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    Most Japanese hate us

    Japan survey shows 40 percent of hotels, inns not accepting foreign travelers

    About 40 percent of hotels and inns across Japan do not accommodate foreign travelers, and of these, 70 percent don't want to accommodate them in the future, a government survey has found.

    The survey, whose results were released by the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications on Thursday, found that 37.8 percent of responding hotels and inns did not take in foreign travelers. Of these 72.3 percent said they did not wish to accept them in the future.

    The government has unveiled a "Visit Japan Campaign" seeking to increase the number of foreign visitors to Japan to 10 million by 2010, and on Oct. 1 it set up the Japan Tourism Agency as an extra-ministerial bureau of the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism.

    However, the survey figures suggest that many private hotels and inns do not share the same level of enthusiasm for receiving foreign guests.

    Of the small accommodation facilities -- under 30 rooms -- that did not accommodate foreign travelers, 73.9 percent said they didn't want to accept them in the future. Among larger facilities with at least 100 rooms, the same answer reached 44.2 percent.

    The top reason for refusing foreign travelers, selected by 75.7 percent of the corresponding facilities was "not being able to deal with foreign languages." The next most common reason, chosen by 71.8 percent, was that the facilities were not geared toward foreign travelers.

    Other common reasons were "uncertainty over how to respond when problems occur" (63.4 percent) and "uncertainty over payment methods" (22.2 percent).

    The survey was posted to 16,113 hotels and inns across Japan in April and May. Responses were obtained from 7,068 facilities, representing a response rate of 43.9 percent.

    The Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications is set to ask the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism and the Japan Tourism Agency to take measures to address the issue as early as next year.




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    Apart from those who are sent there, is there anybody that goes to Japan on their own accord?

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    Asians do not like westerners. When they do not need western money they will have nothing to do with a westerner. Thai girls are not as desperate as they were 10 years ago and now most prefer Japs and Koreans over westerners.

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    The top reason for refusing foreign travelers, selected by 75.7 percent of the corresponding facilities was "not being able to deal with foreign languages." The next most common reason, chosen by 71.8 percent, was that the facilities were not geared toward foreign travelers.
    Hmmm not 100% we hate foreigners .... hmmm Iknow there is a problem withthis thread but can't quite put my finger on it ....

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    Travelled in Japan many times- on buisness and for pleasure - towns and out in the sticks -never had a problem.
    can only mumble a few words ofn japanese- but have only met with friendliness- been taken out of hotels and had compulsory "homestays" over weekends !!!!

    They were the best !!!!

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    Never had a prob. Often travelled by local train to small towns I wanted to see. Went to the station info centre on arrival, found a small ryokan (inn) with hopefully a rotenburo (outdoor bath) and lots of local restaurants around. Easier for me as I speak Jap, but people were most helpful to family and friends who visted on their own. Could be the foreigners trudged into tatami mat rooms with their shoes on or didn't scrub and shower down before entering the baths or started shouting coz there was no toilet paper. Who knows? Lots of people travel there and forget to read the Do's and Don't's books first.
    There was also an unspoken ban on foreigners in many public baths at one time coz the Japs thought they all had AIDS. I never had a prob. Best place for a party is soaking naked (with a hand towel draped over your parts for modesty) in a steaming outdoor bath surrounded by huge rocks while it's snowing and everyone is drinking sake from small wooden boxes floating around. Bladdy brilliant that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim1176 View Post
    Asians do not like westerners. When they do not need western money they will have nothing to do with a westerner. Thai girls are not as desperate as they were 10 years ago and now most prefer Japs and Koreans over westerners.
    Say what? Excuse me, do you live in Thailand? The barker hoz are ripping my sleeves off.

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    So long as you remember to remove your shoes when entering the kamikazi room you will get along fine with the Japanese.

    Or is it Yamazaki?

    My guess is that Japanese will be a tad less hostile towards Westerners when they have ceased to glow in the dark, although I have never personally experienced problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim1176 View Post
    Asians do not like westerners. When they do not need western money they will have nothing to do with a westerner. Thai girls are not as desperate as they were 10 years ago and now most prefer Japs and Koreans over westerners.



    Let the truth be known that Thai girls would not have fok all to do with farang if they where educated and financially independent,a quick trip to either Singapore or Hong Kong will prove that.

