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    Pilots always tell passengers "If we got you there we did our job"...

    sometimes they deserve a medal...remembering that if the landing wasn't nailed the first time you'd be back in the holding pattern for an hour and then fuel started to play a part...

    Last edited by klongmaster; 05-03-2008 at 03:54 PM.

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    KM. I had dinner with some Airline types in HCMC. Airlines are wet leasing over there at the moment because they cannot get aircraft. The econamy has taken off so quickly that it caught everyone out. I am sure you know that the lead time on a new aircraft is anywhere from 3-6 Years. Wet leasing an aircraft type you do not have in your fleet saves you a bunch when it comes to Crew, Engineer training. Not to mention the spares and tooling inventory. TP.

    PS. There is also a A320 over there in Balkan Holidays Livery wet leased to Pacific Airlines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khun Custard View Post
    Well, by what the video shows.....I'll add Lufthanza to Garuda, China Eastern and a few others who I will not fly with on my perception of the calibre of the pilots.

    What kind of Flight Deck SOP's exist with this company??

    I should have gone around at least 1km out by the bucketing it was recieving.
    Wind socks don't tell lies!!

    "The pilot reacted astondingly"..... LATE!!!
    We had a storm the whole weekend and planes were landing all the the time. I know because I am living in the way the planes take when we have strong wind and that happens quite often.

    If they cease flight operation every time we have strong wind we had rather irregular connections.

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    That picture of the Tenerife crash...am I right in thinking that is not a real picture, but is a recreation?

    I saw a Discovery channel on that crash...Daft Dutch Sod.

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    ^Yea BC: something's not quite right about the pic...

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    ^^^
    Wasn't the visibility so bad, that they didn't find the second plane for a while?

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    That's certainly what they said in the documentary.

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    I assume also that it is a 'recreation' for nova (where the photo came from) who are/have done a doco on it.

    Details here: NOVA | The Deadliest Plane Crash | PBS

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    I departed from LAX last night. It was the usual mad house. First you wait in line to check in. But, in order to get there you have to battle the crowds waiting to have their checkin-bags bags inspected. (More later.) When you check in they give you baggage tags. But then you have to take the baggage to the inspection area. As usual, all the x-ray machines were down so they were hand inspecting each and every bag, including the huge cardboard boxes that seem to be the matched luggage of choice for trans-Pacific passengers.

    This process took an hour and a half. And, all that is waiting in line time. Once you leave your bags you are free to go. Why wait in line? Because there is not enough room in the inspection area to store the bags awaiting inspections. Madness.

    Then it's off to the security check. Liquids in plastic bag. Phone, camera, iPod, laptop all out of the bag into separate little plastic trays. Shoes off and in another plastic tray. This line takes and hour.

    I finally get to the EVA lounge at the announced boarding time. But, the manual luggage inspection has so delayed passengers that I have time for a few G&T's and a couple of bags of peanuts.

    So, from the time I got to the airport to the time I got to the lounge I spent just over three hours waiting in various lines.

    This is madness.

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    Wow that is awful but I am assuming most large airports are like that these days?
    I love flying out of tiny Darwin airport bound for Bangkok because you don't bother turning up until 1 hour before departure. Check straight in, 1 bag check, no one in customs and onto the plane
    News is what someone, somewhere is trying to suppress - everything else is just advertising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeMock
    Wow that is awful but I am assuming most large airports are like that these days?
    I've not been to one where the passenger traffic flow and logistics is as bad as at LAX. For example, passengers enter the terminal where they immediately encounter long lines of people who have already checked in and are waiting for baggage inspection. After you check in you have to backtrack, bucking the traffic of incoming passengers. There's simply no logic to the layout and methodology.

    Another thing: If passengers are going to be required to accompany their bags to the checked baggage inspection, then why not do the security screening of passenger and carry-on bags at the same time?

    Here we have one of the country's busiest airports and it seems that no one has thought through the check-in and security screening procedures as a single continuous process. As a result, you end up with a very inefficient operation that wastes government money and passenger time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buad hai
    I've not been to one where the passenger traffic flow and logistics is as bad as at LAX
    Try London, Heathrow

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    The readers comments here The Sydney Morning Herald Blogs: Travel / The Backpacker Archives are interesting.

