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    Quote Originally Posted by MeMock
    The frustration for small operators will be compounded by CASA's decision to stop any affected plane from flying to a maintenance base to have the problem fixed. ``It's going to lead to some aircraft being stranded, mainly in remote areas,'' the spokesman said. The CASA airworthiness directive is absolute. ``Aircraft are not to be repositioned until compliance with airworthiness directive has been accomplished,'' the directive says.
    I bet there'll be a lot of small planes flying without authorisation over the next few days...especially in outback Oz...

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    You can bet on that.

    Imagine being told that you cannot even move your plane so that it can be fixed.

    I also imagine there will be a few bosses doing a lot of flying as well if staff decide they wont fly them because they are unsafe.

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    $9 billion massive new Terminal 5 at Heathrow the answer to Heathrow Hassle & BA's route to good margins?

    Heathrow Terminal 5 Feted as Cure to Airport `Hassle' (Update1)
    By Tracy Alloway
    March 14 (Bloomberg) -- London Heathrow reveals its 4.3 billion-pound ($8.76 billion) Terminal 5 today as Queen Elizabeth II opens the first new passenger building at Europe's busiest airport in 22 years.

    ``Terminal 5 is but one small part of what is required if the U.K. is ever to have an airport infrastructure capable of competing with the rest of the world on equal terms,'' said Howard Wheeldon, an analyst at BGC Partners Ltd. in London. ``A third runway at Heathrow and Terminal 6 that are equally badly needed are still a very long way off.''
    The U.K.'s Civil Aviation Authority said in November there's evidence that transfer passengers are eschewing Heathrow for European hubs such as Amsterdam and Frankfurt, which are less crowded and have more runways.
    Bloomberg.com: U.K. & Ireland

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    from news.com.au yesterday


    A LIGHT plane with four people on board has made an emergency landing at Kununurra Airport.

    A wheel on the Cessna failed to lock into position as the plane, which had earlier taken off from a remote Aboriginal community, approached the airport at about 11am yesterday.

    The pilot circled the town for an hour as emergency services waited on the ground.

    Senior Sergeant Allan Rice, of Kununurra police, said engineers on the ground made the decision to allow the plane to make an emergency landing just after midday.

    "As the plane has touched down its gear has locked into place,'' he said.

    "The plane landed without any drama and a few relieved people have got off safely.''

    Air safety officers are investigating.


    My mate in Kununurra took a photo of the plane. (note the angle of the landing gear)

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    News is what someone, somewhere is trying to suppress - everything else is just advertising.

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    From the BBC

    Alitalia accepts Air France offer

    Alitalia has been losing money for years

    Troubled Italian carrier Alitalia has agreed to be bought by rival Air France for a cut-price 138m euros(106m:$215m) in a move to save the state airline.

    The Italian government, which holds 49.9% of Alitalia, failed to sell the company by auction in 2007.
    Alitalia has lost money for five years, and has struggled to clinch a buyout.
    Air France-KLM offered one share per 160 Alitalia shares, valuing Alitalia at a low-value 0.10 euros a share.
    That is a 81% reduction on Alitalia's current share price.
    The offer includes plans for a 1bn euro capital injection by the Franco-Dutch airline, which says it will also pay 608m euros to buy back Alitalia bonds.
    The proposed purchase could become a hot topic in Italy's general election, being held on 13 and 14 April.

    'National leader'

    Alitalia, which is struggling under 1.2bn euros of debt, is hoping the tie-up will generate significant savings.
    There are a number of hurdles to be overcome before the deal is sealed. Air France-KLM are seeking support for the move from Italian trade unions.

    The Italian government must also agree to sell its shares, and the country's stock market and European Union competition regulators must also give their backing.
    Air France-KLM has a restructuring plan for Alitalia to enable it "to rediscover the means of its development and to consolidate its status as a national leader".
    And it said Alitalia will maintain its national identity within the Air France-KLM group after the takeover, which could be completed by mid-2008.

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    A380 to make UK commercial debut



    The Airbus A380 "super-jumbo" is due to make its European commercial debut when a flight from Singapore lands at London's Heathrow airport on Tuesday.

    Singapore Airlines is the first carrier to operate the new double-decker aircraft on revenue-earning services.
    Flight SQ308 is due to arrive at Heathrow at 1505GMT.

