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dirtydog · 20-08-2008, 04:02 AM

Lawsuit says eatery to blame for 9-foot tapeworm

CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- A man who contends he got a 9-foot tapeworm after eating undercooked fish has sued a Chicago restaurant.

In the lawsuit filed Monday, Anthony Franz said he ordered salmon salad for lunch from Shaw's Crab House in 2006 and fell violently ill. He later passed the giant parasite, which a pathologist determined came from undercooked fish, such as salmon.

Franz's lawsuit seeks $100,000 from Shaw's and its parent company, Lettuce Entertain You Enterprises, contending the restaurant's staff was negligent in serving him improperly cooked fish.

But Carrol Symank, vice president of food safety for Lettuce Entertain You, said the tapeworm didn't come from Shaw's.
"We have done a thorough investigation, and we're confident the restaurant is not the source," he said.

According to the Web site mayoclinic.com, tapeworms can measure up to 50 feet long.

Lawsuit says eatery to blame for 9-foot tapeworm - CNN.com

bkkandrew · 20-08-2008, 04:10 AM

Was it Chitown?

Sir Burr · 20-08-2008, 08:16 AM

How does a tape-worm get into a fish? Thought it mainly comes from pork.

Indoexile · 20-08-2008, 08:31 AM

there are different types of these tapeworms, pork yes, but also beef and fish tapeworms also.

but I'm confused, normally humans ingest the larvae, which then take some time to grow...they can live months or years in a host...

SO how does he 'know' it was this particular shop?

Here is some more info

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Diphyllobothrium latum (fish or broad tapeworm)

Epidemiology
Fish tapeworm infection is distributed worldwide, in the subarctic and temperate regions; it is associated with eating of raw or improperly cooked fresh water fish.

Morphology
This is the longest tapeworm found in man, ranging from 3-10 meters with more than 3000 proglottids. The scolex resembles two almond-shaped leaves and the proglottids are broader than they are long, a morphology reflected in the organism's name. Eggs are 30 x 50 micrometers in size and contain an embryo with 3 pairs of hooklets (figure 4).

Life cycle
Man and other animals are infected by eating uncooked fish that contains plerocercoid larvae (15 x 2 mm) which attach to the small intestinal wall and mature into adult worms in 3 to 5 weeks. Eggs discharged from gravid proglottids in the small intestine are passed in the feces. The egg hatches in fresh water to produce a ciliated coracidium which needs to be ingested by a water flea (Cyclops) where it develops into a procercoid larva. When infected Cyclops are ingested by the freshwater fish, the procercoid larva penetrates the intestinal wall and develops into a plerocercoid larva, infectious to man (figure 3).

Symptoms
Clinical symptoms may be mild, depending on the number of worms. They include abdominal discomfort, loss of weight, loss of appetite and some malnutrition. Anemia and neurological problems associated with vitamin B12 deficiency are seen in heavily infected individuals.

Diagnosis
Diagnosis is based on finding many typical eggs and empty proglottids in feces (Figure 3). A history of raw fish consumption and residence in an endemic locality is helpful.

Treatment and control
Praziquantel is the drug of choice. Freezing for 24 hours, thorough cooking or pickling of fish kills the larvae. Fish reservoirs should be kept free of raw sewage.

Figure 3
Immature eggs are passed in feces

. Under appropriate conditions, the eggs mature (approximately 18 to 20 days)

and yield oncospheres which develop into a coracidia

. After ingestion by a suitable freshwater crustacean (the copepod first intermediate host) the coracidia develop into procercoid larvae

. Following ingestion of the copepod by a suitable second intermediate host, typically minnows and other small freshwater fish, the procercoid larvae are released from the crustacean and migrate into the fish flesh where they develop into a plerocercoid larvae (sparganum)

. The plerocercoid larvae are the infective stage for humans. Because humans do not generally eat undercooked minnows and similar small freshwater fish, these do not represent an important source of infection. Nevertheless, these small second intermediate hosts can be eaten by larger predator species, e.g., trout, perch, walleyed pike

. In this case, the sparganum can migrate to the musculature of the larger predator fish and humans can acquire the disease by eating these later intermediate infected host fish raw or undercooked

