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    US to invade Iran any day now?

    RT - 24/7 English-language news channel : News : US to invade Iran any day now?

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    A few weeks ago the Russian newspaper Izvestia, a well-known and authoritive daily published nationwide and abroad, came forward with something that would have been looked upon as a conspiracy theory if published by a tabloid. The paper suggested that by attacking South Ossetia, the Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili had badly damaged a planned U.S. military operation against Iran. In the newspaper's opinion Georgia was supposed to play the role of another "unsinkable aircraft carrier" for the U.S., i.e. an operational and tactical base for U.S.
    aircraft that would be making bombing raids into Iran. Something akin to what Thailand was in the Vietnam war.

    Thailand certainly benefited from the arrangement, and Georgia would have too, insists the paper, if its President hadn't put his ambitions above the US national interest and ended up beaten, disarmed, chewing on his neckties and totally incapable of providing whatever the U.S. needs from him.

    That's why, according to Izvestia in yet another article on the matter, the U.S. response to the Russian retaliation was harsh in words but very mild in action. The latest on the issue suggests that Mikhail Saakashvili may be replaced any day now by direct order from Washington.

    Having read the story in Izvestia I decided to try to figure out the extent of improbability and impossibility of the assumptions. As I was doing that, I remembered that early in August CNN had started showing U.S. generals who cried for more troops and hardware for Afghanistan which, in their opinion, was rapidly becoming a more intensive conflict than Iraq.

    Shortly after that, a phone call came from a college friend who had just come back from Kandahar in Afghanistan, where he had seen American battle tanks being unloaded from a Ukrainian-registered Antonov-124 "Ruslan", the heaviest and largest cargo airplane in the world. The friend asked if I had any idea what tanks would be good for in Afghanistan, and I said I didn't. It's an established fact from the Soviet war in Afghanistan that tanks are no good for most of the country's mountainous territory. They are good for flatlands, and the main body of flat land in the region is right across the border in Iran.

    Later in August there was another bit of unofficial information from a Russian military source: more than a thousand American tanks and armored vehicles had been shipped to Eastern Afghanistan by Ukrainian "Ruslans" flying in three to five shipments a day, and more flights were expected.

    Somehow all this, together with the series of articles in Izvestia, the information that all U.S. troops in Afghanistan are going to be reassigned and regrouped under unified command, the arrival of NATO naval ships in the Black Sea, the appointment of a man used to command troops in a combat environment as the new commander of the US Central Command and other bits and pieces. To my total astonishment, when they all fell together the Izvestia story started looking slightly more credible than before.

    Today the U.S. media reported that there had been a leak from the Pentagon about a secret Presidential order in which President Bush authorized his military (most of which is currently on Afghan soil) to conduct operations in Pakistan without the necessity for informing the Pakistani government. The U.S. military in Afghanistan - or shall we say in the whole region neighboring Iran - is getting a freer hand by the day. And it is getting more and more hardware to play with.

    Of course it's quite clear now that Georgia has lost its immediate potential as a nearby airfield, but after all, the aircraft carriers in the Gulf are not so far away.

    Believe me I'm not saying that the U.S. is going to start an all-out war against Iran tomorrow. But aren't there indications that it may happen the day after tomorrow, a month from now, or on any date before the official handover of Presidency in the U.S.? Or, as some suggest, before the election?

    I'm just asking the questions. But there are some people, like those working for Izvestia, for instance, who answer them with a "yes".

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    January suprise perhaps? Well...nonetheless, if George doesn't do it expect Obama to follow the wishes of the ruling elite.

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    I started poking around when I read this thread that BF posted...

    http://teakdoor.com/world-news/39020...thin-72-a.html (Warnings from world leaders all within 72 hours)

    Bush's parting shot will be to plunge the US into war with Iran...

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    ^^ Sure. Should be a anxious couple of months. A side note...today I have heard that President-elect Obama has pladged to inact 71 Executive Orders to be decreed to overturn dozens of the Bush Gang's policies, be they Presidential Directives or mandated laws....

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    It's been on the cards for a while, even Ron Paul talked about this very subject 12 months ago. Alex Jones mentioned it along with others like Daniel Estulin, but of course it's conspiricy because it's alternative media. When it happens it's just a coincidence of course, and all these warnings that are documented and have been put out are still conspiricy because people are to stupid and dumbed down to ask their governments questions.

    And just to add on this. Some of the stuff I read 12 months ago made comments like "When Obama becomes president, their will be a huge event early in his presidency that will test the nation, and their support for him as he will make decisions the people will not like"

    We will see i guess.
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    No, not conspracies at all my friend. There has been talk even amongst the mainstream media-types for several months about a "real" vision that these pricks will be in Iran before long. I, like many, are suprised that such a full invasion hasn't come about yet. I certainly expect Obama to "play the game". As I have suggested already. So much for the "change" and "progressive" foreign policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    Alex Jones mentioned it
    be careful of citing Jones.

    puts you squarely in the category of nutjob, whakko on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muadib View Post
    RT - 24/7 English-language news channel : News : US to invade Iran any day now?

