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    Russia passes law to jail people for 15 days for 'disrespecting' government

    The corrupt dictator tightens his grip ever further. Definitely trying to drag Russia back to the old USSR days.

    This is just the kind of thing an evil, infant gnome would do.

    Russia’s parliament has approved a controversial law that allows courts to jail people for online “disrespect” of government or state officials, including the president, Vladimir Putin.

    The law, which critics say is reminiscent of Soviet-era legislation used to target political dissidents, stipulates fines of up to 100,000 roubles (£1,155) for “indecent” online posts that demonstrate a “blatant disrespect for society, the country, Russia’s official state symbols, the constitution, or the authorities”.

    Repeat offenders can be hit with fines of up to twice this sum, or 15 days behind bars.

    Alexander Verkhovsky, the head of the Moscow-based Sova Centre, which monitors abuse of anti-extremism legislation, said people could face prosecution for online comments such as “Putin is a bastard”, or jokes about parliament. Others expressed concern that the law was so vaguely worded that almost any online criticism of the authorities, including satirical memes, could be construed as “disrespect”.

    “Soon we’ll be telling jokes about the authorities in whispers in the kitchen,” Sergey Shvakin, a Moscow-based lawyer, wrote on Facebook.

    The law, which was authored by Andrei Klishas, a senator from Putin’s ruling United
    Russia party, was criticised by some MPs and government officials. “One of the tasks of government bodies is to calmly hear out criticism of its work,” Alexei Volin, the deputy communications minister, told the Vedomosti newspaper.

    “If we stop calling a fool a fool, he won’t stop being a fool,” said Sergei Ivanov, an MP with the nationalist LDPR party, which usually backs the Kremlin on major issues.


    Klishas denied the law was a form of censorship and said the authorities were “in and of themselves worthy of respect”. Putin is expected to sign the law into force in the coming weeks.

    Parliament also approved separate legislation, likewise authored by Klishin, that will give the authorities powers to block webpages that publish “disrespectful” material or “fake news”. Klishin insisted, however, that the law would not be used to target independent or opposition websites, saying it would not affect “traditional media”.

    The laws come after Putin’s trust ratings hit a 13-year low of 33% in the wake of a vastly unpopular move to increase the national retirement age by five years. The results of January’s poll, carried out by the state-backed Public Opinion Research Centre, represented a decline of 37 percentage points from 2015.

    Putin is thought to be extremely sensitive to perceived insults. One of his first acts when he came to power in 2000 was to target a satirical television show called Kukly (Puppets) that was broadcast by the NTV television station.


    In one episode, aired in January 2000, Putin was depicted as an evil, infant gnome muttering obscenities. Within months, the NTV channel was taken under state control, and jokes about the ex-KGB officer quickly disappeared from Russia’s television screens.
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    Thailand leads, Russia follows.

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    No worse than Britain's efforts to silence citizens and ban visitors they disagree with politically.

    Piss weak if you ask me.

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    Tex, i've asked before but this obsession with the Brits, did you get reamed? You and The Gent could be twins - you are both touching 12 on the obsessive loon meter, give you credit though you swear less and are not a racist bigot.

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    Brittle criticism of the US is 1000x more on this forum than US criticism of Brittles. Why do my observations throw you into a tiz? Are you really that thin-skinned?

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    A Tiz, nah just an observation. Carry on, good to have a hobby, see you're fully immersed now you're back - good oh my man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    No worse than Britain's efforts to silence citizens and ban visitors they disagree with politically.

    Piss weak if you ask me.
    You silly boy.

    BTW I fucking love SNL.

    The way they rip the piss out of baldy orange cunto is hilarious. I bet he wishes he was like his puppetmaster and could jail them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    Brittle criticism of the US is 1000x more on this forum than US criticism of Brittles. Why do my observations throw you into a tiz? Are you really that thin-skinned?
    I've told you a million times - don't exaggerate.

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    ‘We’ve got no alternative but our hatred’ Thousands protest in Moscow against the ‘isolation’ of the Russian Internet

    Over the weekend, Russia’s Libertarian Party staged a public demonstration at Sakharov Prospect in Moscow in support of Internet freedom, as two controversial bills outlawing “fake news” and “insults against state officials” make their way through Parliament. According to monitors from “White Counter,” 15,200 people attended the event. (As usual, the estimate from police was smaller: 6,500 people.) Law enforcement detained more than a dozen demonstrators before the rally even began, including eight activists carrying armfuls of blue balloons, which the authorities seized as “unmanned aerial vehicles.” By the end of the day, 28 people had been detained. Similar demonstrations also took place on March 10 in other cities across the country.

    MORE https://meduza.io/en/feature/2019/03...but-our-hatred

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    eight activists carrying armfuls of blue balloons, which the authorities seized as “unmanned aerial vehicles".
    That would be hilarious if it wasn't so sinister.

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    Where is Omo to enlighten us with the benefits of this new legislation.

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    He is busy blowing up some red balloons(unmanned aerial vehicles).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Where is Omo to enlighten us with the benefits of this new legislation.
    It appears that a legislation group called for a law. The appropriate democratic/legal steps were taken and a new law now exists, to be utilised as appropriate. How quaint.



    Other countries just appear to claim, without any evidence of wrongdoing and utilise a new legal term, "highly likely", they await the required time frame, 10 seconds or whenever a new hot topic is placed before the adoring public to entertain them. Others use "media" to accuse and hide behind, if one has a billion or so one is usually ostracised, but charged, yeh sure.