    Just to be fair , in either Singapore or Hong Kong you will see the occasional girl with a farang but its usually a well to do expat business man and not some fat ugly bastard hanging over a bar with a chang in his hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    About 40 percent of hotels and inns across Japan do not accommodate foreign travelers, and of these, 70 percent don't want to accommodate them in the future, a government survey has found.
    I get the impression that some people posting are assuming that "foreigners" necessarily means Westerners. It doesn't. A huge percentage- I'd say the majority- of tourists visiting Japan are Asians, especially Chinese, along with Koreans. With the possible exception of the Taiwanese and Singaporeans, the Japanese don't really want other "Asians" around (except for doing the dirty jobs). The Japanese are nervous about their neighbor- according to polls Japan was the only country that thought holding the Olympics in China was a bad idea- and there have been a lot of well-publicized incidents of crime, especially housebreaking and pickpocketing, involving Chinese. For the most part the bad publicity about Chinese in Japan, and naturally the associated demagoguery, has been wrongheaded and unfair. Nevertheless, the current popular perception of Chinese in Japan is very negative, and the perception of Koreans remains poor as it has ever been. When Japanese hear "foreigner" nowadays their thoughts go to "fellow" Asians; Japanese consider themselves "Asian" when it is convenient, but- like the Han Chinese, the "Thais", and virtually every other ethnicity in "Asia"- the Japanese consider themselves a breed apart. They certainly hold no monopoly on attitudes of racial superiority in this part of the world.

    Westerners visiting Japan will be treated for the most part with great courtesy. While they may (like the English, the French, the Germans, the "exceptionalist" Americans, etc. ad nauseum) consider themselves racially and culturally superior to poor souls unfortunate enough to have been born outside the Sacred Islands, a traveler in Japan has very little chance of being roughed up, robbed, spat upon, ripped off, or otherwise taken advantage of. Forget your camera or your bag somewhere and there is very good chance of finding it in safe keeping at the local police box. In addition, if one does have a problem there is a very good chance a total stranger will be more than willing to help, and if all else fails you don't have to be afraid to talk to the cops. No matter how they feel about foreigners, the Japanese tend to be civilized, at least in public. A traveler, especially a Westerner traveler, does have a very strong chance of meeting people eager to engage them (in conversation, dining, drinking, sex) without having an ulterior motive involving taking said tourist's cash.

    Why travel to Japan? Thailand has developed a reputation for being exotic, but once one has been here for a while it becomes obvious that scratch the surface and this place is pretty mundane. Whereas, despite having lived in Japan for a total of about 16 years and having near-native fluency in all aspects of the language, Japan to me is still the weirdest country on the planet- the opposite of Thailand in a way, because on the surface Japan appears so mundane and even familiar. I get the chance go back to Japan for visits now and then, and in addition to the weirdness and fun (not to mention the excellent beer and pretty girls who actually know how to dress), being around people who at least know how to fake being civilized is refreshing after Thailand. In addition, while Tokyo may be a bit more expensive than Bangkok- and isn't so bad if you know your way around- the service in restaurants, bars, and shops is unfailingly good, and that too is refreshing after dealing with people here.

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    How many Asians hate Koreans?? It's too general to say that Japs hate Westerners, theres alot of Westerners I hate but not because of nationality but because they are just plain knobheads; I'm sure theres people who think the same of me

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo
    With the possible exception of the Taiwanese and Singaporeans, the Japanese don't really want other "Asians" around (except for doing the dirty jobs).
    Bingo. Japanese I have talked with don't particularly like the term Asian to be applied to them.

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    Am not going to Nippon in the near future, and have no plans to visit there any time in the distant future.So from a personal point of view I do not give a flying f*ck one way or another.
    Any way they killed my uncle during the war, and that kinda pissed my Dad off as he only had one brother and two sisters.
    So they can stick their hotels where a monkey sticks it nuts as far as I am concerned.GIRUY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Bingo. Japanese I have talked with don't particularly like the term Asian to be applied to them.
    true there mate.. are they not orientals? same same but different to 'asians'

