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Old 02-07-2009, 11:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Would be nice to see an example of some of the MP's who have been stealing public money for years, but who will also be let off with gold platted pensions and lump sums when the step down to avoid certain defeat at the election. I hope Straw is among them.
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Old 02-07-2009, 11:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Biggs, 79.
SEVENTY NINE...give the old codger a break..oh sorry he got one recently..is hip-hop ..he ain't going anywhere fast..let the old fart out..He's spent way more time in the nick than a sex case would...so what's Straw's problem???

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Mr Straw said Biggs was "wholly unrepentant" about his actions and had "outrageously courted the media".
Oh and Jack's not a 'Media Whore'??? Come off it...your not telling me that Jack's squeaky clean???? Some years back before I left the UK...for good..not because of crime I might add...or I'd be selling my story too..

I remember that Jack Straw's boy got caught selling 'GEAR' pot and Coke to a journalist from some tabloid paper...don't remember Jack's boy doing any time??

Now I had 'friends' that sold stuff in the UK and some of them got caught and nowhere near as sensationally...they got 'bird' not many got reprieve's 12-18mth sentences...Jack's boy got didderly squat from what I can remember...SEND HIM DOWN....so being 'Home Secretary' can get ya boy off from doing time???? How sweet life is..eh Jack...or should we say 'Pot calling the kettle JACK'

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But the panel added that "in terms of his attitudes and risk areas" there was little evidence, apart from his increased age, to suggest he would not return to his old criminal lifestyle.
Can just see him now nipping down to the Post office to cash his pension (which has no doubt been stopped as well, filthy crim') an holding it up with his Zimmer frame..."gimme all the cash in the till"

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"Mr Biggs chose to serve only one year of a 30-year sentence before he took the personal decision to commit another offence and escape from prison, avoiding capture by travelling abroad for 35 years whilst outrageously courting the media.
But that's the game...isn't it...
My old man was a copper for 25yrs (RIP) and there was one thing he said...there were villans and there were criminals..meaning that there was a distinction between them and their attitudes..
One of them would be like it's a fair cop gov' and the other would be you never take me copper, Putting up as much of a fight as possible.

Biggsy seemed to be a bit of the fair cop type...but the game was always to try and get away..CAT AND MOUSE type stuff..most old coppers used to love the thrill of the chase....my old man did..
Georgie Davies, Kray's, Richardsons, IRA, Iran seige..to name but a few me ol' fella was involved in..but he also loved the excitment of being a copper...and that wasn't possible if the thieves weren't up for it either...THE GAMES WE PLAY!!

Things changed in the UK and the gangsters changed for the worse..the game wasn't the same...and he was happy to get out in the late 80's...no respect for one another...it all changed..my ol' fella I'm sure would agree..let the old man out..don't be a cnut..JACK.


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before returning to the UK voluntarily in 2001.
SILLY BOY...BIG MISTAKE..as above things had changed in the UK....
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Old 02-07-2009, 12:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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there were villans and there were criminals..meaning that there was a distinction between them and their attitudes..
One of them would be like it's a fair cop gov' and the other would be you never take me
So as long as someone has the right attitude towards crime its OK then, they can do what they want?

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I remember that Jack Straw's boy got caught selling 'GEAR' pot and Coke to a journalist from some tabloid paper...don't remember Jack's boy doing any time??
He must have been judged to have the right "attitude"
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They say if you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
He legged it.
Miserable old scrote loved rubbing peoples faces in it when he was living like a celeb in Brazil.
Get some !
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Thats not as I understand it. Medical evaluation determined that Pinochet, who had suffered brain damage was unfit to stand trial.
that's a load of 's if you ask me...

It was because he would've spilt the beans about the relationship with the UK, Margaret Thatcher and the selling of weapons and torture equipment to this total...well...bastard..

The same reasons that Saddam's trials were kept from the media..USA and the UK sold him the weapons to be able to commit the atrocities that he did..USA paid him to kill the Shah in 1960-something and he missed...and killed the prime minister...a later attempt was successful and Saddam was 'put' into power...

This is why we never let the scumbags face the music, simplybecause we and the US have had our grubby little paws all over it...Pinochet was no doubt 'let go' due to reasons of national security..more like the embaressment factor.
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^^ He got some alright....loads...??????
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Even a greater mis carriage of justice then to arrest a known murderer on an international arrest warrant, then let him go due to 'brain damage'. Not well enough to stand trial is the oldest trick in the book, pity the innocent victims screaming in Pinochet's jail cells could get out using the same excuse, most of them never stood trial either of course.
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Even a greater mis carriage of justice then to arrest a known murderer ....
Suspected, surely? After all, is that not what trials are about?
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Even a greater mis carriage of justice then to arrest a known murderer ....
Suspected, surely? After all, is that not what trials are about?

Suspect? you should be asking that of the thousands of families in Chile missing loved ones due to that butcher. He did help us out in the Falklands though, and I have wondered if that is why we let the old tyrant off.
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I doubt if many of you will believe this but I'm going to post it anyway.

A friend of mine committed a serious crime when he was 82 years old.
He had something worrying him and he felt that he had nothing to lose as he would be dead soon anyway.
He would have got anyway with it except that his wheelchair got stuck and he had to leave it at the scene of the crime.
Biggs may be old but he is not incapable of further crime.

Personally I would have accepted the parole board's recommendation and think that Straw is wrong.
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He done the crime, then legged it for many years. Now do your time. No sympathy from me- even though I paid a few quid to have a beer with him in Rio once. I thought he was a bit if a twat actually.

Anyhow, he returned to the UK voluntarily for the medical care- he knew what he was getting into. No point whinging about it, he hasn't served his sentence yet.
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