Thread: U.S., UK conduct first joint drills in contested South China Sea

Should get the Chinkies (and of course their toadying sycophant Ohoh) squealing...

TOKYO (Reuters) - The United States and Britain have conducted their first joint naval drills in the disputed South China Sea since China built island bases there, the two navies said on Wednesday, as Washington seeks help from allies to keep pressure on Beijing.


A U.S. Navy guided missile destroyer the USS McCampbell, which is based in Japan, and a Royal Navy frigate, HMS Argyll, which is on a tour of Asia, conducted communication drills and other exercises from Friday to Wednesday “to address common security priorities”, the U.S. Navy said in a press release.

“There’s no record in recent history of operations together, specifically in the South China Sea,” a U.S. Navy spokesman said.

No such joint drills have been conducted there since at least 2010, he added.


The exercise comes after another British warship, the 22,000 ton HMS Albion, sailed close to the Paracel island chain claimed by China in the South China Sea in August.

It was the first time Britain had directly challenged China’s growing control of the strategic waterway and came after the United States said it would like to see more international participation in such action. Beijing accused London of engaging in “provocation”.

The McCampbell this month passed within 12 nautical miles of the same island chain in a freedom of navigation operation, which the U.S. Navy said was to “challenge excessive maritime claims”.



China’s claims in the South China Sea, through which some $3 trillion of shipborne trade passes each year, are contested by Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam. Neither the United States of Britain has territorial claims in the area.

Pictures of China’s island bases released last year appear to show truck-mounted surface-to-air missiles or anti-ship cruise missiles. China’s air force has also landed bombers on disputed islands as part of a training exercises in the region.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-ru...PA0VF?rpc=401&

Bloody trouble-makers.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The McCampbell this month passed within 12 nautical miles of the same island chain in a freedom of navigation operation,

Grow some balls. Get in close and anchor up for a few days. Get the sailors to pull brown eyes every hour on the hour. Make a point. I seriously doubt China would fire first because that would result in the years of work creating the islands being blown to smithereens, and they know it.

I do wonder how they decide just how close to get as I'm sure the 12 nm was not arbitrary.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Grow some balls. Get in close and anchor up for a few days. Get the sailors to pull brown eyes every hour on the hour. Make a point. I seriously doubt China would fire first because that would result in the years of work creating the islands being blown to smithereens, and they know it.

I do wonder how they decide just how close to get as I'm sure the 12 nm was not arbitrary.

They don't fucking own it, so anyone can land on it.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

They don't fucking own it, so anyone can land on it.

Exactly. But possesion...9/10s etc from China's perspective. I think if anyone landed it would be an international incident.
I would like to see the combined US and British navies escort a Philipino, Vietnamese, Bruneian, Malaysian and Taiwanese delegation to each respective claimed island and plant their respective flags and say to China, "watcha gonna do?".

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

They don't fucking own it, so anyone can land on it.

They own it in as much as ameristan "owns" part of North America and the UK "owns" a small island, north of France.

In other words, try and land and expect to be repulsed back into a blood coloured sea and a sinking ship.The bubble of supremacy has been popped.

Will a Jack Tar land on "it", plant a Union Jack and claim it for Lizze.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

I do wonder how they decide just how close to get as I'm sure the 12 nm was not arbitrary.

Originally Posted by OhOh

12 nautical miles internationally recognised

Ahhh, of course. So the West is respecting territorial claims of China.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

They don't fucking own it, so anyone can land on it.

In that case, following your own logic ..the Chinese have every right to be there.

However China does own the materials protruding from the sea.
Can anyone just land on a US aircraft carrier because it happens to be in international waters?

As for ownership, these islands are just off the coast of China and 10s of thousands of miles from the US/UK. so it stands to reason China has the greater claim, while the US/UK have no grounds for claim whatsoever.

The fact these island are located in the South China Sea is kind of self-explanatory.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

They don't fucking own it, so anyone can land on it.

Originally Posted by foobar

In that case, following your own logic ..the Chinese have every right to be there.

No logic there. All the disputed islands and reefs belong to PI, VN et al. What Harry meant was anyone with the blessing of the non-Chinese owners.

Originally Posted by foobar

However China does own the materials protruding from the sea.

Which they must remove.

Originally Posted by foobar

Can anyone just land on a US aircraft carrier because it happens to be in international waters?

Really dumb argument.

Originally Posted by foobar

The fact these island are located in the South China Sea is kind of self-explanatory.

Another really dumb argument. Following your "logic", every bit of land and reef in the Indian Ocean belongs to India.

The extended and pathetic empire continues on....

Originally Posted by Maanaam

I would like to see the combined US and British navies escort a Philipino, Vietnamese, Bruneian, Malaysian and Taiwanese delegation to each respective claimed island and plant their respective flags and say to China, "watcha gonna do?".

That donkey has already been investigated. Unfortunately the results show the ASEAN movers and shakers have already made their appraisal.

"The survey by the ISEAS-Yusof Ishak Institute, affiliated with the Singapore government, polled 1,008 respondents from all ten nations of the ASEAN grouping, drawn from government, academic and business communities, civil society and the media.

Six out of ten respondents said U.S. influence globally had deteriorated from a year ago and two-thirds believed U.S. engagement with Southeast Asia declined. About a third said they had little or no confidence in the U.S. as a strategic partner and provider of regional security."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKCN1P00GP

But look for another local "leader", fix the elections, proclaim him/her the new emperor........

Similar to South America,the ME, .........