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    I received a chain email on the latest Russian Fighter Jet. It's unmatched in the world evidently. Here is the video, and the email comments below.



    Russia now has #1
    > fighter plane in the world... SU-30- Vectored Thrust with Canards.
    >
    > As you watch this airplane, look at the canards moving along side of, and
    > just below the canopy rail. The "canards" are the small wings forward of
    > the main wings. The smoke and contrails provide a sense of the actual
    > flight path, sometimes in reverse direction.
    > This video is of an in-flight demonstration flown by the
    > Russian's-30MK fighter aircraft. You will not believe what you are
    > about to see.
    > The fighter can stall from high speed, stopping forward motion in
    > seconds. (full stall). Then it demonstrates an ability to descend tail
    > first without causing a compressor stall. It can also recover from a flat
    > spin in less than a minute. These maneuver capabilities don't exist in
    > any
    > other aircraft in the world today.. Take a look at the video with the
    > sound
    > up. This aircraft is of concern to U.S. and NATO planners. We don't
    > know
    > which nations will soon be flying the SU-30MK, hopefully C hina isn't one
    > of
    > them..
    >
    > Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Note: Friends worked with
    > advanced aircraft flight control systems and concepts for many years as an
    > extension of stability control and means of control. Canards and vectored
    > thrust were among many concepts examined to extend our fighter aircraft
    > performance. Neither our current or next generation a ircraft now poised
    > for
    > funding & production can in any way match the performance of this Russian
    > aircraft
    NOW FLYING in any near combat situation. Somehow the bankrupt
    > Russian aircraft industry has out produced our complex politically tainted
    > aerospace industry with this technology marvel.
    Scratch any ideas of
    > close
    > in air-to-air combat with this aircraft in the future .

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    Boeing Cries Foul

    The airplane maker will formally challenge a $40 billion contract that was awarded to rival Northrop Grumman and a European ally .

    .... But Boeing will have to be careful what it wishes for. A decision to reverse the award could lead to a backlash from foreign governments, which might boycott Boeing or other U.S. contractors for military projects.

    Boeing Cries Foul

    Free Trade, or Protectionism?

    The Northrop Grumman/ EADS deal was cheaper on price and running costs, better- the aircraft is much more versatile and able to perform other functions such as troop carrying, and they did actually produce a working fuel transfer mechanism to accompany their bid- something Boeing refused to do. They deserved to win the contract.

    Personally, I think this is a no win situation for Boeing. Win or lose, they look like a bunch of sore losers, exploiting parochial, protectionist sentiment for their own gain. And their incessant bleating about the unfairness of Airbus' seed capital from the EU flies out the window.

    Win, they will find themselves quite openly discriminated against on foreign defence contracts- particularly European. Their court case against Airbus before the EU will be chucked out the window- they won't have a leg to stand on anymore. They will also be resented by the Defence Dept in the US, who will effectively have been overridden on a major purchasing decision, made in accordance with fair and open Tender principles.

    Lose, then they are two time Losers plus have exposed their arrogance and hypocricy. And Washingtons gain will just be Alabama's loss- which needs the jobs much more anyway.

    I will follow this one with interest.


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    Funny, when I heard the news of NG winning the bid, I immediately thought it demonstrated a fairness and openness of the DoD contract-awarding system.

    Suppose those words aren't shared by many round these parts. Call me a renegade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    Funny, when I heard the news of NG winning the bid, I immediately thought it demonstrated a fairness and openness of the DoD contract-awarding system.
    Me too. But it isn't the DoD that is behind this.

    It is Boeing, backed up by some members of Congress- unfortunately, many of them Democrat. It's gotten political.

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    It's one of the biggest DoD contracts in a very long time, maybe ever.

    And it went to a rival of the most established aircraft manufacturer in the world -- an American company.

    Of course that has political ramifications.