. After ingestion of the infected fish, the plerocercoid develop into immature adults and then into mature adult tapeworms which will reside in the small intestine. The adults of D. latum attach to the intestinal mucosa by means of the two bilateral groves (bothria) of their scolex

. The adults can reach more than 10 m in length, with more than 3,000 proglottids. Immature eggs are discharged from the proglottids (up to 1,000,000 eggs per day per worm)

and are passed in the feces

. Eggs appear in the feces 5 to 6 weeks after infection. In addition to humans, many other mammals can also serve as definitive hosts for D. latum. CDC DPDx Parasite Image Library

Figure 4A
Eggs of Diphyllobothrium latum. These eggs are oval or ellipsoidal, with at one end an operculum (arrows) that can be inconspicuous (right). At the opposite (abopercular) end is a small knob that can be barely discernible (left). The eggs are passed in the stool unembryonated. Size range: 58 to 76 µm by 40 to 51 µm. CDC. Image A contributed by Georgia Division of Public Health

Figure 4B
Gravid proglottids of Diphyllobothrium latum. CDC/Dr. Mae Melvin

Figure 4C
Proglottids of Diphyllobothrium latum. The species characteristics are: the proglottid is broader than it is long; size 2 to 4 mm long by 10 to 12 mm wide; uterus coiled in rosette appearance; genital pore at the center of the proglottid. CDC

Figure 4E
Diphyllobothrium latum scolex and gravid proglottids © Dr Peter Darben, Queensland University of Technology clinical parasitology collection. Used with permission

Figure 4D
Proglottids of Diphyllobothrium latum. These proglottids tend to be passed in strands of variable length in the stool. The proglottids tend to be broader than long. CDC. Image contributed by Georgia Division of Public Health.

Figure 4F
Diphyllobothrium latum egg © Dr Peter Darben, Queensland University of Technology clinical parasitology collection. Used with permission

from here Cestodes

Norton · 20-08-2008, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Indoexile

but I'm confused, normally humans ingest the larvae, which then take some time to grow...they can live months or years in a host...

My thoughts the same. Think he will be hard pressed to prove the tape worm came from the restaurant he is suing.

bkkmadness · 20-08-2008, 11:16 AM

Yep, he's talking like he ate the 9 ft tapeworm there.

It would have been in him for a long time before to reach that size.

blackgang · 20-08-2008, 11:38 AM

When we was kids and would fish at a dam a few miles from town and we would run out of fish worms and caught a sucker, we would cut em open and get the tape work out of them and use pieces of it for bait to catch croppie or trout, works good.
But they kept the dam poisoned out so very seldom were there sucker of Chubs in it.
I have never seen a tapeworm in a Salmon, but it says that they are in fresh water fish, But a Salmon lives the first 2 or 3 years in fresh water and then the last 2 to 8 months of it's life in fresh water. I have never caught a salmon in fresh water only at sea.

Megahorn · 20-08-2008, 12:58 PM

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Lettuce Entertain You Enterprises

That's a sue-able offence right there.

blackgang · 20-08-2008, 03:57 PM

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Lettuce Entertain You Enterprises

Sounds quite entertaining alright, pulling a 10 foot tape worm out of your ass..

chitown · 20-08-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by blackgang

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Lettuce Entertain You Enterprises

Sounds quite entertaining alright, pulling a 10 foot tape worm out of your ass..

Lettuce Entertain You Enterprises is based in Chicago. They own many different restaurants. I have only eaten at one. It is supposed to be a Thai restaurant called Big Bowl. Not Thai at all and managed by an Indian. Great food, but not Thai for sure.

This there website.

BigBowl

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Originally Posted by bkkandrew

Was it Chitown?

