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    Can't Trust the sick Germanic/Austria fuks!

    Arrested: Austrian man accused of holding daughter in cellar for 24 YEARS and fathering her seven children


    A 73-year-old Austrian man has been arrested on suspicion of holding his daughter hostage in a cellar for 24 years and fathering seven children with her.




    The arrested man was named by police as Josef F and his daughter as 42-year-old Elisabeth F, who had been "missing" since 1984.

    The case came to light after Elisabeth's eldest child fell ill and had to be taken to hospital and doctors appealed for the mother to come forward.

    Elisabeth F is said to have been held hostage in the cellar of this house in Amstetten



    Police said Elisabeth told authorities her father had abused her since she was 11 and had lured her into the basement of the block where the family lived in Amstetten in 1984.

    She said he had drugged and handcuffed her before locking her up in a windowless dungeon.

    It was assumed she had disappeared voluntarily when her parents received a letter from her saying they should not search for her.

    Elisabeth gave birth to seven children, one of whom died shortly after being born, police said.

    They said three of her younger children were each left in the house, the first accompanied by a letter saying Elisabeth was unable to care for the baby herself. All were taken in by Josef and his wife as foster or adopted children.

    "She had been abused continuously during the 24-year-long imprisonment," the police statement said.

    The two oldest children, aged 18 and 19, as well as the youngest aged 5, had been locked up with their mother since birth and had never seen sunlight or received any education, police said.

    "A 19-year-old girl was dropped off at the Amstetten hospital last weekend, she is seriously ill and is fighting for her life," a police spokesman said.

    Doctors appealed for girl's mother to come forward to provide more details about the daughter's medical history.

    Josef then brought Elisabeth and her remaining two children out of the dungeon, telling his wife that their "missing" daughter had chosen to return home.

    After questioning and assurances that she would have no further contact with her father, Elisabeth agreed to make a "comprehensive statement".

    Rosemarie, as well as Elisabeth and her children were receiving psychological counselling.

    DNA samples of all those involved were taken and would be analysed to determine who the father of the children was, police added.

    Police said Josef was in custody but refused to speak about the allegations. His wife Rosemarie had been unaware of what had happened.
    The case is reminiscent of that of Natascha Kampusch, who spent eight years locked up in a windowless cell beneath 44-year-old Woldgang Priklopil's garage in the town of Strasshof, 15 miles outside Vienna, before dashing to freedom in August 2006.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=562377&in_page_id=181 1

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    Sick bastard should be strung up by his dick

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    My God.

    He robbed his daughter & grandchildren of their lives. How can they ever get over trauma like that?

    I can't think of a punishment bad enough for him.

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    Sick. What's more horrifying is that crap like this is probably happening worldwide as we type.

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    ^Mostly in the arab world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkkandrew
    His wife Rosemarie had been unaware of what had happened.
    24 years - same house? Food, bedding, etc... Bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by friscofrankie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bkkandrew
    His wife Rosemarie had been unaware of what had happened.
    24 years - same house? Food, bedding, etc... Bullshit.
    I find that hard to believe as well .

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    No fuckin way she gets a pass.

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    Very sick, but what this have to do with germans and austrians in general?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkkandrew
    The two oldest children, aged 18 and 19, as well as the youngest aged 5, had been locked up with their mother since birth and had never seen sunlight or received any education, police said.
    It all sounds unbelievable.... it might be true, but it just sounds unbelievable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon View Post
    Sick. What's more horrifying is that crap like this is probably happening worldwide as we type.
    Do you really think this is widely happening?

    And on a less serious note, this is not considered normal behaviour in Germany or Austria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabian View Post
    And on a less serious note, this is not considered normal behaviour in Germany or Austria.

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    That is the sickest thing I've heard in a while.

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    There has been a recent spate of incest cases in the news lately. No doubt it will soon become a "human right" to have sex with a member of your immediate family.

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    Everytime I see the BBC report and his face 'Kill the fcker' comes to my lips.'

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    Pictured: Incest father on 'boys holiday' to Thailand as his captives languish

    Pictured: Incest father on 'boys holiday' to Thailand as his captives languish in his secret dungeon thousands of miles away

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=562685&in_page_id=1770&ct= 5

    He paddles in the sea on a Thai beach, seemingly without a care in the world - certainly not for the daughter and grandchildren he has left trapped underground at home.