Or are they all now realising the paucity in ameristani "promises". Some are still amenable to a few trillion momentarily in an offshore bank account

Originally Posted by OhOh

That donkey has already been investigated. Unfortunately the results show the ASEAN movers and shakers have already made their appraisal.

"The survey by the ISEAS-Yusof Ishak Institute, affiliated with the Singapore government, polled 1,008 respondents from all ten nations of the ASEAN grouping, drawn from government, academic and business communities, civil society and the media.

Six out of ten respondents said U.S. influence globally had deteriorated from a year ago and two-thirds believed U.S. engagement with Southeast Asia declined. About a third said they had little or no confidence in the U.S. as a strategic partner and provider of regional security."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKCN1P00GP

But look for another local "leader", fix the elections, proclaim him/her the new emperor........

Similar to South America,the ME, .........

Or are they all now realising the paucity in ameristani "promises". Some are still amenable to a few trillion momentarily in an offshore bank account

None of that is surprising while they have a clueless, baldy orange cunto in charge.

He has no fucking idea what he's doing.

Damn Chinks.
They're everywhere.



....and overwhelm with historical influence.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

All the disputed islands and reefs belong to PI, VN et al.

It doesn't sound like ownership has been established if they are indeed disputed.

Anyway Manny, you should be more worried about your own legality in regards to working in Thailand without a work visa ...than some disputed islands in the South China Sea.

Some people might say you shoulnd't be in Thailand....

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

have a clueless, baldy orange cunto in charge.

The previous incumbents did?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

because the vindictive little slopes bastards could use it to cut Japan, Korea and Taiwan off from westbound trade if they so felt like it

Of course they could, possibly try in some future time. Currently they are trying by peaceful persuasion and offering an alternative win/win solution.

Unlike the ameristani public utterances of blockading countries physically, financially, by starvation or just bombing the shit out of them today, tomorrow .....

Ryan Zinke: Naval blockade is an option for dealing with Russia

"Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke says the U.S. Navy can blockade Russia if needed to keep it from controlling energy supplies in the Middle East as it does in Europe. "The United States has that ability, with our Navy, to make sure the sea lanes are open, and, if necessary, to blockade ... to make sure that their energy does not go to market," Zinke said on Friday at an industry event in Pittsburgh hosted by the Consumer Energy Alliance."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...ng-with-russia

Trump threatens to ‘devastate’ Turkish economy if it attacks Kurdish militants in Syria


"Donald Trump threatened to “devastate” Turkey’s economy if its attacks Kurdish militants in Syria after the planned withdrawal of US troops from Syria.

The president’s extraordinary warning to a Nato ally saw the Turkish lira slide against the dollar and prompted backlash from Ankara.
Mr Trump said on Twitter the US was starting the military pull-out from Syria, but would continue its offensives against remaining Isis fighters there.

“Will attack again from existing nearby base if it reforms,” he wrote. “Will devastate Turkey economically if they hit Kurds. Create 20 mile safe zone...Likewise, do not want the Kurds to provoke Turkey.”


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/trump-turkey-economy-kurdish-militant-syria-erdogan-devastate-threat-twitter-ypg-sanctions-tariffs-a8726506.html


But you just keep painting everyone with the same old brush.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Of course they could, possibly try in some future time. Currently they are trying by peaceful persuasion and offering an alternative win/win solution.

Unlike the ameristani public utterances of blockading countries physically, financially, by starvation or just bombing the shit out of them today, tomorrow .....

Ryan Zinke: Naval blockade is an option for dealing with Russia

"Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke says the U.S. Navy can blockade Russia if needed to keep it from controlling energy supplies in the Middle East as it does in Europe. "The United States has that ability, with our Navy, to make sure the sea lanes are open, and, if necessary, to blockade ... to make sure that their energy does not go to market," Zinke said on Friday at an industry event in Pittsburgh hosted by the Consumer Energy Alliance."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...ng-with-russia

Trump threatens to ‘devastate’ Turkish economy if it attacks Kurdish militants in Syria


"Donald Trump threatened to “devastate” Turkey’s economy if its attacks Kurdish militants in Syria after the planned withdrawal of US troops from Syria.

The president’s extraordinary warning to a Nato ally saw the Turkish lira slide against the dollar and prompted backlash from Ankara.
Mr Trump said on Twitter the US was starting the military pull-out from Syria, but would continue its offensives against remaining Isis fighters there.

“Will attack again from existing nearby base if it reforms,” he wrote. “Will devastate Turkey economically if they hit Kurds. Create 20 mile safe zone...Likewise, do not want the Kurds to provoke Turkey.”


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/trump-turkey-economy-kurdish-militant-syria-erdogan-devastate-threat-twitter-ypg-sanctions-tariffs-a8726506.html


But you just keep painting everyone with the same old brush.

I wouldn't worry about either of them Ohoh, they're a pair of clueless c u n t s.

Originally Posted by foobar

Thanks for the confirming the Chinese do have a right to be there.

blah blah blah

Although, thanks for confirming once again you are a nasty little racist bigot with an irrational fear of Chinese people.

The thing that makes your bigoted posts most laughable is that you are a 3 week millionaire writing this on a Indochina forum.

Thanks for confirming that you're a fucking retard.

Not that is was needed, to be honest.

OHOH, the Chinese version of lord haw haw did forget to mention that the Chinese have threatened force if Taiwan declares independance from China. Xi has offered the carrot of "one country two systems" as in Hong kong if Taiwan vouluntarily accepts Chinese rule and of course we know how well that went for Hong Kong. BTW I dont think it went to well for Lord Haw Haw in the end.