    British Airways has ordered 12 of the airliners, due to be delivered from 2012, while Virgin Atlantic has ordered six, to arrive from 2013.
    The Singapore Airlines flight is expected to have up to 470 passengers on board, each of whom will receive a personalised certificate to commemorate the historic first flight to the UK.
    The carrier has three A380s in service, with 16 more on order, and has been using them on flights between Singapore and Sydney, Australia, since October 2007.

    Environmental claims

    The A380 made its Heathrow debut in May 2006, when a pre-production aircraft arrived to test facilities.

    Heathrow's owner BAA has constructed a special pier at Terminal 3 to accommodate A380s, which will also be flown to the airport by Dubai-based Emirates.
    Pier 6, as it is known, was completed in 2006 at a cost of 105m and provides space for four of the double-deck airliners.
    Other works, costing more than 340m, had to be carried out on the airfield to allow for operations by the world's largest commercial airliner.


    Runways had to be resurfaced, lighting upgraded and taxiways changed in preparation for the A380.

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    Mobile calls on Emirates flights

    Mobile calls on Emirates flights

    Dubai-based airline Emirates has become the first commercial airline to allow passengers to make mobile phone calls during flights.

    Emirates said the first permitted mobile phone call was made on a flight between Dubai and Casablanca.
    The aircraft, an Airbus A340, is fitted with a system which stops mobiles from interfering with a plane's electronics.
    Emirates plans to extend the system to more aircraft and later this year add BlackBerry and other data services.
    According to the airline, the mobile service will only be activated when the aircraft is at cruising altitude and the cabin crew will be able to monitor and control the use of the system.
    Passengers will be able to receive and send text messages, but the crew will be able to prevent voice calls at certain times, such as during night flights.
    Passengers will also be requested to keep their phones on "silent" mode, said the airline.

    High demand

    Emirates said it decided to introduce the use of mobile phones in its fleet after experiencing high demand for the phones already installed in aircraft seats.
    The airline had to obtain approval from international air safety organisations before adopting the system, which was developed by the AeroMobile company.
    "We have gone to considerable lengths to ensure that all safety and regulatory issues have been fully addressed", said AeroMobile Chief Executive Bjorn-Taale Sandberg.
    Emirates flies to more than 60 countries and is owned by the government of Dubai.



    BBC NEWS | Middle East | Mobile calls on Emirates flights

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    This flew over my house yesterday.


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    Santa ! I want this for xmas




    Spitfire MK16 Aircraft
    Asking price: $0 | Closes: Fri, 28 MarVickers-Supermarine Spitfire is offered for sale.You have the opportunity to own one of WW11's most famous fighters. In the 15-years of front-line service was unequalled by any other Allied fighter Aircraft. All together 20,351 Spitfires were built,no fewer than 50 are flying in the world today.This Spitfire is not a composite nor a facsimile but is a genuine factory built aircraft with no equal in New Zealand today,with all original equipment as fitted by the factory in 1944.This aircraft is not currently flying.
    Email:afrl@xtra.co.nz POA.
    When I was in very short pants I decorated the covers of all my schoolbooks with drawings of the Spitfire, cannons blazing and chasing the hun all over the sky.
    I was named after my Uncle who had died over Germany, I convinced everybody that he was Spitfire Pilot, hoping I had inherited some of his heroic attributes, whereas he was a plain ordinary Bomber Navigator.
    What a wonderful machine, a piece of British engineering genius.
    You can have this one for sale at the estimated price of about 5 million.

    http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...145100.htm?p=3

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    LA airport closed by toy grenade
    Article from: Agence France-Presse
    March 27, 2008 06:40am

    A TERMINAL at Los Angeles International Airport was temporarily evacuated early today after luggage scanners detected a toy that looked like a grenade.

    Terminal One was evacuated at 7.20am (1.20am Thursday AEDT) for about 40 minutes before security personnel determined the item at the centre of the alert was a toy, Los Angeles World Airports official Albert Rodriguez said.

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    Stormers 'slap' settles aggressive Qantas passenger

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    March 26, 2008 01:00pm

    THE Stormers will be in enemy territory against the Western Force on Friday night, but the South African rugby team are heroes in the eyes of Qantas crew.

    Smarting from a last-minute loss to the Blues in Auckland, the Stormers were flying from Sydney to Perth on Sunday when an alleged alcohol-affected passenger started causing trouble.

    The cabin crew were having trouble calming the man, so they asked the Stormers' contingent whether they would try to ease his agitation.