    Personal, company and foreign countries state entities are subjected to illegal sanctions, false imprisonment, illegal financial penalties or illegal military invasion often follow. Some individuals are held in jails whilst awaiting the necessary legal laws to be created, on the fly, for each accusation. Some even use illegal methods to kidnap suspected criminals in foreign countries. Many disappear into offshore black holes never to be seen again. Some have been in these rendition hells for years, without any legal trial or being charged.

    Personally I prefer an efficient legal system, applying equally to all citizens, all laws upheld with proper established procedures. One that is seen by the citizens of the country to be a followed system, rather than the "make it up as you go", claim a suspect cannot be tried in a court of law because of "national security" or simply dismiss any legal and international treaties, if they no longer perform as expected.

    But some here on TD and some leaders of foreign countries, seem to believe they are "exceptional" and hence above their own and internationally created and observed laws.

    Hope it helped your conscience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reddog View Post
    He is busy taking care of his foreign and local investments and hopefully staying off anyone's "watch list". He will find out how successfully he manages both, in a few weeks time.
    FIFY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    It appears that a legislation group called for a law. The appropriate democratic/legal steps were taken and a new law now exists, to be utilised as appropriate. How quaint.



    Other countries just appear to claim, without any evidence of wrongdoing and utilise a new legal term, "highly likely", they await the required time frame, 10 seconds or whenever a new hot topic is placed before the adoring public to entertain them. Others use "media" to accuse and hide behind, if one has a billion or so one is usually ostracised, but charged, yeh sure.

    Personal, company and foreign countries state entities are subjected to illegal sanctions, false imprisonment, illegal financial penalties or illegal military invasion often follow. Some individuals are held in jails whilst awaiting the necessary legal laws to be created, on the fly, for each accusation. Some even use illegal methods to kidnap suspected criminals in foreign countries. Many disappear into offshore black holes never to be seen again. Some have been in these rendition hells for years, without any legal trial or being charged.

    Personally I prefer an efficient legal system, applying equally to all citizens, all laws upheld with proper established procedures. One that is seen by the citizens of the country to be a followed system, rather than the "make it up as you go", claim a suspect cannot be tried in a court of law because of "national security" or simply dismiss any legal and international treaties, if they no longer perform as expected.

    But some here on TD and some leaders of foreign countries, seem to believe they are "exceptional" and hence above their own and internationally created and observed laws.

    Hope it helped your conscience.

    Just one small flaw in your waffle:

    When someone like Putin invents laws like this, a person saying "I'm not sure doing vote counting away from public view is very transparent" can easily be interpreted as "being disrespectful to the government".

    Which is the point of a fucking shit law like this: To silence dissenters.

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    Talking of dissenters,

    Chelsea manning got sentenced to 35 years just for posting a youtube video that made the US government look bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    Talking of dissenters,

    Chelsea manning got sentenced to 35 years just for posting a youtube video that made the US government look bad.
    Now you dickhead, he got 35 years for breaking laws the dopey c u n t signed up for.

    Som num na.

    Anyway he got out early by getting his dick chopped off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Now you dickhead, he got 35 years for breaking laws the dopey c u n t signed up for.

    Som num na.
    Can you quote the relevant sections of US law that states: Manning had to keep quiet about the mass murder of children, journalists and other civilians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    It appears that a legislation group called for a law. The appropriate democratic/legal steps were taken and a new law now exists, to be utilised as appropriate. How quaint.



    Other countries just appear to claim, without any evidence of wrongdoing and utilise a new legal term, "highly likely", they await the required time frame, 10 seconds or whenever a new hot topic is placed before the adoring public to entertain them. Others use "media" to accuse and hide behind, if one has a billion or so one is usually ostracised, but charged, yeh sure.

    Personal, company and foreign countries state entities are subjected to illegal sanctions, false imprisonment, illegal financial penalties or illegal military invasion often follow. Some individuals are held in jails whilst awaiting the necessary legal laws to be created, on the fly, for each accusation. Some even use illegal methods to kidnap suspected criminals in foreign countries. Many disappear into offshore black holes never to be seen again. Some have been in these rendition hells for years, without any legal trial or being charged.

    Personally I prefer an efficient legal system, applying equally to all citizens, all laws upheld with proper established procedures. One that is seen by the citizens of the country to be a followed system, rather than the "make it up as you go", claim a suspect cannot be tried in a court of law because of "national security" or simply dismiss any legal and international treaties, if they no longer perform as expected.

    But some here on TD and some leaders of foreign countries, seem to believe they are "exceptional" and hence above their own and internationally created and observed laws.

    Hope it helped your conscience.
    Thanks for your comment Omo. For a moment there I was worried you had passed on to that big socialist workers collective in the sky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    When someone like Putin invents laws
    I presume you have a factual timeline of when THE LORD instigated the procedure creating this new law and the devious route he took to achieve his evil ways. PuoSu.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    he got 35 years for breaking laws the dopey c u n t signed up for.
    One presumes the law he broke was not an "invented law".

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Thanks for your comment Omo
    Your welcome. No comments/your own opinions on the content, just praise for the poster. I'll take that as a silent green then.

    I'm more concerned about an upcoming family celebration, than having a cup of tea with THE LORD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    Can you quote the relevant sections of US law that states: Manning had to keep quiet about the mass murder of children, journalists and other civilians?
    What are you fucking dribbling on about?

    Go and read you stupid little boy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Manning

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    I presume you have a factual timeline of when THE LORD instigated the procedure creating this new law and the devious route he took to achieve his evil ways. PuoSu.
    So you don't think Putin ordered this? You dick.


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    Put up your "evidence" for me to inspect.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Put up your "evidence" for me to inspect.


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    Thought so, not an inkling of the facts just prejudice.

    I'm sure you gave Butterfly a hard on.

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