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    John McCain was not tortured in Vietnam prison, guard claims

    John McCain was not tortured while being held as a prisoner of war, the chief guard of his Vietnamese prison has claimed.


    By Jon Swaine
    Last Updated: 8:49AM BST 14 Oct 2008

    Mr McCain was allegedly in hospital for the first month of his captivity Photo: AP


    Nguyen Tien Tran said: "We never tortured McCain. On the contrary, we saved his life, curing him with extremely valuable medicines that at times were not available to our own wounded."
    Mr McCain, the Republican presidential candidate, who was a Navy pilot during the Vietnam war, regularly refers to his experiences after being captured when his plane was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967.
    He was taken to Hoa Lo Prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton", where he was kept for more than five years and subjected to such brutal beatings that he attempted suicide, he later recalled.
    Today he is unable to lift his arms above his head and, it recently emerged, finds activities requiring intensive use of his hands - such as typing - extremely painful.


    John McCain was not tortured in Vietnam prison, guard claims - Telegraph
    You bullied, you laughed, you lied, you lost!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nguyen Tien Tran
    We never tortured McCain
    Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nguyen Tien Tran
    we saved his life
    That was dumb.

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    would the guard remember this particular american anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    John McCain was not tortured while being held as a prisoner of war, the chief guard of his Vietnamese prison has claimed.

    By Jon Swaine
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    Nguyen Tien Tran said: "We never tortured McCain. On the contrary, we saved his life, curing him with extremely valuable medicines that at times were not available to our own wounded."
    What a silly lie. He worked at the "Hanoi Hilton" where Nguyen's job was to torture POW. If he didn't he would be killed himself.
    If he had actually used valuable medicine on a POW that could have saved their own countrymen Nguyen would have been killed.
    For Nguyen to be alive means that he is a liar.

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    Looks like someone has watched to many Rocky movies!! Different types of torture mental and physical not sure which McCain suffered probably a bit of both,but I am also sure there were no atrocities carried out by the good ole American military?
    Oops sorry I kinda remember a village disappearing name My Lai (massacre) Lt E. Calley (US Army) OIC (Officer in Charge of this operation)
    Calley said it didn,t happen like that does this ring any bells?? Wandering.
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    McCain was quite likely beaten up when captured, but when the VC found out who he was- Admiral McCains son- he was then treated basically with kid gloves. His arm injuries were because when he activated his ejector seat, he did not hold his arms close in to his body.
    probes Aliens

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehighlander959 View Post
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    Looks like someone has watched to many Rocky movies!! Different types of torture mental and physical not sure which McCain suffered probably a bit of both,but I am also sure there were no atrocities carried out by the good ole American military?
    Oops sorry I kinda remember a village disappearing name My Lai (massacre) Lt E. Calley (US Army) OIC (Officer in Charge of this operation)
    Calley said it didn,t happen like that does this ring any bells?? Wandering.
    I never said that America didn't do evil stuff. Doing evil stuff and lying about it is what war is all about. If a person doesn't think the MyLai massacare didn't happen then one would be a fool. The same kind of a fool that would believe that the Viet Kong were all happy, friendly, oppressed innocents who never tortured a soul.

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    Who brought the Viet Cong into the picture. McCain was shot down over Hanoi and captured by the NVA.

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    I never mentioned the Viet Cong!! What I said concerns the disinformation concerning who does or says what? McCain and his representatives say he was tortured along with all the other pilots and POW,s who were held in the Hanoi Hilton, am afraid we only have their word for that unless you take Rambo,s exploits into North Vietnam to recover MIA personnel.
    I dont remember much mercy being shown by either side during the Vietnam conflict. American use of Napalm and flame throwers spring to mind,I know this happened because I have seen live footage.
    I have not seen live footage of torture By the American Army, Viet Cong or the NVA.
    Question is where is McCains proof?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    Today he is unable to lift his arms above his head and, it recently emerged, finds activities requiring intensive use of his hands - such as typing - extremely painful.
    Lazy bastard.

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    Yeah I agree he should get a real f*ckin job!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsRobsLife
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    Today he is unable to lift his arms above his head and, it recently emerged, finds activities requiring intensive use of his hands - such as typing - extremely painful.
    Lazy bastard.
    must be a nightmare if he wants the cornflakes from the top shelf in the mornings

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    His arm injuries were because when he activated his ejector seat, he did not hold his arms close in to his body.
    I have all the symptoms McCain has, can't type, can't lift my arms above my head either. The doctor said I have corporal stress syndrome from wankin too much. I was a POW in Vietnam too. Wankiin was all we had to do, except the time I ate 50 eggs.

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    Yeah camel I have a similar problem!! I used to sleep on top of my left arm, when I woke up I,d have a wank with my left hand. It then felt like someone else was giving you a wank!!!

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    So Jane Fonda was right all along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Begbie View Post
    Who brought the Viet Cong into the picture. McCain was shot down over Hanoi and captured by the NVA.
    Heh...so much for these armchair geography experts, eh?
    That's like Mad Joe Biden getting the West Bank confused with Gaza.

    The Libtard hatred for anything that remotely smacks of Military / Patriotism / Unselfish service to country will always elicit scorn from these geography-imparred Nattering Nabobs of Negivitism...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    Admiral McCains son- he was then treated basically with kid gloves.
    Damn I never thought of that,, But then I never imagined that the NVA would be that afraid of one Admiral, maybe if he would have shouted at them they would have thrown down their weapons and called it quits before they killed so many people.

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    Maybe Jane saved him.

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    Kindness knows no bounds even in a time of war. Add to that Nguyen Tien was a communist who practiced a world brotherhood of man. It's like a double dose of brotherly love!

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    I bet Mcain would like to have a go at this guy for bringing this shit up now. It's bullcrap- he was tortured. Of course that guard is lying.

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    Heresay have you got proof he was tortured? Would you trust what any politician tells you? I think you are too trusting its all American propaganda, to make him look good for the elections. As I said there was a lot of hurt on both sides, as they say you win some you lose some!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehighlander959 View Post
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    Heresay have you got proof he was tortured? Would you trust what any politician tells you? I think you are too trusting its all American propaganda, to make him look good for the elections. As I said there was a lot of hurt on both sides, as they say you win some you lose some!!!
    Do you have proof he wasn't tortured?
    Who cares that he is a politician. Everyone was tortured.
    There are many kinds of torture. Maybe he didn't have bamboo shoots growing out of his fingernails (to the literalists, yes I know what they really did) but it is impossible to believe that less than 100% of POW were not treated in ways that went against the Geneva convention. Just as it would be impossible to believe that the USA or any other country perfectly follows the Geneva convention.

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    But if McCain stayed at the Hilton and got bad service couldn't he now sue Paris or something?

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    You are just a lot of sick bastards. To young to understand. To stupid, to try to understand. And too easily led astray. You are pathetic.

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    Is being tortured a necessary qualification to become the President of the United States of America? Or ought you to be thinking of other attributes to select whoever is about to become the most powerful person on the planet?

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