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    George Pell, Catholic Cardinal, charged with historical sexual assault offences

    Australia's most senior Catholic cleric, Cardinal George Pell, has been charged with historical sexual assault offences and
    ordered to appear in a Melbourne court.

    Key points:
    • Charges involve multiple complainants
    • Pell has always maintained his innocence and strenuously denied any wrongdoing
    • Victoria Police says charging process has involved "common and standard practice"
    Victoria Police Deputy Commissioner Shane Patton said the Vatican-based cardinal was required to appear at the Melbourne
    Magistrates' Court on July 18.

    He said the charges were served on Pell's legal representatives in Melbourne, and that they involved multiple complainants.

    Last July, police confirmed they were formally investigating complaints about offences alleged to have occurred in Ballarat in the 1970s.
    Pell has always maintained his innocence and strenuously denied any wrongdoing.
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    Where is Cardinal Pell now ? Might be a tough go extraditing from the Vatican City.

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    Man of the cloth. Charlatan.


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    UPDATE ...

    Cardinal George Pell appears at Melbourne Magistrates' Court to fight historical sexual offence allegations



    Cardinal George Pell will face a four-week committal hearing next March as he fights historical sexual offence allegations.

    Australia's most senior Catholic cleric has faced his second hearing at the Melbourne Magistrates' Court, after he was charged by Victoria Police
    detectives in June with offences involving multiple complainants.

    The exact detail and nature of the charges have not been made public.

    The court heard about 50 witnesses will give evidence at Cardinal Pell's committal hearing, which will determine whether there is enough evidence
    to commit him to stand trial.

    Cardinal Pell strenuously denies the allegations.

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    I hope they've got his passport before the kiddie fiddlers try and hide him.

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    Guilty: George Pell's sexual abuse of choirboys revealed

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    Cardinal George Pell was last year convicted of sexually abusing two choirboys in 1996, but the Victorian County Court has not allowed media outlets to report the verdict before now.
    Pell is Australia's most senior Catholic cleric and he now faces the prospect of prison time.
    His five-week trial ended last December, when a jury found Pell guilty of sexual penetration of a child under 16, as well as four counts of committing an indecent act with, or in the presence, of a child.

    It is likely Pell will be remanded in custody after a plea hearing on Wednesday, before he is sentenced next week.
    What did he do?

    The verdict relates to two different incidents that took place when he was the archbishop of Melbourne.
    Pell abused the two choirboys at Melbourne's St Patrick's Cathedral after celebrating one of his first Sunday masses as archbishop.
    He abused one of the boys a second time, two months later.



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    Evidence of the abuse came from just one of the choirboys. The other victim died in 2014 and never made a complaint to his family or police.
    Pell's surviving victim can't be identified and his evidence was given in a closed court.

    But parts of his testimony were read out by the prosecutor and Pell's defence barrister during their closing arguments to the jury.


    How did it happen?

    The former choirboy told the trial that Pell caught him and a friend swigging altar wine in the priest's sacristy, which is a room used by the priests to change into their robes.
    It was off-limits to the choirboys, who had slipped away from the choir procession at the end of mass.

    The former choirboy gave evidence Pell had planted himself in the doorway and said something like "what are you doing here?" or "you're in trouble".
    "There was this moment where we all just froze and then he undid his trousers or his belt, like he started moving underneath his robes," the victim said.

    Pell then pulled one of the boys aside and pushed his head down to his exposed penis.
    Pell then forced the other choirboy to perform oral sex on him before fondling him as he masturbated.

    That former choirboy told the court that, two months later, Pell molested him in a brief incident in a corridor at the back of the cathedral after mass.
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    Catholic caught kiddie fiddling.

    We need to hear that a lot more often.

    And they need jailing for life, and not in solitary either. They deserve to live in fear every waking hour, the fucking paedo scum.

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    1 down....how many more to go?

    lock him up in general population....he should get some justice there

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    Yeah, read that and was looking for one of Tom's threads to add this story to it.
    3rd highest Vatican official.
    The details of his abuse as described in his latest trial are unsurprisingly horrific: actual rape (indicating not dumb compliance but violent forcefulness) and forcing the boy's head down onto his penis.
    All Catholics shoud be saying "rot in hell, Pell" (they won't), but since I don't believe in hell, I'll second Harry's motion and send him to general population.
    See what divine intervention will do.

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    Pell was the 3rd most senior Catholic.

    The Pope being the top of that tree.

    Huge scalp.


    BTW, he is appealing the decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    BTW, he is appealing the decision
    The devil made me do it might work.

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    Kill these kiddie-fiddling bible-bashing kunts. Kill them with fire.

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    The sentence could involve creative use of this golden shepherd's staff.