    After some initial success by defence coach Brendan Venter, the passenger piped up again - prompting three of the larger Stormers, including young prop Wicus Blaauw, to bring their presence to bear.

    "The crew realised the Stormers are quite big,'' team manager Frikkie Erasmus said.

    "So a few of the boys went back to deal with the guy.

    "He became extremely aggressive and abusive. So that's when one of our number gave him a bit of a slap. That seemed to do the trick.

    "When we landed in Perth the federal police boarded the plane and arrested the passenger and took statements from the players.

    "The crew thanked us for helping out.''

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    Woman claims drink spiked on Jetstar flight

    March 27, 2008 07:45pm

    A WOMAN claims her drink was spiked on a Jetstar flight to Thailand.

    Former flight attendant Anamaree Correia, 34, told the Seven Network she was on a flight from Sydney to Phuket when her bottle of water was spiked.

    She passed out and later woke to find her dress soaked in urine, she said.

    Ms Correia said she was sitting near three Australian soldiers on the flight.

    Jetstar says it has not received a formal complaint from Ms Correia but will investigate the incident if one is made.

    Ms Correia said she was sitting next to a soldier on the flight, with two of his mates in the seats in front.

    "They were in the Australian Army based in Sydney," she told Seven.

    She had a meal and a small glass of wine at the start of the flight, before going to the bathroom.

    "(I) went off to the bathroom and left my water bottle, as everyone does, you don't think anything of it," she said.

    She returned to her seat, drank the water and started to feel ill.

    "I started feeling this really bizarre hot sensation start from the top of my head," she said.

    "I was just completely paralysed and then I passed out."

    Ms Correia said when she woke up, more than an hour later, she was dazed and her dress was soaked in urine.

    "I was mortified, I was just devastated," she said.

    "It was just a big power trip for them.

    "This doesn't just happen in nightclubs, it can happen anywhere."

    Ms Correia said the Jetstar cabin manager did not encourage her to get the authorities involved.

    But Jetstar said Ms Correia was asked during the flight if she wanted to take the matter further and she declined.

    A spokesman said the cabin crew's report for the flight recorded a passenger falling ill and being taken to a curtained crew area.

    She was offered medical assistance during the flight and when it arrived in Thailand, he said.

    "We've received nothing in respect to a formal complaint from the passenger," he said.

    "If a complaint is brought forward we will look into the matter expeditiously."

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    Woman told to remove nipple ring before flight

    March 28, 2008 08:00am

    A WOMAN in the US says she was forced by airport security guards to remove her nipple rings with a pair of pliers before she could board a flight.

    Mandi Hamlin, 37, is demanding a civil rights investigation, as well as an apology from federal security agents after being forced to remove a nipple ring before boarding a flight from Lubbock to Dallas in Texas.

    During a press conference today, Ms Hamlin said she was scanned by a female Transportation Security Administration (TSA) agent using a handheld detector that beeped when it passed in front of her chest.

    Ms Hamlin told the agent she had nipple piercings. The female agent then called over her male colleagues, one of whom said she would have to remove the body piercings.

    Ms Hamlin said she asked if she could display her pierced breasts in private to the female agent but several other male officers told her she could not board her flight until the jewellery was removed.

    Curtain call

    She was taken behind a curtain and managed to remove one bar-shaped nipple piercing but had trouble with the second, a ring.

    “Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her,” Ms Hamlin's lawyer, Gloria Allred, told the director of the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and Liberties.

    Ms Allred, who also represents Paul McCartney's ex-wife Heather Mills, used a nipple ring on a mannequin at the press conference to show what happened.

    “After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove,” said Ms Allred.

    Ms Hamlin said she heard the male security agents snickering as she took out the ring, before being scanned again and eventually allowed on the plane.

    Ms Allred said Ms Hamlin had filed a complaint to the TSA's customer service manager at Lubbock airport, who said the screening was handled properly.

    What the woman had in her nipples

    The lawyer said Ms Hamlin was “publicly humiliated and has undergone an enormous amount of physical pain to have the nipple rings reinserted' because of scar tissue”.

    “The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary,” said Ms Allred. “The last time that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon.”

    Transportation Security Administration (TSA) spokesman Dwayne Baird said he had not heard of the incident.

    Mr Baird said the TSA had no specific policy about body jewellery but if it was big enough to sound an alarm, the person wearing it would not be allowed to pass security until the alarm was investigated.

    "I'd be really curious to know what this woman had in her nipples," Mr Baird said on CBS.

