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    Can Tesla survive this?


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    SHANGHAI (Reuters) - Video of a parked Tesla Inc Model S exploding and a Wall Street downgrade of the electric carmaker’s stock pushed shares down 4 percent on Monday, as it prepared to issue results for a troubled first quarter.

    The video, time stamped Sunday evening and widely shared on China’s Twitter-like Weibo, shows the parked vehicle emitting smoke and bursting into flames seconds later.






    A video purportedly of the aftermath showed a line of three cars completely destroyed.
    Reuters was not immediately able to verify the origins of the video, which Weibo users said was taken in Shanghai.


    There have been at least 14 instances of Tesla cars catching fire since 2013, with the majority occurring after a crash.

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    Early days yet as nothing is proven, but it comes on Telsa'a Investor Day in the USA

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    Unpredictable cars at the best of times.

    Just getting them open can be hard work sometimes.

    Mate of mine has one and you just walk up to it and it opens but sometimes it doesn't.

    Love or hate them, the jury is still out in my case.

    The test drive I had in one was fvcking rapid and throughly enjoyable albeit eerily quite.

    There's a lot of competition out there for electric cars nowadays so Tesla needs to up its game.

    Imho Elon Musk is a cockwomble.

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    are they sure it was not a Tasla ?

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    Chinese stylee

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    Dreamliner batteries?

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    Statistics say Tesla cars burn a lot less frequently than gasoline cars. But who cares about facts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    Statistics say Tesla cars burn a lot less frequently than gasoline cars. But who cares about facts?
    Any chance of some verified stats on that?

    Tesla claims that gasoline powered cars are about 11 times more likely to catch fire than a Tesla.

    Steven Risser, senior research leader at Battelle said still there's not enough data to make valid comparisons at this point.
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    how convenient that the car was parked directly in front of such a high resolution cctv camera.

    one could almost be tempted to think that this was a deliberate act carried out in order to discredit tesla and direct sales in the direction of the chinese makers of electric cars.

    but no.

    the chinese just wouldnt do such a thing.

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    ^ Tax, the thought did cross my mind

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    strange, did anyone noticed how the camera focus is directly on that particular car, not on the car alley

    definitely a setup,

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Can Tesla survive this?
    Ford survived a hell of a lot worse

    https://www.spokesman.com/blogs/auto...let-them-burn/

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    how convenient that the car was parked directly in front of such a high resolution cctv camera.

    one could almost be tempted to think that this was a deliberate act carried out in order to discredit tesla and direct sales in the direction of the chinese makers of electric cars.

    but no.

    the chinese just wouldnt do such a thing.
    You'll have HoHo all over you like a cheap suit for even daring to suggest such a thing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    one could almost be tempted to think that this was a deliberate act carried out in order to discredit tesla and direct sales in the direction of the chinese makers of electric cars.
    Tesla is building a huge factory in China with full support by the Chinese government. I do wonder though if China made battery packs will be as reliable as the battery packs made in the US.

    Picture of the construction site 4 months after breaking ground.

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    ^ and the Krauts with their 'enviromentally friendly as an Auschwitz shower' diesel Volkswagens.

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    The Nips after their Ant Robertson loving Jap crap era are doing ok too

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    Tesla cars are one hundred percent safe from petrol fires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    and the Krauts with their 'eco friendly as an Auschwitz shower' diesel Volkswagens.
    It almost seems like they finally have gotten the message. But I am not holding my breath.

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    Unless Princess has stopped off to fill hers up

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    Mr Musk announced Tesla would convert its electric cars into fully self-driving vehicles next year as part of an audacious plan to create a network of robotic taxis to compete against Uber and other ride-hailing services.

    The vision sketched out on Monday (local time) during an event at Tesla's Silicon Valley headquarters requires several leaps of faith — something the zealous investors and consumers who view Mr Musk as a technological genius often are willing to take.

    But self-driving car experts fear Mr Musk is shirking public safety in an effort to boost Tesla's stock and sell more of the company's electric cars.
    Questions remain about whether the 15-year-old automaker can consistently make money.

    "It sounds like a pipe dream that he's selling people," said Raj Rajkumar, an electrical and computer engineering professor at Carnegie Mellon University.

    "I think it's basically overpromising, which is typical of Elon Musk."

    Mr Musk predicted the technology for fully self-driving Teslas will roll out at some point from April to June next year.

    Then, Tesla would need to get regulatory approval for the fully autonomous cars to drive on roads, something Mr Musk predicted would happen in a few US states by the end of next year.

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    David, very eco but they need to get the software right else you could get diverted to a charging point and wait there for 5 hours.

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    No way next year. They are gradually getting there but it will take time. They keep adding features but until full autonomous driving it is still a long way. Tesla has chosen a radially different approach to other car manufacturers. Some try to cram every detail of a limited area into the car software but are completely useless outside that limited area. Or they need roads equipped with guidance systems to operate on. Tesla wants to be able to use the cars senses, cameras, radar, to operate. Recognize every street sign, find the right lane, see the other cars and drive autonomously that way. Much harder but it will work everywhere. It does not need any road upgrades.

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    The Merc S class has long been a leader in driver aids and these filter down and eventually become industry standard. A long way from driverless there is a lot of impressive tech built into the cars which reads the roads, other surrounding vehicles and general environment.

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    leader in driver aids
    apart from abs systems and reversing cameras, most of the so called drivers aids are no more than complicated driver distractions, designed to bump up the price of the car, keep the dealers busy repairing their faults and fuelling the one upmanship that these deluded pub bores seem to delight in.

    the best driver aid is an aware, alert and sensible driver who is not stupid enough to buy a huge 240kph suv or german luxo barge in order to take his kids the 5 kms to school and then commute at 20kph through traffic jams to work.

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    Tax, I didn't say i thought they were good, impressive some yes, but I agree i prefer to control things myself and find some of the stuff downright intrusive on the cars i've driven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    to buy a huge 240kph suv or german luxo barge in order to take his kids the 5 kms to school and then commute at 20kph through traffic jams to work.
    I've just started my school run. My kids are 5.

    We see a lot of those. Black CX9's, Red Range Rovers with chrome wheels with low profile tyres,
    no tow bars so they ain't pulling boats.

    I mention this and my partner says that I'm jealous. WTF ... there is no money in cars.

    For me, the best bit of kit are the rear parking sensors (I don't have a rear camera).

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    Back to the OP, I'm a fan of electric cars and curious to see what the hydrogen fuel cell has to offer.

    We drive a 12 yo LPG sedan.

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