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    About 40 percent of hotels and inns across Japan do not accommodate foreign travelers, and of these, 70 percent don't want to accommodate them in the future, a government survey has found.
    I get the impression that some people posting are assuming that "foreigners" necessarily means Westerners. It doesn't. A huge percentage- I'd say the majority- of tourists visiting Japan are Asians, especially Chinese, along with Koreans. With the possible exception of the Taiwanese and Singaporeans, the Japanese don't really want other "Asians" around (except for doing the dirty jobs). The Japanese are nervous about their neighbor- according to polls Japan was the only country that thought holding the Olympics in China was a bad idea- and there have been a lot of well-publicized incidents of crime, especially housebreaking and pickpocketing, involving Chinese. For the most part the bad publicity about Chinese in Japan, and naturally the associated demagoguery, has been wrongheaded and unfair. Nevertheless, the current popular perception of Chinese in Japan is very negative, and the perception of Koreans remains poor as it has ever been. When Japanese hear "foreigner" nowadays their thoughts go to "fellow" Asians; Japanese consider themselves "Asian" when it is convenient, but- like the Han Chinese, the "Thais", and virtually every other ethnicity in "Asia"- the Japanese consider themselves a breed apart. They certainly hold no monopoly on attitudes of racial superiority in this part of the world.

    Westerners visiting Japan will be treated for the most part with great courtesy. While they may (like the English, the French, the Germans, the "exceptionalist" Americans, etc. ad nauseum) consider themselves racially and culturally superior to poor souls unfortunate enough to have been born outside the Sacred Islands, a traveler in Japan has very little chance of being roughed up, robbed, spat upon, ripped off, or otherwise taken advantage of. Forget your camera or your bag somewhere and there is very good chance of finding it in safe keeping at the local police box. In addition, if one does have a problem there is a very good chance a total stranger will be more than willing to help, and if all else fails you don't have to be afraid to talk to the cops. No matter how they feel about foreigners, the Japanese tend to be civilized, at least in public. A traveler, especially a Westerner traveler, does have a very strong chance of meeting people eager to engage them (in conversation, dining, drinking, sex) without having an ulterior motive involving taking said tourist's cash.

    Why travel to Japan? Thailand has developed a reputation for being exotic, but once one has been here for a while it becomes obvious that scratch the surface and this place is pretty mundane. Whereas, despite having lived in Japan for a total of about 16 years and having near-native fluency in all aspects of the language, Japan to me is still the weirdest country on the planet- the opposite of Thailand in a way, because on the surface Japan appears so mundane and even familiar. I get the chance go back to Japan for visits now and then, and in addition to the weirdness and fun (not to mention the excellent beer and pretty girls who actually know how to dress), being around people who at least know how to fake being civilized is refreshing after Thailand. In addition, while Tokyo may be a bit more expensive than Bangkok- and isn't so bad if you know your way around- the service in restaurants, bars, and shops is unfailingly good, and that too is refreshing after dealing with people here.
    Well stated, there is most definately a rift between most Asians first over westerners. Japan occupied all of Asia and did some very hainous crimes, that has not been forgotten, it lurks underneath the surface. conversely Japan lost face in their defeat during WWII and that is also a very significant piece of history THEY have to live down.

    As for "the bomb" as in every case of war be it world wide or a local tiff in the bar it is very often that after such a confrontation there is an amazing respect built up between the combatants and that carries on to close friendships, I see that has happened with both Japan and Germany and do not believe it is anymore a hindrance to that relationship what-so-ever. This is most especially true in a country such as Japan that reveres honor and respect for courage above most everything else.

    On a personal note of observation another thing that puts off the Japanese about the Chinese in particular is their view of the lack of culture in Chinese, public spitting and other lacking manners are considered abhorrent to the Japanese and are common in Chinese culture..

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    I have only been unfairly treated at the immigration in Narita airport. Wanted to arrest me because I was talking to some Thai girls in the Immigration clearance lines.

    I consider the Japanese to be very well mannered and welcoming during my many stays in Japan but I also consider them to be the second most arrogant race when they address other Asians and after the Koreans.

    Now there's a race od people who really don't like westerners (The South Koreans) IMO.

    The only time I have nearly been arrested in this region was in Seoul and because I was not carrying my passport in the Hotel Bar. Very aggresive and the Hotel manager had to save my arse.