I wondered why I have lost 25 kilos the last year and a half.

cleddeau · 20-08-2008, 04:26 PM

I shall never eat fish again

blackgang · 20-08-2008, 07:54 PM

I ain't much on raw fish, but if it cooked til it flakes and you can see no worms then I eat ocean fish or cold water mountain trout.
But I have filleted and skinned some bass and snapper type fish caught off shore that had small red worms that come to the skin and coil up as the fish dies in the fish box and you see them when yoyu clean em., but I did them for passengers that wanted them for the meat, I would not eat em.

dirtydog · 20-08-2008, 08:10 PM

Well if this guy wins his case it looks like I might have found a way to get rich, now I was in Chicago about 5 months ago, so my tapeworm will still be a baby one, he's gone for a 9foot one so to impress the judges I need to carefully nuture mine to 11foot, damn thats got to be worth some money

Ivor Biggun · 20-08-2008, 08:56 PM

I'm a raw fish man since eating herrings in Holland in '77. Salmon is the best tasting raw fish by far. Worms or no worms it wont put me off.

Indoexile · 20-08-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ivor Biggun

I'm a raw fish man since eating herrings in Holland in '77.

damn, I love that food!

20-08-2008, 04:02 AM	#1 (permalink)
dirtydog The Dog Last Online: Today 03:21 AM Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Pattaya Posts: 34,501	USA Chicago - 9foot Tapeworm Lawsuit against restaurant Lawsuit says eatery to blame for 9-foot tapeworm CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- A man who contends he got a 9-foot tapeworm after eating undercooked fish has sued a Chicago restaurant. In the lawsuit filed Monday, Anthony Franz said he ordered salmon salad for lunch from Shaw's Crab House in 2006 and fell violently ill. He later passed the giant parasite, which a pathologist determined came from undercooked fish, such as salmon. Franz's lawsuit seeks $100,000 from Shaw's and its parent company, Lettuce Entertain You Enterprises, contending the restaurant's staff was negligent in serving him improperly cooked fish. But Carrol Symank, vice president of food safety for Lettuce Entertain You, said the tapeworm didn't come from Shaw's. "We have done a thorough investigation, and we're confident the restaurant is not the source," he said. According to the Web site mayoclinic.com, tapeworms can measure up to 50 feet long. Lawsuit says eatery to blame for 9-foot tapeworm - CNN.com __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Sir Burr Rhubarb, rhubarb, rhubarb Last Online: 03-12-2008 08:11 AM Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Phuket. Posts: 4,997	How does a tape-worm get into a fish? Thought it mainly comes from pork. Last edited by Sir Burr : 20-08-2008 at 08:35 AM.

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blackgang Senior Member Last Online: Yesterday 08:50 PM Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phetchabun city Posts: 7,023	When we was kids and would fish at a dam a few miles from town and we would run out of fish worms and caught a sucker, we would cut em open and get the tape work out of them and use pieces of it for bait to catch croppie or trout, works good. But they kept the dam poisoned out so very seldom were there sucker of Chubs in it. I have never seen a tapeworm in a Salmon, but it says that they are in fresh water fish, But a Salmon lives the first 2 or 3 years in fresh water and then the last 2 to 8 months of it's life in fresh water. I have never caught a salmon in fresh water only at sea. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Political Correctness: A doctrine, fosteredby a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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bkkmadness The Fishkeeper Last Online: Today 01:01 AM Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangkok Posts: 4,271	Yep, he's talking like he ate the 9 ft tapeworm there. It would have been in him for a long time before to reach that size.

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blackgang Senior Member Last Online: Yesterday 08:50 PM Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phetchabun city Posts: 7,023	I ain't much on raw fish, but if it cooked til it flakes and you can see no worms then I eat ocean fish or cold water mountain trout. But I have filleted and skinned some bass and snapper type fish caught off shore that had small red worms that come to the skin and coil up as the fish dies in the fish box and you see them when yoyu clean em., but I did them for passengers that wanted them for the meat, I would not eat em.

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dirtydog The Dog Last Online: Today 03:21 AM Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Pattaya Posts: 34,501	Well if this guy wins his case it looks like I might have found a way to get rich, now I was in Chicago about 5 months ago, so my tapeworm will still be a baby one, he's gone for a 9foot one so to impress the judges I need to carefully nuture mine to 11foot, damn thats got to be worth some money

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Ivor Biggun Elite Member Last Online: 28-09-2008 10:23 PM Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Buriram Province out in the sticks Posts: 1,918	I'm a raw fish man since eating herrings in Holland in '77. Salmon is the best tasting raw fish by far. Worms or no worms it wont put me off.

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