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    ^I flew Manila - Taipei - Bkk - Vienna via EVA some years ago. Cattle class, but the service was good. No complaints.

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    Thailand suspends international flights by some Thai airlines


    BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand’s military government has suspended international flights by Thai airlines that have not received new operator certificates from the country’s aviation body, a spokesman said.

    The measure will affect 12 airlines which together have a market share of only 2 percent and so will have little impact on the country’s tourism-dependent economy, the head of the Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand (CAAT) said on Tuesday.


    Thailand’s aviation industry has been under scrutiny after the U.N.’s International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO)downgraded the country in June 2015, giving it a red flag for missing a deadline to resolve significant safety concerns.

    The government’s move comes ahead of an ICAO’s visit to Thailand next week.

    “They want to see a strict measure. The government had to order CAAT to suspend operations of airlines which did not pass assessment,” government spokesman Sansern Kaewkumnerd told reporters.

    The Thai military junta often invokes executive power, known as Article 44, to clear bureaucratic hurdles.

    CAAT was set up in 2015 by the military government to tackle flaws in commercial aviation. It is tasked with auditing and recertifying Thai commercial airlines to make sure they are in line with ICAO standards.

    Chula Sukmanop, director general of CAAT, told Reuters the suspension will affect 12 airlines, including Orient Thai Airlines and Thai Vietjet Air.

    “It’s not that they failed the assessment, but the assessment has not been completed yet,” Chula said.

    “They can resume their flights as soon as they pass the assessment,” he said, adding that the two airlines are expected to resume their international flights as soon as next month.

    The suspension is expected to be lifted for the other airlines by Jan. 31, 2018, Chula said.

    The two airlines named were not immediately available for comment when contacted by Reuters.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-thailand-aviation/thailand-suspends-international-flights-by-some-thai-airlines-idUSKCN1BN13S

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    Thai Airways are introducing their A350 - 900 in September for all those except 'arry, econ. seats are 32" pitch and 18" seat width.

    BKK-LHR A350 and A380 split the flights.

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    It's a lovely plane that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Thai Airways are introducing their A350 - 900 in September for all those except 'arry, econ. seats are 32" pitch and 18" seat width.

    BKK-LHR A350 and A380 split the flights.

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    ^ Thai have been trying to run the A350 down to Melbourne, but still (?) don't have permission from Australia's CASA (Aviation body) to fly that type in the country. The thinking is this is fallout from the 2015 failed ICAO audit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bindog View Post
    ^ Thai have been trying to run the A350 down to Melbourne, but still (?) don't have permission from Australia's CASA (Aviation body) to fly that type in the country. The thinking is this is fallout from the 2015 failed ICAO audit.
    Whose thinking is that?

    It's more likely that they have to spend a significant period of time training flight and cabin crew.

    When Qatar launched the Screamliner, they used on the DOH-BAH route, all of about 25 minutes, because they were able to rattle everyone through the familiarisation in double quick time.

    If it was an ICAO issue, they wouldn't be flying any plane, let alone a brand new one. There are certifications but they should be bog standard.

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    In fact:

    Thai Airways has delayed the debut of its Airbus A350-900 aircraft on its long-haul route to Melbourne, due to “additional inspections and requirements from Australian authorities on Thai’s newest aircraft type”.
    The carrier took delivery of its first A350 at the end of August, and had been due to roster the aircraft onto the Bangkok-Melbourne route in mid-September.
    But in a statement Thai Airways said that the additional checks meant that “the approval process is not able to be completed in time for Thai to operate the maiden flight by September 16, 2016”.
    The carrier said that it now hoped to get approval in time for the start of the winter schedules at the end of October, and said that “In the meantime, Thai will operate the A350 between Bangkok-Chiang Mai and Bangkok-Phuket, which will give passengers in Thailand more opportunities to experience the elegance of the Thai A350”.
    The airline said it would continue to operate a normal schedule to Melbourne, with two daily flights.


    And....
    Bangkok – Melbourne
    TG461/462 eff 01AUG17 Boeing 777-300ER replaces -200ER, 1 daily
    TG465/466 eff 01OCT17 A350-900XWB tentatively scheduled to replace 777-300ER, 1 daily
    So should be quite soon.