    And despite all that, it still went to NG. Rings nothing but open, fair, competitive, relatively-transparent to my ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee
    the latest Russian Fighter Jet. It's unmatched in the world evidently
    wow, that's neat. Incredible manouverability..cheers CT...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    Rings nothing but open, fair, competitive, relatively-transparent to my ears.
    And up to this point it is. But now you have Boeing crying foul over a Tender it deservedly lost- they thought that, being Boeing, they had the inside run (they did) and would be awarded the contract as a slam dunk. They were wrong- stories are already emerging of their arrogance throughout the Tender process.

    But thats Boeing for you, a company well known for it's dubious ethics. It is the first to call 'foul, free and open competition' when that suits it's purposes. It is also the first to call for protectionism, political cronyism and subsidies when that suits it's purposes. And of course, it's bribery of foreign officials to get lucrative contracts is well known (in fairness, they all do it), as is it's 'revolving door' policy between defence procurement and lucrative jobs at Boeing.

    Hopefully, the US Congress, judiciary and public will not be fooled- it would be a serious blow to US credibility in trade issues. Not to mention, Mobile Alabama can really use the jobs, and Boeings order book is already oversubscribed- they've got ther hands full getting the much delayed B787 off the ground.

    Leave Defence procurement with the DoD I say- otherwise we'll end up in the same boat as all of those lucrative 'no bid' contracts issued by the Bush administration to Halliburton, Carlyle and the likes.

    The ultimate loser, as always, will be the taxpayer.

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    This "complaint" is not much more than solace for Boeing's share holders. Boeing knows quite well that it CANNOT win all major contracts. DOD has a policy of making sure that competition remains in each area of purchase.

    Boeing already has the lion's share of new/current contracts from gov't agencies. They have yet to start heavy delivery of RPVs and have a backlog of other work yet to be accomplished for several agencies.

    The US gov't needs to keep a balance between the major players in airframe delivery.

    E. G.
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    Don't ask the question!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gibbon View Post
    This "complaint" is not much more than solace for Boeing's share holders. Boeing knows quite well that it CANNOT win all major contracts. DOD has a policy of making sure that competition remains in each area of purchase.
    I agree EG. The issue in Teak Door, however, is not the huge contract awarded to NG, but the resulting, practically frivilous complaint.

    The negativity never ceases to astound me. Nicely done Sabang.

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    Personally, I doubt Boeing wll pull this one off anyway. They were beaten by a better bid. As I say, looks to me like a no win situation for them.

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    I can't recall the last time NG got a contract for an air-frame ( have been away from mil. acft. for a couple of decades), they are more well known for their 'systems' work which has always been pretty good. In fact probably played a huge part in the award.

    Refueling can be a dicey operation and systems quality plays a huge part of it.

    E. G.

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    Safety watchdog CASA grounds 3000 planes

    Article from: AAP

    March 13, 2008 02:36pm

    AS many as 3000 light aircraft - and possibly some small airlines - will be grounded in Australia from midnight after US authorities detected a fault in planes which can cause engine failure.

    The major airlines are not affected but some smaller airlines which ferry miners to remote outposts may be grounded, the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) says.

    Many makes and models are affected by the fuel injection problem which was found by US authorities overnight, a CASA spokesman said.

    ``We have acted on it very quickly,'' the spokesman said.

    The fuel injection problem is easy to fix but potentially deadly, he said.

    ``They won't be on the ground for a huge amount of time (but) it can potentially lead to engine failure.''

    CASA wrote to about 1400 operators this morning, alerting them to the problem.

    US authorities have recorded 18 incidents of a gasket inside the fuel injection system failing on some Lycoming engines, some Teledyne Continental reciprocating engines and some Superior Airparts reciprocating engines.

    The engines need to have been rebuilt, serviced, overhauled, repaired or bought new since August 22, 2006 to be affected by the grounding.

    The frustration for small operators will be compounded by CASA's decision to stop any affected plane from flying to a maintenance base to have the problem fixed.

    ``It's going to lead to some aircraft being stranded, mainly in remote areas,'' the spokesman said.

    The CASA airworthiness directive is absolute.

    ``Aircraft are not to be repositioned until compliance with airworthiness directive has been accomplished,'' the directive says.

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