    "Sometimes they have a chain between their nipples, or a chain between their nipples and their belly button. It would have to be made of heavy metal to be detected."

    “I wouldn't wish this experience upon anyone,” said Ms Hamlin.

    “My experience with TSA was a nightmare I had to endure. No one deserves to be treated this way.”

    Ms Allred said the incident followed a similar claim by reality TV star Nicole Richie, who said she had her breasts inspected by security at an airport because of her nipple rings.

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    She doesn't look at all how I imagined...that's her on the right...


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    IF AIRLINES SOLD PAINT

    If you are wondering how our airlines can go bankrupt read this...


    Customer: Hi. How much is your paint?

    Clerk: Well, sir, that all depends on quite a lot of things.

    Customer: Can you give me a guess? Is there an average price?

    Clerk: Our lowest price is $12 a gallon, and we have 60 different prices up to $200 a gallon.

    Customer: What's the difference in the paint?

    Clerk: Oh, there isn't any difference; it's all the same paint.

    Customer: Well, then I'd like some of that $12 paint.

    Clerk: When do you intend to use the paint?

    Customer: I want to paint tomorrow. It's my day off.

    Clerk: Sir, the paint for tomorrow is the $200 paint.

    Customer: When would I have to paint to get the $12 paint?

    Clerk: You would have to start very late at night in about 3 weeks. But you will have to agree to start painting before Friday of that week and continue painting until at least Sunday.

    Customer: You've got to be *&%A#@* kidding!

    Clerk: I'll check and see if we have any paint available.

    Customer: You have shelves FULL of paint! I can see it! ...

    Clerk: But it doesn't mean that we have paint available. We sell only a certain number of gallons on any given weekend. Oh, and by the way, the price per gallon just went to $16. We don't have any more $12 paint.

    Customer: The price went up as we were talking?

    Clerk: Yes, sir. We change the prices and rules hundreds of times a day, and since you haven't actually walked out of the store with your paint yet, we just decided to change. I suggest you purchase your paint as soon as possible. How many gallons do you want?

    Customer: Well, maybe five gallons. Make that six, so I'll have enough.

    Clerk: Oh no, sir, you can't do that. If you buy paint and don't use it there are penalties and possible confiscation of the paint you already have.

    Customer: WHAT?

    Clerk: We can sell enough paint to do your kitchen, bathroom, hall and north bedroom, but if you stop painting before you do the bedroom, you will lose your remaining gallons of paint.

    Customer: What does it matter whether I use all the paint? I already paid you for it!

    Clerk: We make plans based upon the idea that all our paint is used, every drop. If you don't, it causes us all sorts of problems.

    Customer: This is crazy!! I suppose something terrible happens if I don't keep painting until after Saturday night!

    Clerk: Oh yes! Every gallon you bought automatically becomes the $200 paint.

    Customer: But what are all these, "Paint on sale from $10 a liter" signs?

    Clerk: Well that's for our budget paint. It only comes in half-gallons. One $5 half-gallon will do half a room. The second half-gallon to complete the room is $20. None of the cans have labels, some are empty and there are no refunds, even on the empty cans.

    Customer: To hell with this! I'll buy what I need somewhere else!

    Clerk: I don't think so, sir. You may be able to buy paint for your bathroom and bedrooms, and your kitchen and dining room from someone else, but you won't be able to paint your connecting hall and stairway from anyone but us and I should point out, sir, that if you paint in only one direction, it will be $300 a gallon.

    Customer: I thought your most expensive paint was $200!

    Clerk: That's if you paint around the room to the point at which you started. A hallway is different.

    Customer: And if I buy $200 paint for the hall, but only paint in one direction, you'll confiscate the remaining paint.

    Clerk: No, we'll charge you an extra use fee plus the difference on your next gallon of paint. But I believe you're getting it now, sir.

    Customer: You're insane!

    Clerk: Thanks for Painting with XXX.

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    excellent analogy Memock...they would read it of course and think "WTF are they on about..."

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    news.com

    A QANTAS jet from Perth was forced to make a precautionary landing at Adelaide airport yesterday after a passenger noticed a crack in one of the windows.

    "A window in the business class section popped mid-air,'' said the passenger, who did not want to give his name.

    He said aircraft crew assurred passengers the windows were triple strength and the plane was being safely diverted to Adelaide.

    An Australian Transport Safety Bureau spokeswoman said the Boeing 747 was met by emergency services when it landed on the tarmac just after 1pm Perth time.