    Of course it is Thai. So will probably be delayed and overpriced.


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    Yeah, they've scheduled A350 BKK-MEL twice before and had to postpone due to that “additional inspections and requirements from Australian authorities on Thai’s newest aircraft type”. Third time lucky perhaps.

    Singapore, Cathay and Qatar have had no such delays flying their A350 down here. China Airlines or Air China - the Taiwan one - will join the party next month too I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bindog View Post
    Yeah, they've scheduled A350 BKK-MEL twice before and had to postpone due to that “additional inspections and requirements from Australian authorities on Thai’s newest aircraft type”. Third time lucky perhaps.

    Singapore, Cathay and Qatar have had no such delays flying their A350 down here. China Airlines or Air China - the Taiwan one - will join the party next month too I believe.
    Not unusual, if they are taking their time to train people up. They are using it on the Phuket and Chiang Mai routes at the moment, presumably for exactly that reason.

    I'm guessing pilots have to do a certain number of hours on it before they can fly long haul.

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    a state of the art long haul aircraft is going to be used on commuter routes. Wow. It would seem that are not certified to fly anywhere at this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    a state of the art long haul aircraft is going to be used on commuter routes. Wow. It would seem that are not certified to fly anywhere at this time.
    Like I said, Qatar did it on a 25 minute flight with the B787. The quickest way to train hundreds of cabin crew and others in double quick time.

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    Lives could have been lost in Belfast International take-off incident, report finds


    By Jonathan Bell
    September 20 2017

    A passenger plane could have crashed with multiple fatalities after it hit a runway light at Belfast International Airport, a report has found.


    That was the conclusion of a report by the Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) into an incident on July 21 this year involving a flight to Corfu in the afternoon.


    There were 185 people on board including six crew.


    The AAIB has put out a special bulletin on the incident to inform others so that the same mistake is not made. It said the plane's thrust setting was "significantly below that required".


    An investigation found that outside air temperature data was incorrectly entered into the plane's flight management systems which meant it was slow to accelerate off the runway.


    Witnesses said they noticed the Boeing 737 take a "significant time to lift off before climbing at a very shallow angle".


    A wheel of the plane subsequently hit and damaged a light almost 30 metres off the end of the runway.


    Such was the seriousness of the incident, the AAIB determined it required "in-depth investigation".


    It said that in "slightly different circumstances, this event could have resulted in the loss of the aircraft with multiple fatalities".


    "Examples of such circumstances considered were: the same event taking place on a slightly shorter runway than was actually the case with the aircraft unable to lift off before the end of the runway; obstacles or terrain in the takeoff path; or engine failure ... with a decision by the commander to continue the takeoff."


    The report did not give details of the plane operator. However, it was flown by Sunwing for Thomson. Both have been asked for a comment.


    There is nothing in the report to suggest wrongdoing on the part of Belfast International Airport or Boeing.


    The incident was not reported by aircraft commander, aircraft operator or the tour operator to the AAIB but was reported to the Transportation Safety Board in Canada by the aircraft operator, the report found.


    Air traffic controllers at Belfast International Airport also reported the incident.


    However, because the AAIB only became aware of the incident 58 hours after the event it meant crucial recording material was lost.


    "This has been detrimental to the investigation and may hinder the identification of all the safety issues," the report said.


    The AAIB concluded that the only way for the thrust setting to be wrong was for an incorrect figure for the outside air temperature to be input to the take-off systems. The report said there was no indicator to alert pilots to the error and there had been examples in the past of pilots not noticing slow acceleration for take-off.


    Investigators said that the software was not up-to-date and a later version would reject temperature data if it did not correlate with sensor readings.


    "The updates to the software are offered by Boeing as upgrade service bulletins at nominal cost," the report said.


    The report recommended operators update the flight management software on all Boeing 737 planes. It also advised Boeing to inform operators who use the 737 of the incident in order to highlight the importance of the matter.


    "Given the serious potential consequences of this type of data entry error, it was considered important to inform Boeing 737 operators of this event," the report said.


    Belfast Telegraph Digital


    Lives could have been lost in Belfast International take-off incident, report finds - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

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