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    I was reading an article about Air Italy launching its 737 Max 8's and blow me if they didn't slip this in there...

    In addition, the former Qatar Airways A330-203 A7-ACE (msn 571) (below) has now become EI-GFX and is being painted for Air Italy at Dublin. Qatar Airways is leasing five 260-seat Airbus A330-200s to Air Italy pending the delivery of new Boeing 787-8 Dreamliners in 2019.
    Doesn't say if it's Wet or Dry lease, but it indicates Qatar aren't expecting any movement on the embargo before next year.

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    Hi Harry.... can I ask your source please. Not doubting it at all I would just like a further source for Airline info....cheers

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    ^ Qatar Airwas has a 49% stake in Air Italy and I think the A330's are being wet-leased until the 787's arrive next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toslti View Post
    Hi Harry.... can I ask your source please. Not doubting it at all I would just like a further source for Airline info....cheers
    Wossit worth?

    A bunch of shitcoin?


    Added: Unsurprisingly it came from worldairlinenews.com

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    It looks like Alitalia really is sunk this time
    It escaped once and sold half to Etihad, new bankruptcy filing

    https://thepointsguy.com/2017/05/ali...nkruptcy-2017/

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    "The World Trade Organization today issued its ruling on the European Union appeal of WTO findings that Airbus received illegal subsidies for its commercial airplane programs.
    I don't suppose this fact has anything to do with their "decision"

    U.S. Block of WTO Appeals Body Compromises System, Director Says

    November 8, 2017, 8:37 PM GMT+7

    "As a candidate, Trump called the WTO a “disaster” and threatened to withdraw from it. While he has not followed through as president, in April he ordered a review of all U.S. trade deals, including its participation in the WTO, to see if they would harm national interests and should be revised or terminated. He is renegotiating the North American Free Trade Agreement and pulled the U.S. out of a 12-nation trade pact known as the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

    The Trump administration has blocked any new appointments to the WTO appellate body, saying WTO members must first address systemic problems with the dispute settlement mechanism. In December, the seven-member appellate body will be reduced to four, and members fear if the U.S. continues its obstruction, the appellate body could become completely paralyzed at the end of 2019."

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-17/nafta-countries-to-hold-high-level-talks-over-pact-s-future

    From the WTO press release:

    DS316: European Communities — Measures Affecting Trade in Large Civil Aircraft

    "ACSM Art. 7.8 (remedies – “to remove adverse effects or withdraw the subsidy”):

    The Appellate Body statedthat to the extent it upheld the Panel's findings with respect to actionable subsidies that caused adverse effects or such findings were not been appealed, the Panel's recommendation pursuant to Art. 7.8 stands. Art. 7.8 provides in relevant part that “the Member granting each subsidy found to have resulted in such adverse effects, 'take appropriate steps to remove the adverse effects or ... withdraw the subsidy'”.

    https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e...ds316sum_e.pdf

    http://file:///C:/Users/ADMINI~1/App...mp/316ABRW.pdf


    It appears to revolve around "Members Country/LA/State Funding" enabling a commercial company obtaining a benefit of launch funding (subsidy), which is repaid, as against "commercial funding"
    (subsidy) which may not ever be repaid.

    One could of course argue that the provision of, for example, a Members lengthened airport runway is a multi benefit event. Better airport utilisation businesses contributing more local taxes, providing local and construction employment businesses contributing more local taxes, possible local aerospace component businesses contributing more local taxes or political rhetoric. In other words a members local governments investing in local citizens.

    The alternate is borrowing money at a Members interest rates, decided by a Members directed policies and issued by a Members assisted banks/commercial entities or political reasons, to protect a Members own businesses (MAGA). In other words a Members financiers, backed by a Members assistance, investing for a Members returns either directly, employment, taxes, financial returns or political rhetoric.

    A very thin fag paper between the differences.
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    Air Seoul to open route to Vietnam this week

    Seoul, 18th May 2018 (VNA) - Air Seoul Inc., the budget unit of Asiana Airlines Inc., of the Republic of Korea (RoK) reported on May 17 that it will launch a new route to Da Nang in central Vietnam this week.

    The debut service to Vietnam is set to begin at 10:20 p.m. on May 18 (local time), with the 195-seat A321-200 aircraft being deployed on the route. The service will be available every day, according to the carrier.

    Currently, six other carriers of the RoK operate flights to Da Nang, a destination that draws about 500,000 Koreans a year.

    Air Seoul currently operates six A321 chartered planes -- two configured for 220 passengers and four with 195 seats. With the planes, the low-cost carrier offers services on routes to 16 destinations in five countries - Japan, Cambodia, Malaysia, China and the United States.

    The budget carrier plans to add a seventh A321 plane to its fleet in the second half of this year.