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    I agree with your estimation Loy Toy. I used to have Korean contractor (Hyundai) working for me (BP) offshore. We issued them specific engineering procedures to be followed whilst working on a pipe line. This procedure had been used by BP in Turkey on the BTP pipeline from Turkey to Georgia and subsequent other projects, its generic and had been fine tuned for use by a Site visit by BP Engineering and there QA/QC team and was required to be used by Hyundai.
    Conversation: BP Project Manager (ME) to Hyundai PM:This is the procedure we would like you to use as guideline for laying all pipework above 36" diameter.
    HPM to BPPM- We already have procedure for laying pipe it arrived from Korea yesterday?
    BPPM TO HPM- Who did your site survey and operational planning for this project?
    HPM to BPPM- Survey is not necessary as we are very experienced in laying this type of pipe work
    BPPM to HPM- This meeting is over come back to me when you have completed your onsite survey as per the contract, and when you have a procedure in place that follows the guidelines set in the BP procedure. Thank you for your time!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehighlander959 View Post
    I agree with your estimation Loy Toy.
    I like to think that my immediate reaction- i.e., get away if possible- when I find myself among Koreans is as close as I come to being a bigot. I have met some very nice Koreans- very friendly and courteous- and I love the food, but by and large my experiences have been overwhelmingly negative. I can understand their being insecure as a nation- after all, they are a small country wedged between China (which thinks that Korea is rightfully part of the Middle Kingdom- recall the row about Chinese history textbooks a year or two ago), Russia, and Japan, which during its imperial glory days basically tried to eliminate Korean culture, even going so far as to try getting the entire country to speak Japanese and stop using Korean- and right-wing politicians in Japan still have the gall to say that the only reason Korea is successful is because it was a Japanese colony (I'm not making this up). Maybe that is what makes the Koreans so insufferably aggressive, with that bizarre combination of victim consciousness with a superiority complex; or maybe it is all the ginseng. . .

    In other words, I kind of understand why they tend to be the way they are, but it doesn't mean I generally like being around them. The women are pretty, but when you consider that a majority of Korean women get plastic surgery (it is more or less required of them if they want to succeed) they start looking kind of creepy at the same time. The odd thing is, I had a Korean poli-sci prof in college who agreed with me- couldn't stand being around Koreans, loved to go to Japan (where many famous people, as well as a lot of yakuza, are actually ethnic Koreans).

    Plus, tae kwon do is really, really dumb, at least in its Olympic incarnation.

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    Japanese- Taiwnese - Koreans and Chinese do not like being called Asians for one reason.

    When the word Asian is used the world automatically thinks of Indians - Pakistanis etc and they are BROWN!!

    The amount of skin whitening cosmetics on sale in the far east is a good indicator

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    Let the truth be known that Thai girls would not have fok all to do with farang if they where educated and financially independent
    But what about all the financially dependent and educated Thai girls that do....

    ..oh nevermind.

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    True about the Asians in Japan. Filipinos and Thais were dirty. Koreans and Chinese just despised. Not much going for the Nigerians and other blacks and South Asians there, either.

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    i thought this was about the deep historical hatred kept by japan towards the US by the title..........................my bad!

    most thai girls want korean and japanese because their thought as wealthy and being asian more accepted, but japanese men as a genralisation are assholes and korean loud and stupid (this being a genreal view i got from thai women not my own)! Western men are more easy going but fat and ugly, what are you going to do about it...................... complain hahah hahahahahahaa
    im hot its so hot today.......milk was a bad choice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jim1176 View Post
    Asians do not like westerners. When they do not need western money they will have nothing to do with a westerner. Thai girls are not as desperate as they were 10 years ago and now most prefer Japs and Koreans over westerners.



    Let the truth be known that Thai girls would not have fok all to do with farang if they where educated and financially independent,a quick trip to either Singapore or Hong Kong will prove that.

    Just to be fair , in either Singapore or Hong Kong you will see the occasional girl with a farang but its usually a well to do expat business man and not some fat ugly bastard hanging over a bar with a chang in his hand.
    And nicely put too.

    My GF's very well edjucated, earns 3 times more than me and we are doing just fine.
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    wait until she meets a japanese man then..........apparently, or for that matter a korean(the heaviest sarcasm to the point of this being wrong)???

    i too have a wife that earns more then me, can speak better english then any doctor( and me), studied anthropology at uni, gets my jokes drinks beer and is drop dead gorgeous...........not many of them in the uk!!!!!!!!!

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