    She said there were no reported injuries to passengers.

    Qantas confirmed the unplanned landing, saying the diversion to Adelaide was merely ``a precaution''.

    "The plane was diverted to Adelaide as a precaution due to a suspected crack in an external window panel,'' a Qantas spokeswoman said.

    "Engineers are inspecting the aircraft in Adelaide.''

    She said passengers were to be transferred to another flight bound for Sydney late last night.

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    British Airways loses 15-20,000 bags since Thursday at supremely b0rked Heathrow Terminal 5

    The much-ballyhooed opening of Heathrow's 4 billion Terminal 5 has been a debacle. British Airways has canceled 208 flights since Thursday, and has "stranded" between 15,000 and 20,000 bags. Area hotels are crammed with stuck BA passengers and are gouging on pricing, prompting BA to lift its stingy (and possibly illegal) 100 limit on hotels for stuck passengers. This is the terminal with the that just cancelled its crackpot fingerprinting procedure -- passengers are fingerprinted at check-in and at boarding.
    British Airways loses 15-20,000 bags since Thursday at supremely b0rked Heathrow Terminal 5 - Boing Boing

    Jzeesh! And we complain about swampypoom and Thai inefficiency. Get a grip.

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    more on the above from the BBC...certainly seems Bkk wasn't so bad when they first opened..

    Foreign minister loses bags in T5


    It could take some time for the minister to be reunited with his luggage

    An unnamed EU foreign minister has been caught up in the baggage backlog at Heathrow's new Terminal 5, UK Foreign Secretary David Miliband says.
    Writing in his blog, Mr Miliband describes how the minister told him he had lost his bags on his way to an informal meeting in Slovenia.
    The minister who was in transit was told the bags could take weeks to find.
    "He asked me to pass on a message to BA/BAA: 'For goodness' sake, get your act together'," said Mr Miliband.
    The UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office said it would not comment on which minister had been caught up in the disruption.
    A Slovenian foreign ministry spokesman was unaware of any problem but said it may well have been a minister from one of the Baltic states.
    A spokeswoman for Lithuanian Foreign Minister Petras Vaitekunas said that although he had gone through Heathrow he had not had any problems.
    Estonian and Latvian officials did not fly via London.
    The opening of Terminal 5 has led to a backlog of 15,000 bags and much of the luggage has been sent to other airports to be processed

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    Seems they haven't resolved their problems yet, but this woman is caught up in your own importance...
    Naomi bailed after row on plane



    Naomi Campbell was questioned by police after being arrested at Heathrow


    Naomi interviewed

    Naomi Campbell has been released on bail pending further inquiries after being arrested on suspicion of assaulting a police officer.
    The supermodel had been held at Heathrow Airport following an alleged incident at Terminal 5.
    A BAA spokeswoman at Heathrow Airport said: "Police today boarded a British Airways plane and removed a passenger." According to Ms Campbell's spokeswoman, the model had checked in two bags but
    was then told that one had been lost.
    Ms Campbell is reported to have been handcuffed on board the aircraft, which was believed to be heading for America.
    Spokeswoman Annabel Fox said: "Naomi was flying to Los Angeles for a memorial service on Thursday.
    "She arrived at Heathrow Terminal 5 in plenty of time, checked her two bags in and was told they would make the flight.
    "Once on the plane she was told one bag could not be found and was missing.
    "BA decided to resolve this by insisting she leave the flight and then called the police to forcibly eject her from the flight.
    "She was taken to the Heathrow police station and released on police bail. So far as we are aware BA have still failed to offer any explanation as to why her bag went missing at Terminal 5."
    Ms Campbell was discovered at the age of 15 and was the first black model to appear on the covers of Time magazine and both French and British Vogue.

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    You'd think the passengers would be happy that the airline was avoiding possible crashes...but no...

    Fresh chaos for US air passengers


    American Airlines has cancelled nearly 2,500 flights since Tuesday

    The US's biggest airline has cancelled 900 more flights after safety concerns forced it to ground 300 planes - nearly half its passenger-carrying fleet.
    It is the third day of cancellations by American Airlines. Nearly 2,500 flights have been affected, causing delays for 100,000 passengers.
    The action follows an inspectors' warning of problems with wiring repairs on the MD-80 aircraft two weeks ago.
    Other major US carriers have also been forced to ground planes for inspection.
    Alaska Airlines has cancelled more than 40 flights, and Midwest Airlines 10, to inspect their own MD-80 jets.
    Delta Air Lines, which operates 117 of the twin-engined craft, was likely to call off "a handful of flights", the Associated Press reported the airline as saying.
    Full responsibility
    American Airlines has said the cancellations are likely to continue until Saturday.