    National News Bureau Of Thailand | Air Seoul to open route to Vietnam this week

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    Cuban plane crash leaves more than 100 dead, state media says


    Firefighters extinguish the flames that engulfed the Boeing 737

    Early report ...

    A Cuban airliner with more than 110 people on board plummeted into a yuca field just after takeoff from Havana's
    international airport.


    More than 100 people were killed in the crash, Cuban broadcaster CubaTV reported.

    Residents said they saw at least some survivors being taken away in ambulances.

    A military officer who declined to provide his name said that there were three survivors in critical condition from the Cubana airlines flight,
    but other officials would not confirm that figure.

    Firefighters rushed to extinguish flames engulfing the Boeing 737, which was meant to be on a short jaunt to the eastern Cuban city
    of Holguin when it went down just after takeoff on Friday, local time, from Jose Marti International Airport.

    Government officials including President Miguel Diaz-Canel rushed to the crash site, along with a large number of emergency medical workers.

    Cuban plane crash leaves more than 100 dead, state media says - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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    U.S. regulators have approved a Buck Rogers makeover of
    Boeing Co.’s revamped 777 jetliner that will allow the tips of its massive wings to fold upward after landing so the plane can park at existing airport gates.




    The new wings, the largest ever created by the Chicago-based planemaker, are taking shape as Boeing builds the first of its 777X jetliners in a factory north of Seattle. They will be the most distinctive-feature for the hulking jets, the first twin-engine models built to haul more than 400 travelers.

    Once the new planes touch down, the tips of the wings will rotate until they’re pointed skyward, which will make it the only commercial jet in widespread use with such a hinged design. A set of locking mechanisms will make it impossible for them to retract while airborne, according to the company.

    Because commercial aircraft design standards didn’t envision a foldable wingspan, U.S. regulators had to craft them from scratch. Those “special conditions” were approved Friday by the Federal Aviation Administration, according to federal documents.


    The Boeing plane’s chief project engineer, Terry Beezhold, called it “this beautiful wing” in a recent
    video made by the company. “This airplane actually will be the most efficient twin-jet ever developed in commercial history,” Beezhold said.


    Instead of aluminum, Boeing will make the new wings out of carbon-fiber composites, which are stronger and lighter than the metal they replace. That technology helps enable the company to extend the width of the wings by 23 feet (7 meters), or 11 percent beyond the existing 212 feet.


    But the wing also created a new problem: The current 777s barely fit into the standard airport gate for long-range, widebody aircraft. The wider wing on the new 777-8 and 777-9 planes would require airports to build new gates to accommodate the plane’s increased size.


    “For that reason, we developed the folding wingtip, so that in flight we can enjoy this very long, efficient span, but it will be able to operate at any airport, any gate, that today’s 777 can service,” Beezhold said.


    The 777’s new wing will make it the company’s widest, passing the 747-8, according to Boeing documents.

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    ’s double-decker A380, the largest passenger jetliner, has a wing that’s 262 feet wide. Its size required some airports to build special gates where it could load passengers.


    The FAA approval for the 777-8 and 777-9 came as Boeing is already assembling the first wings for the new models. The process is delayed because building structural ribs for the wings “has taken longer than expected up front,” program chief Kevin Bartelson told Aviation Week. Bartelson said the company expects to get the process back on schedule by this summer.


    The hinge on the wing created a host of potential safety issues, the FAA said. In particular, several planes have crashed in recent decades when pilots accidentally tried to take off without properly configuring movable panels on wings called flaps. The same thing could happen with the new wingtips, according to the FAA.


    One of the conditions the FAA imposed is that Boeing must have multiple automatic warning systems to ensure pilots won’t ever try lifting off without the wingtips fully extended.


    The agency also said Boeing must demonstrate that the wingtips could never be accidentally unlocked during flight and that “no force or torque can unlatch or unlock the mechanisms.”


    Among the 10 conditions set by FAA, the wings must also be able to withstand wind gusts as high as 75 miles (120 kilometers) an hour on the ground. The agency even set requirements for how to replace the normal lights at the tips of the wings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The agency also said Boeing must demonstrate that the wingtips could never be accidentally unlocked during flight and that “no force or torque can unlatch or unlock the mechanisms.”
    Possibly giving the big red button box to a randomly selected passenger to "keep safe" would be one way of ensuring the pilots, under no circumstances could be tempted/convinced it was the only solution left. Giving it to any steward or stewardess wouldn't work, because one never knows which one is today's Captain's Cutie-pie.

    Another possibility is leaving the big red box at the airport and having another one at each airport the plane could possibly reach.

    The big red button box would also have to be physically connected to an external port, None of this fancy, hackable, wireless, malarkey.

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    Or What they said as SABENA closed

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