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    Quote Originally Posted by TuskegeeBen View Post
    No, the Bushes were not
    I'm with LT on this. Ben have you noticed how our US "mainstream" media has been fawning over old man Bush since his death?

    That's a sign.




    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Reckon you folks who hate his family know them and have valid first hand knowledge.
    No I do not have that....but I've had plenty of widely varied inputs over the years that have convinced me the Bush family is/was bad news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    Ben have you noticed how our US "mainstream" media has been fawning over old man Bush since his death?
    Pretty much the same when any Pres dies. It is what media do. Not surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    That's a sign.
    A sign of what,...business,...as usual?

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    Lop off Sinclair's evil head when it pokes its head out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TuskegeeBen View Post
    business,...as usual?
    You said it...

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    LoyToy ~
    I would have gladly provided a more detailed point of view, on my part, but you sir,...have clearly demonstrated... yur...inability,...to actually hold an open forum, "academic" debate. Have a pleasant evening,..sir!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TuskegeeBen View Post
    I would have gladly provided a more detailed point of view, on my part
    But you decided not to do so!

    Why prey tell?

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    I could overwhelm...or underwhelm...you with links, not to mention book titles. But here's just a few links for starters...

    Bush Family Values: War, Wealth, Oil
    http://articles.latimes.com/2004/feb...n/op-phillips8

    same but different source:

    Bush Family Values...
    https://www.commondreams.org/views04/0208-05.htm

    Bush Family Oiligarchy
    https://consortiumnews.com/2015/06/1...ly-oiligarchy/

    The House of Bush vs. The House of Rockefeller
    The American Chronicle: The House of Bush versus the House of Rockefeller

    Bush and the Carlyle Group
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ptember11.usa4

    Financial Scams and the Bush Family
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/financi...-nafta/5599941
    Last edited by SKkin; 02-12-2018 at 07:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    No I do not have that....but I've had plenty of widely varied inputs over the years that have convinced me the Bush family is/was bad news.
    e.g.:
    How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
    Sat 25 Sep 2004

    Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president

    George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.

    The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

    His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.

    Read more
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...secondworldwar

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    I could overwhelm...or underwhelm...you with links, not to mention book titles. But here's just a few links for starters...

    Bush Family Values: War, Wealth, Oil Bush Family Values: War, Wealth, Oil - latimes same but different source:

    Bush Family Values...
    https://www.commondreams.org/views04/0208-05.htm

    Bush Family Oiligarchy
    https://consortiumnews.com/2015/06/1...ly-oiligarchy/

    The House of Bush vs. The House of Rockefeller
    The American Chronicle: The House of Bush versus the House of Rockefeller

    Bush and the Carlyle Group
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ptember11.usa4

    Financial Scams and the Bush Family
    https://asweetdoseofreality.com/2017...-cartel-nafta/
    Indeed,...conveying my thoughts,..to that place,..."Where Particular People Congregate",...thank you ^ sir,...for providing my research activity,...for the rest of the evening.
    Last edited by TuskegeeBen; 02-12-2018 at 07:14 PM. Reason: corrected typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    I'm with LT on this. Ben have you noticed how our US "mainstream" media has been fawning over old man Bush since his death?

    That's a sign.
    How would we do that? I seriously doubt one poster on here based in Thailand watches domestic US news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    How would we do that?
    By watching media reports and looking at history AO.

    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    I seriously doubt one poster on here based in Thailand watches domestic US news.
    i assume you have had the same armchair view of American politics as I have over the years as two posters living in Thailand hey matey?

    What's your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    How would we do that? I seriously doubt one poster on here based in Thailand watches domestic US news.
    There's an adage,...when a U.S. citizen truly desires to see the real U.S.A., then said citizen needs to live,...the Expat Life,...abroad.

    Re: watching U.S. domestic television news broadcast mediums (readily available in Thailand, as well),...I'll happily pass,...and/or take a rain-check,...instead.

    Kindly tune into CGTN.COM, for a quality-level comparative view,...just for one example. Note the profound comparative "differences",...in broadcast character/content/quality...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    e.g.:
    How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
    Sat 25 Sep 2004

    Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president

    George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.

    The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

    His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.

    Read more
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...secondworldwar
    A bit off-topic ^, but I'll definitely look at the link. Btw ~ It's time for the Auschwitz survivors,...(free-loading) off-spring generations,...to put a sock-in-it,..and move-on,...eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    By watching media reports and looking at history AO.
    LT...by any chance, do your thoughts on the Bush clan have any connection to the Nugan Hand and BCCI debacles? And the repercussions of those in Oz...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TuskegeeBen View Post
    A bit off-topic ^
    A bit off-topic? Just have a look what was in the quote I referred to: Bush family...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    A bit off-topic? Just have a look what was in the quote I referred to: Bush family...

    I read the OP as being focused upon the "deeds" of GHWB, together w/ those deeds of his immediate off-spring, of which he (GHW) was of a profound influence,...in recent current events.

    Reaching back in history, to the time, and deeds of Prescott Bush,...is a totally different (although related) topic of discussion. That's just my considered point of view. I meant no offense,...ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    He's probably one of America's greatest presidents. He's probably my favorite. I voted for his son.
    Blimey.

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    Here's an interesting short read about the authors up close and almost personal experience.
    Sorry about just the link.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...hw-bush-family

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    How would we do that? I seriously doubt one poster on here based in Thailand watches domestic US news.
    But I'll bet some of those posters are up to the minute on US sports though, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Even Obama had lots of nice things to say about him.
    That's because Obama is a gentleman and a diplomat.
    Come Trump's demise, though, I think Obama will struggle to say anything honest and nice. It will be more like, "He managed, admirably, to cast off his orange hue and look slightly more natural during his presidency..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Blimey.
    Blimey at the obvious sarcasm? Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    Blimey at the obvious sarcasm? Why?
    Your understanding of authorial intent is right up there with Chitty's appreciation of cuisine, so pardon me if I disagree with that assessment.

    Hopefully CSFFan can let us know.

    And let's face it, voting for GWB would be far from the most inexplicable decision CSF has made.

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    Saying GWB was the greatest American president is absurd to say the least especially since he was a one term president. JFK, FDR, Eisenhower, Teddy Roosevelt, all far better presidents of the same century. My personal fav was Eisenhower for his warnings against the military industrial complex and the fact that he soaked the rich taxing their income at 90%. He presided over an America where the middle class was at its strongest. Has been a steady decline since he left office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Saying GWB was the greatest American president is absurd to say the least
    Good job nobody did then, eh?

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