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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    "exacerbate verb [ T ]
    uk /ɪɡˈzęs.ə.beɪt/ us /ɪɡˈzęs.ɚ.beɪt/
    to make something that is already badevenworse:

    This attack will exacerbate the already tense relations between the two communities."

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...ish/exacerbate

    Possibly the use of an English dictionary site may help your understanding of a simple English sentence.I await the TD "resident English academic" to pronounce sentence or to dismiss the accusation and the award of appropriate damages .

    An apology or a sneer is in order.

    I think I'll just leave you doubling down on your error. I don't want to exacerbate the situation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Bad link or misdirection?
    OhOh is so desperate for this not to be true!




    Links between firms and the government have fuelled concerns that China may attempt to "leverage state-linked companies to be able to enable their espionage operations", Mr Uren said.


    Those concerns were exacerbated by new laws introduced last year that required Chinese organisations assist in national intelligence efforts.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46368001

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Bad link or misdirection?
    https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...se-phone-maker

    Works for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Oh, is it the law that those companies can be compelled to assist the U.S. spy agencies?
    Link please.
    I didn't mention any law so put the straw man away, but law or not, the point remains: Microsoft, Apple, Intel, Google etc all spy on their customers for the US government


    ...as you are the one making the assertion, can you provide the link to Chinese law that says their private companies must spy for the government?

    ps
    Your rage pm about Chairman Mao got me hard...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Works for me.
    Works for me now, thanks.

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    double post

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Links between firms and the government have fuelled concerns that China may attempt to "leverage state-linked companies to be able to enable their espionage operations", Mr Uren said.


    Those concerns were exacerbated by new laws introduced last year that required Chinese organisations assist in national intelligence efforts.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46368001
    Thanks for your belated link.

    Wherein your source is:

    "Tom Uren, visiting fellow in the International Cyber Policy Centre at Australia's Strategic Policy Institute,"

    Whose sponsors are:

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    The opinions and recommendations in material published by ASPI are intended to promote public debate and understanding of strategic and defence issues, and reflect the views of the author(s) and not those of the Australian Government or ASPI’s private sector sponsors"

    https://www.aspi.org.au/sponsors

    Not a whiff of bought and paid for "opinion" eh.

    One wonders why the sponsors pay them?

    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Your point is?
    How does this relate to a foreign government spying and stealing technology and installing god knows what on telecom infrastructure?
    You are becoming increasingly desperate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    I didn't mention any law so put the straw man away, but law or not, the point remains: Microsoft, Apple, Intel, Google etc all spy on their customers for the US government
    please provide a link to SOME sort of report backing this up. I doubt foreign governments use Google.


    ...as you are the one making the assertion, can you provide the link to Chinese law that says their private companies must spy for the government?


    ps
    There are two in this thread alone.
    Your rage pm about Chairman Mao got me hard...
    'Rage filled'? I titerally asked if you got you 50 cents (wu mao). For making that post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    please provide a link to SOME sort of report backing this up. I doubt foreign governments use Google.There are two in this thread alone.
    Thanks for confirming you know precisely nothing about this subject.

    Still waiting for your link to the Chinese law which states private companies must spy for the government? ...you know just to make sure you didn't pull that out your ass while overdosing on coffee in front of Fox News.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    Thanks for confirming you know precisely nothing about this subject.

    Still waiting for your link to the Chinese law which states private companies must spy for the government? ...you know just to make sure you didn't pull that out your ass while overdosing on coffee in front of Fox News.

    Desperate little fuckers these two.

    Here's a link to the law:

    ????????????_?????


    Here's Article 7:



    Article 7 Any organization or citizen shall support, assist and cooperate with state intelligence work in accordance with the law, and keep the secrets of national intelligence work known to the public.


    The State protects individuals and organizations that support, assist and cooperate with national intelligence work.

    I guess googling "chinese national intelligence law 2019" was a bit too fucking difficult for you was it? Mind you, Winnie the Pooh did rather rush it through.


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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    Thanks for confirming you know precisely nothing about this subject.

    Still waiting for your link to the Chinese law which states private companies must spy for the government? ...you know just to make sure you didn't pull that out your ass while overdosing on coffee in front of Fox News.
    Meanwhile give me a link to something to confirm your assertion that google and microsoft spy on behalf of the U.S. government.
    The information about the law comes from two reputable sources. The BBC and the Guardian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    There are certainly similarities, but there are differences too.
    The differences are irrelevant if the effect to the end user is the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    Thanks for confirming you know precisely nothing about this subject.
    I never claimed to know anything about it, which is why I ask you to enlighten me.