    To set a proctological punishment precedence


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    Brutal and dogmatic, George Pell waged war on sex – even as he abused children


    This prince of the church was a superb political operator. Listing sins and condemning sinners kept him in the news




    He was big on sex. Inside and outside the church, George Pell built his career preaching the sex rules of his faith. Intransigence made Pell a celebrity. Standing up to the zeitgeist, demanding obedience, listing sins and condemning sinners kept him in the news.


    He was always there with a crisp, dogmatic grab. Universal innocence? “A dangerous myth.” Original sin? “Alive and flourishing.” Drug taking? “Wrong and sinful.” IVF for single mothers? “We are on the verge of creating a whole new generation of stolen children.” That created a most satisfying uproar.




    He accused his own church of being “frightened to put forward the hard teachings of Christ”. That he never hesitated earned him few friends, many enemies and high office.


    As an archbishop in Melbourne and a cardinal in Sydney Pell poured his energies into combating contraception, homosexuality, genetic engineering, divorce, equal marriage and abortion.


    He was particularly brutal to gay people. When a wreath was laid outside St Patrick’s Cathedral in Melbourne in memory of gay students in Catholic schools driven to suicide, Pell’s disdain was absolute.


    “I haven’t got good statistics on the reasons for those suicides,” he declared. “If they are connected with homosexuality, it is another reason to be discouraging people going in that direction. Homosexual activity is a much greater health hazard than smoking.”


    The correctives that rained down on him from secular authorities on smoking, Aids and youth suicide left Pell unchastened. He laid the blame for their troubles at the door of gay people themselves. He reasoned that if they didn’t keep recruiting “new members to the subculture”, there would be no gay youths to commit suicide.


    He kept it simple and brutal.


    Pell in silhouette at World Youth Day 2008 in Sydney
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    Pell was the son of a Ballarat publican who ran an SP betting operation from the front bar of the Royal Oak. The boy was picked as a leader early. He studied in Rome, was ordained in St Peter’s and, after taking a doctorate at Oxford, came back to Ballarat, which was a hellhole of paedophile abuse.


    Miraculously, he survived his years as a priest on his home turf without ever noticing enough to raise the alarm. This was good for his career. He would admit years later he saw a few things and heard a few rumours but didn’t ask questions. “It was a sad story and of not much interest to me.”


    Australia never shared Rome’s high opinion of George Pell. That such an uncongenial, and at times embarrassing, figure was appointed auxiliary bishop of Melbourne in 1987 distressed many of the faithful in his home country. But these were the early days of John Paul II’s papacy, when such men were being rewarded around the world. A mighty church was finding its feet again.


    Pell did nothing to curb paedophile priests in his years as auxiliary bishop, though the predations of some of the worst of them were being reported to him. He didn’t know enough, he would claim, and he didn’t have the authority to act. Despite the pleas of parents and teachers, Pell left mad Father Searson, toting a gun and terrifying children, in charge of the primary school in Doveton.


    If you wanted to block inquiries into the abuse of children for as long as humanly possible, Pell was your man
    His elevation to archbishop shocked Melbourne Catholics. But he didn’t need to be loved by them. He didn’t need their votes. His authority came from Rome, where he sat on a number of councils policing church doctrine. These were the years the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith worked up fresh hard teachings to revile homosexuals.


    Pell earned his stripes in the war on sex.


    He was a member of the Pontifical Council for the Family, which warned the governments of the world not to give rights to gays for to do so was to “deny a psychological problem which makes homosexuality against the social fabric … ”.


    By this time, Pell had moved to Sydney and, in due course, became a cardinal. The story of his rise makes no sense without acknowledging that this prince of the church was also a fine administrator and a superb political operator.




    Pell was as at home in the big end of town. He had a magical capacity to win money from governments.




    If you wanted to build a network of Catholic universities, Pell was your man. If you wanted to save hundreds of millions of dollars that victims of abuse might win in the courts, Pell was your man. If you wanted to block official inquiries into the abuse of children by clerics for as long as humanly possible, Pell was your man.


    When the inquiry came – the first national inquiry in the world – its examination of the faults of all the faiths was forensic and damning. The Catholic church came out of the royal commission into the institutional responses to child abuse covered in shame.




    'Disgraceful rubbish': the moment George Pell reacted to child abuse allegations
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    Pell gave evidence several times. He cuts an awkward figure in a witness box. Answering questions is not his natural metier. But the commissioners only looked at Pell’s sins of omission, his failures over the years to protect children, to discipline priests and to comfort the abused.


    They did not revisit the allegations that, as a seminarian, he had abused boys at a camp on Phillip Island. In his early days as archbishop of Sydney, Pell had to stand aside for a few months while the church examined the claims of one of those former altar boys.


    The verdict of the retired judge was: not proven but not dismissed.


    The commissioners grilled Pell instead on the record of the church. He admitted faults. He expressed regrets. He boasted the work of his Melbourne Response in addressing the needs of victims. He made only a grudging admission that celibacy might be “a factor” in the abuse of children.