    Chief Executive Gerard Arpey apologised profusely for the inconvenience to passengers.
    "We are doing everything we possibly can to reaccommodate our customers," he said.
    "It's my fault and I take full responsibility."
    Mr Arpey added that the cancellations would cost the airline "in the tens of millions of dollars".
    The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has been tightening up its inspections since it was discovered last year that fuselage cracks on Southwest planes had gone undetected because of missed inspections.
    The FAA said it had checked several American MD-80s a fortnight ago and decided that improvement work carried out did not meet its standards.

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    ^Yes, the septics are having some aviation woes:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aWEdAAaajrAk&refer=home

    Also:

    Frontier Airlines files for bankruptcy

    Frontier Airlines, a US low fare carrier headquartered in Denver, collapsed into Chapter 11 bankruptcy on Friday as the latest casualty of the growing shake-up of global aviation, as carriers struggle to cope with record oil prices and weakening economic growth.

    Frontier said it had been forced to seek court-administered protection from its creditors in response to a move by its principal credit card processor, First Data, to start withholding “significant proceeds” received from the sale of Frontier tickets.

    The collapse of Frontier into bankruptcy is the starkest illustration to date of the drastic tightening of operating conditions in the US aviation sector, where several leading carriers are already cutting domestic capacity and grounding older aircraft.



    The airline said the action by the credit card company would have drained “a substantial portion” of its available cash almost immediately and may have made it impossible to continue normal operations.

    Frontier said it intended to continue operating its full schedule of flights while in bankruptcy. It said it expected its restructuring in Chapter 11 to last between nine and 18 months.

    “It is truly unfortunate that we have had to take this action,” said Sean Menke, Frontier’s chief executive.

    “We felt that Frontier would be able to withstand the challenges confronting the US airline industry, which include unprecedented and significant increases in the cost of jet fuel and the impact of the credit crisis in the financial markets, without seeking bankruptcy protection.”

    Under the bankruptcy code, the credit card processor would be prohibited from increasing the share of ticket sale proceeds it was withholding.

    “We are prepared to litigate this issue if necessary,” said Mr Menke.

    Frontier’s bankruptcy comes less than a year since the outlook for the US airline industry appeared to be brightening with the emergence of two leading airlines Delta Air Lines and Northwest Airlines from Chapter 11 restructuring.

    At least five US airlines including Skybus, a start-up low-cost short-haul carrier, Aloha Airlines and ATA have collapsed, suffering the same fate as Maxjet Airways, the all-business class, transatlantic carrier, which went into liquidation at the end of December.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee View Post
    Neither our current or next generation aircraft now poised
    > for
    > funding & production can in any way match the performance of this Russian
    > aircraft
    NOW FLYING in any near combat situation. Somehow the bankrupt
    > Russian aircraft industry has out produced our complex politically tainted
    > aerospace industry with this technology marvel.
    Scratch any ideas of
    > close
    > in air-to-air combat with this aircraft in the future .
    Looks really impressive. For sure it would run circles around you in a dog-fight, but who does dog-fights anymore?

    The Yanks proved it a long time ago back in WWII. There used to be a saying; "You can't out-turn a Zero". But they didn't have to out-turn them. They had faster planes. They could line up for a high speed attack run, hit them, and be heading off into the distance negating the superior maneuverability of the enemy.

    Throw into the equation the eye-in-the-sky flying control towers, and the better electronic warfare that the Yanks have, and prolly not many modern air forces will be shaking in their boots.

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    Delta and Northwest agree to combine

    By HARRY R. WEBER, AP Business Writer 18 minutes ago

    ATLANTA - Delta Air Lines Inc. and Northwest Airlines Corp., squeezed by record high fuel prices and a slowing economy, are combining in a stock-swap deal that would create the world's biggest carrier.
    The announcement comes a year after the two carriers emerged from Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. Both carriers are losing money again but are in much better shape than the four much-smaller airlines that have filed for bankruptcy or gone out of business in recent weeks.
    Delta and Northwest agree to combine - Yahoo! News

    I suspect there are a few other struggling airlines out there that may follow suit during this period of rising costs.

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