    Still waiting for your link to the Chinese law which states private companies must spy for the government? ...
    Try this.
    https://www.lawfareblog.com/beijings...efense-offense


    Or take your pick.

    https://www.google.de/search?newwind...99.xyDxPpAzPJM
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    "In my professional assessment as an intelligence officer, Trump has a reflexive, defensive, monumentally narcissistic personality, for whom the facts and national interest are irrelevant, and the only thing that counts is whatever gives personal advantage and directs attention to himself."

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Here's Article 7:



    Article 7 Any organization or citizen shall support, assist and cooperate with state intelligence work in accordance with the law, and keep the secrets of national intelligence work known to the public.


    The State protects individuals and organizations that support, assist and cooperate with national intelligence work.
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Desperate little fuckers these two.
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post

    Here's a link to the law:

    ????????????_?????
    At last a source from a recognised government agency albeit in Chinese but as they say, from the horsesmouth, thank you.

    Using my translation app here is the Chinese to English translation:

    "National Intelligence Law of the People's Republic

    (Adopted at the 28th meeting of the Standing Committee of the 12th National People's Congress on June 27, 2017)

    Article 7 Any organization or citizen shall support, assist and cooperate with state intelligence work in accordance with the law, and keep the secrets of national intelligence work known to the public.

    The State protects individuals and organizations that support, assist and cooperate with national intelligence work."

    Point one, it is a later version - 27/06/17 ('arry 1 - OhOh 0)

    Point two it includes 'arrys second sentence. ('arry 2 - OhOh 0)

    A resounding defeat for over hasty OhOh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Any organization or citizen shall support, assist and cooperate with state intelligence work in accordance with the law, and keep the secrets of national intelligence work known to the public.


    The State protects individuals and organizations that support, assist and cooperate with national intelligence work.
    Right ...so the Chinese government policy is identical to every other government in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    The State protects individuals and organizations that support, assist and cooperate with national intelligence work."
    "And will do their best to get them out of a Canadian extradition".



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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    Right ...so the Chinese government policy is identical to every other government in the world.
    I would question your inability to be able to tell the difference between "law" and "policy", but I suppose someone who doesn't even know how to spell FUBAR is probably a tad limited in the first place.


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    Beware the Yellow Peril.
    Always vigilant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I would question your inability to be able to tell the difference between "law" and "policy", but I suppose someone who doesn't even know how to spell FUBAR is probably a tad limited in the first place.
    Who says I'm trying to spell an abbreviation? ...and you're supposed to work in IT ROFL!!!! Be careful of being influenced by the posts of retards in the Brexit thread Harry.

    Wait ...are you really saying it's not against the law for American companies to withhold or not report private customer information which is pertinent to matters of national security?

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    Who says I'm trying to spell an abbreviation? ...and you're supposed to work in IT ROFL!!!! Be careful of being influenced by the posts of retards in the Brexit thread Harry.

    Wait ...are you really saying it's not against the law for American companies to withhold or not report private customer information which is pertinent to matters of national security?

    As has already been requested of you several times, please feel free to post the equivalent US law that says "Any organization or citizen shall support, assist and cooperate with state intelligence work" or words to that effect.

    While you're at it you can look up what FUBAR means.




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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    As has already been requested of you several times, please feel free to post the equivalent US law that says "Any organization or citizen shall support, assist and cooperate with state intelligence work" or words to that effect.

    Wait ...are you really saying it's not against the law for American companies to withhold or not report private customer information which is pertinent to matters of national security?

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    Is this the real reason:

    Five Eyes Against Huawei

    Washington has asked Ottawa to arrest Meng Wanzhou and to extradite her. This young woman is the financial director and daughter of the founder of Huawei, the Chinese Telecom Giant. She was arrested on 6 December in Canada.

    The motive for the war undertaken by Washington against Huawei is deep-rooted and spurious are the justifications.


    The heart of the problem is that the Chinese firm uses a system of encryption that prevents the NSA from intercepting its communications. A number of governments and secret services in the non-Western world have begun to equip themselves exclusively with Huawei materials, and are doing so to protect the confidentiality of their communications.


    The covers/excuses for this war are theft of intellectual property or in the alternative, trade with Iran and North Korea, and violating rules of competition by benefitting from national subsidies.


    The Five Eyes is a system of electronic espionage by Australia, Canada, the United States, New Zealand and the United Kingdom. They have begun to exclude Huawei from their auctions.

    Five Eyes Against Huawei

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    "And will do their best to get them out of a Canadian extradition".
    If legally able to,why not?

    As has been proven many countries governments try and protect their citizens, allegedly.

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