    Pell stood for a deeper truth: the sacred mission of not having priestly sex at all.




    Five times guilty: how George Pell's child-abusing past caught up with him in courtroom 4.3
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    What hymns of praise this man has sung to that over the years. No sex is sacred. No sex is an offering to Christ. No sex proves our first love is to God and not one another. No sex releases energy and spirit for the service of man. No sex leaves the heart undivided. No sex makes each priest another Christ called to spiritual paternity through the sacraments.


    That sort of stuff impressed John Paul II and Benedict XVI immensely, but Francis takes a rather more jaundiced view. “Behind rigidity something always lies hidden,” he said. “In many cases, a double life.”


    The world can now know that a little over 20 years ago, in Pell’s first months as archbishop of Melbourne, this scourge of sex was abusing choirboys.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australi...bused-children

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    He was big on sex. Inside and outside the church, George Pell built his career preaching the sex rules of his faith. Intransigence made Pell a celebrity. Standing up to the zeitgeist, demanding obedience, listing sins and condemning sinners kept him in the news.


    He was always there with a crisp, dogmatic grab. Universal innocence? “A dangerous myth.” Original sin? “Alive and flourishing.”
    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    He was particularly brutal to gay people. When a wreath was laid outside St Patrick’s Cathedral in Melbourne in memory of gay students in Catholic schools driven to suicide, Pell’s disdain was absolute.


    “I haven’t got good statistics on the reasons for those suicides,” he declared. “If they are connected with homosexuality, it is another reason to be discouraging people going in that direction. Homosexual activity is a much greater health hazard than smoking.”
    This brings starkly to mind Tom's most recent thread about the book or article regarding the Vatican being gayer than San Francisco. One of the assertions in the article that the author made was that not only was homosexuality rife in the upper echelons, but that the more vociferously anti-gay the official was, the more likely he was gay himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    the more vociferously anti-gay the official was, the more likely he was gay himself.
    We know that from members of the Republican party. They're all as bent as a nine dollar note.

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    George Pell regardless of the current conviction being appealed was complicit in covering up pedophile priests for years. An associate of his whom he supported was a priest named Risdale a notorious pedophile priest. Without these charges he is still guilty of being an accessory and deserves to be removed from office with a lengthy gaol sentence.
    It is clear that a priest must never be left alone with children under any circumstance and must be accompanied at all times near children and this needs to be an edict from the church as well as the law.
    A simple solution if they genuinely wish to be ordained as a celibate priest is to be castrated immediately after ordination as a show of commitment to their chosen path.
    Further reading on Pell's complicity with these creatures.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/pell...02-gdfby5.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    We know that from members of the Republican party. They're all as bent as a nine dollar note.
    We know it too from the homophobe TD members
    (I won't mention the name of someone who has a fetish for wearing lady's knickers and high heels and is very outspoken about homosexuaility )

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    Sigh ...


    George Pell plaque to stay at Sydney's St Mary's Cathedral despite child sex offences conviction



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    The plaque of George Pell sits alongside other Sydney archbishops at St Mary's Cathedral.

    A plaque celebrating Cardinal George Pell's tenure as Archbishop of Sydney will remain on display at St Mary's Cathedral steps.

    Key points:
    • A spokesperson for the Catholic Archdiocese of Sydney defended the decision to keep the plaque
    • The plaque hangs on a wall alongside those of other Sydney Archbishops
    • In the days following Pell's guilty verdict in December, the plaque was covered and cordoned off



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    St Mary's Cathedral in Sydney the day after George Pell conviction revealed. February 27, 2019.

    Yesterday, it was revealed Pell was last year convicted of sexually abusing two choirboys in 1996 after the Victorian County Court lifted a suppression order, which prohibited any reporting of the case.
    A spokesperson for the Catholic Archdiocese of Sydney said the plaque, which states the dates Pell was Archbishop of Sydney, will remain while his appeal process is completed.


    "There are eight small plaques in total, one for each of the eight former Archbishops of Sydney stating their tenure," they said in a written statement.
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    A simple solution if they genuinely wish to be ordained as a celibate priest is to be castrated immediately after ordination as a show of commitment to their chosen path.
    Further reading on Pell's complicity with these creatures.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/pell...02-gdfby5.html[/QUOTE]
    they also need their mouths stapled and hands amputated.

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    ...Pell--->cell--->Hell...bet he's sorry he's a Catholic now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by headhunter View Post
    they also need their mouths stapled and hands amputated.
    Agreed, though that could make holy communion challenging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...Pell--->cell--->Hell...bet he's sorry he's a Catholic now...
    Nah, it's one of the perks of the job: Confess (with absolute confidentiality) and recieve absolution.
    It's another aspect of the cult that needs addressing.

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