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    A few weeks ago the Russian newspaper Izvestia, a well-known and authoritive daily published nationwide and abroad, came forward with something that would have been looked upon as a conspiracy theory if published by a tabloid. The paper suggested that by attacking South Ossetia, the Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili had badly damaged a planned U.S. military operation against Iran. In the newspaper's opinion Georgia was supposed to play the role of another "unsinkable aircraft carrier" for the U.S.,
    How could anyone believe to such bullshit ?
    With what troops would the USA be planning to invade Iran ? They even lack those necessary to garrison Iraq and Afghanistan !
    And supposing they want to launch an air raid, haven't they excellent air bases in Iraq already ?
    Btw Bush is himself in such a weak position that he could never take new military actions.
    To invade Iraq he had to mount a huge media offensive that lasted months before the actual attack, so figure if anything is going to happen now.

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    ^ 80 percent or more has happened. He warned about the economic collapse 2 years or so ago. He warned about and event on 9/11, there is alot of truth in his information, which are not predictions.

    It's good that mainstream is reporting it, as it backs alternative media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    It's good that mainstream is reporting it, as it backs alternative media.
    i agree with you entirely.

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    as much as bush may want to do it before he leaves office, i don't think it will happen----and i certainly hope not....btw, the US military would never invade iran---bomb it mercilessly, perhaps---but not invade.

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    I'll gladly accept being called a nutjob than being a dumbed down feck that's force fed info, that's just the easy option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    ^ 80 percent or more has happened. He warned about the economic collapse 2 years or so ago. He warned about and event on 9/11, there is alot of truth in his information, which are not predictions.

    It's good that mainstream is reporting it, as it backs alternative media.
    He....who ?

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    In order to invade Iraq the USA would surely need to build up enormous resuces inside Iraq (remember the Desert Storm preparations?) I think the Press would be telling us if that were happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thormaturge View Post
    In order to invade Iraq the USA would surely need to build up enormous resuces inside Iraq (remember the Desert Storm preparations?) I think the Press would be telling us if that were happening.
    " I think the press would be telling us if that were happening". HUH..?? Oh Thormy, you're smarter than that! The establishment and corporate-based media only brings attention to things they are asked of. Actually, my understanding is that the infrastructure and apparatus is already in place. Certainly air-strike ready. The Americans have quietly built a circle of air bases around Iran. From Turkey to Saudi Arabia, from Ubzekistan to UAR. The last couple of months have seen mass naval activity and mass movements from the Pacific fleets to the Indian Ocean/Arabian Sea region. The Atlantic fleets have swiftly repositioned themselves to the Med. It's all there - in working order. These are not excercises. Peace Brother...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaudente View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    ^ 80 percent or more has happened. He warned about the economic collapse 2 years or so ago. He warned about and event on 9/11, there is alot of truth in his information, which are not predictions.

    It's good that mainstream is reporting it, as it backs alternative media.
    He....who ?
    Alex Jones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Thormaturge View Post
    In order to invade Iraq the USA would surely need to build up enormous resuces inside Iraq (remember the Desert Storm preparations?) I think the Press would be telling us if that were happening.
    I think the press would be telling us if that were happening. HUH..?? Oh Thormy, you're smarter than that! The establishment and corporate-based media only brings attention to things they are asked of.
    it's sad that this appears to be true.....except for seymour hersh who has great sources on this issue. btw, it's so ridiculous that some bleat on endlessly about a 'liberal' media in the US, when the exact opposite is true.

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    The original story is dated September 12th which was two months ago. Perhaps it is any month now.

    Bush would be hard pressed convincing Generals to enter Iran now without a firm assurance Obama wouldn't pull them straight back out again.

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    perhaps they talked about it yesterday?

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    Who is gonna pay for it, Lehmann, Freddie, and Fannie?

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    Maybe borrow the money from China.

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    What will they obsess over come January?

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    I certainly expect Obama to "play the game". As I have suggested already. So much for the "change" and "progressive" foreign policy.
    That's an odd statement coming from a nobody. But if you're a World-renowned political annalist please don't be shy, come forward, please. I know I speak for all of us in saying it would be an honour having you here, Mr. .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Who is gonna pay for it, Lehmann, Freddie, and Fannie?
    They'll just put it on the old Diner's Club.

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    3 months ago the US, UK and France sent a fleet of ships out during the shit in Georgia. UK and France each had a Nucleur vessle. This has been preperad for over a decade, not just over the last few months.

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