despite of the plebs who still make up the majority, the scum, of society, does its best to avoid the desire for revenge and errs on the side of caution. No doubt the mob dislike this as it doesn't satisfy their desire for blood but it's guaranteed that when and if they find themselves on the wrong side of the bench they too will be whimpering for justice rather than for vengeance. I have no doubt that if Witchcraft were still illegal 90% of TD posters would be calling for burning on suspicion of satanism. The purpose of law is not to validate the opinions of bloodthirsty fools, it is to protect people from those bloodthirsty fools.
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    A few of us plebes would like the person responsible brought to justice.

    Apparently too much to ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    A few of us plebes would like the person responsible brought to justice.

    Apparently too much to ask.
    Do you mean Gadaffi? Sadly it IS too much to ask, you know as well as I do that the leaders of nations get a get-out-of-jail-free card. It's not nice but that's realpolitik for you, would you be willing to hand Kissinger or Kennedy (if he wasn't already in hell) over to an international court?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    ^So your saying Scottish courts are shite then?
    No, I am saying, as do many others, that in this case, the Scotish court were possibly wrong. Courts in every country and every state are sometimes wrong, this is especially so, when the case is highly political and there is pressure to convict.

    Incidently, I would never use the word 'Shite' to discribe the anyone, least the courts or a democratic country I think I am capable of finding a more appropriate word.

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    If the Scottish courts were wrong I think that Abdel Basset al-Megrahi could think of a lot better words to describe them than just shite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapilvastu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    ^So your saying Scottish courts are shite then?
    No, I am saying, as do many others, that in this case, the Scotish court were possibly wrong. Courts in every country and every state are sometimes wrong, this is especially so, when the case is highly political and there is pressure to convict.

    Incidently, I would never use the word 'Shite' to discribe the anyone, least the courts or a democratic country I think I am capable of finding a more appropriate word.
    Shite is a perfectly appropriate word. Are you one of those idiots who choose to restrict their vocabularies because they believe some words are "naughty"? Perhaps you could also find better words than "incidently", "discribe", "the anyone" or "least the courts or a democratic country" while you're at it. If you're going to make points about people's writing styles you could at least make sure you don't make a complete balls-up of your own sentences while doing so

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