    These holiday snaps of Josef Fritzl were made public yesterday, as more bizarre details of his crimes emerged.

    According to police, Fritzl claims he locked up his daughter Elisabeth for 24 years to save her from drugs.

    Holiday monster: Evil Fritzl takes a snap during a sunshine holidays with friends

    Smiling jailor: Josep Fritzl grins during a boat-trip on a holiday to Thailand




    During this time, he admits that he submitted her to terrible abuse and she bore him seven children - one of whom died. At the time some of these pictures were taken, in the late 1990s, she was in the cellar with two of their offspring.
    Relaxed: Incest father Fritzl on holiday



    He told detectives: "I locked up Elisabeth. But only in order to protect her against drugs. She was a difficult child."

    There is no suggestion that his daughter - 18 at the time of her imprisonment - was involved with drugs.

    In fact, the retired electrical engineer drugged her himself in order to get her to the basement prison.

    When questioned about the sexual abuse, which began when she was only 11, he admitted he fathered her children and delivered them in the grim surroundings. But he was nonchalant about his behaviour.

    He said: "Yes I did have sex with her, but I haven't for many months now."

    Fritzl also explained why he took three of Elisabeth's children from her to lead a relatively normal life "upstairs" with him and his wife.

    It was because the youngsters were "cry babies" and he was afraid the noise they made would expose his double life, police said.

    In fact no one heard any cries for help from the sound-proof cell.

    Detective Franz Polzer, who is leading the investigation, said: "Even though they shouted, they were not in a position to let anyone hear them."

    The detective told a press conference yesterday that Fritzl went to elaborate lengths to maintain his subterfuge. Last week he forced Elisabeth to write a letter explaining she had decided to return home after supposedly running away to join a cult in 1984.

    The bedroom: Narrow corridors divide the family living quarters beneath the grey concrete villa

    Captive: This tiny door led to the underground labyrinth where the four were held



    He posted it from a location hundreds of miles away.

    "You can be sure that this man left nothing undone in order to deceive the family, his wife, the relatives, the children and everybody around him," added Polzer.

    "He had no scruples to use every possible means to deceive the public and cover up his crime. He was a very cunning man."

    A police source said: "He is showing no sign of regret whatsoever.

    "He is so arrogant that I don't actually think that he thinks he has done anything wrong."

    Fritzl's lawyer Rudolf Mayer was asked if he showed any remorse. In what appears to be an indication that he did not, Mayer replied only: "I cannot say at this point."

    Certainly, Fritzl was happy enough in the late 1990s to take the sunshine break to Thailand with a male friend.



    Secret: The benign facade of Fritzl's house in Amstetten, Austria


    He is thought to have stockpiled food and left the captives to fend for themselves.

    Other holiday snaps released yesterday show him on a trip to the Mediterranean in the late 1970s.

    It is not known whether this was around the time that he began abusing Elisabeth.

    Last night Fritzl, who police believe acted alone without an accomplice, was being held at a police station.

    Doctors said he was not showing suicidal tendencies but he is under 24-hour supervision.

    Sinister: The doorbell into the home Fritzl shared with wife Rosemarie and his three adopted children




    The eminent Austrian psychiatrist Reinhard Haller said: "Fritzl appears to have been driven by pronounced narcissism and a need to exercise power over others - and that may help explain how he got away with the abuse for so long.

    "This man must have been insane and must have felt he was far superior to others."
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    having a hard time with my non-violence and anti death penalties ..........

    especially when you see it having sanook at the beach .

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    When I read about this case, and the concurrent case from the US about that child molesting Mormon cult, an old term springs to mind.

    Stockholm Syndrome.

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    ^^ Quite, what makes it more sickening is that he came HERE while they were in their dungeon!

    Lets take another look at the cvnt:


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    Who supplied food etc whilst he was away?
    His wife?

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    ^Good point!

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    What I find amazing is who actually built this den?

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    Where's Stroll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillbilly View Post
    What I find amazing is who actually built this den?
    It took a few years for him to build it.
    Finished it just before the 18th birthday of his daughter.
    The age she could have left home without his approval.
    Since he started raping her when she was 11, probably something she was considering doing...
    Quite meticulous and good at planning I have to say.
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