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    'Time has come' for US Space Force, sixth military branch: Pence

    Vice President Mike Pence on Thursday unveiled details of plans to build a US Space Force that would become the sixth branch of America's massive military, saying the time has come to prepare for "the next battlefield."



    President Donald Trump ordered the creation of Space Force in June, arguing the Pentagon needs it to tackle vulnerabilities in space and assert US dominance in orbit.
    Its creation however is not a done deal, as it needs to be approved by Congress, and the concept has met with some skepticism from lawmakers and defense officials wary of the cost and added bureaucracy.
    But Pence was unequivocal in presenting the administration's wish for it to become a reality -- preferably by 2020, the end of Trump's term in office.


    "The time has come to write the next great chapter in the history of our armed forces, to prepare for the next battlefield where America's best and bravest will be called to deter and defeat a new generation of threats to our people, to our nation," Pence told an audience at the Pentagon.
    "The time has come to establish the United States Space Force," he said, repeating Trump's call for Congress to invest an additional $8 billion in US space security systems over the next five years.
    Shortly after Pence's speech, Trump tweeted: "Space Force all the way!"


    Countering Russia and China



    The creation of a US Space Force reflects the drastically changed reality of space's role in national security.
    When president John F. Kennedy explained in 1962 why America was sending men to the Moon, he famously said, "There is no strife, no prejudice, no national conflict in outer space as yet."


    But 56 years later, space plays a vital role in just about every aspect of modern warfare, with many military technologies reliant on a network of orbiting sensors and satellites.
    Pence said an independent Space Force was essential to counter Russia and China, which are "aggressively" working toward anti-satellite capabilities.
    "China and Russia have been conducting highly sophisticated on-orbit activities that could enable them to maneuver their satellites into close proximity of ours, posing unprecedented new dangers to our space

    systems," he said.


    Currently, the Air Force oversees most space capabilities and there is some push back from officials who worry the Space Force's mission would be duplicative and create turf wars.
    The US military presently consists of the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps and Coast Guard.


    Given the stakes surrounding building a new military branch, the issue is likely to be a political football.

    Some Republican lawmakers expressed support for the project, but many Democrats derided the idea as a money pit that would jeopardize other priorities.
    "Maybe, just maybe, we should make sure our people are not dying because they lack health insurance before we start spending billions to militarize outer space," Senator Bernie Sanders tweeted.
    Democratic Senator Brian Schatz said Space Force "won't happen."
    No Republican is willing to tell Trump it's a "dumb idea," added the lawmaker from Hawaii. "It's dangerous to have a leader who cannot be talked out of crazy ideas."


    US Space Command



    Pence outlined a series of steps the Pentagon will undertake before Space Force comes online.

    Key among these is the creation of US Space Command, a new organizational body that would draw in members of existing military branches.


    America's vast military divides the globe into various commands, such as Central Command in the Middle East or Indo-Pacific Command in Asia, and a new Space Command would be on equal footing with these.
    It would require a new headquarters and major organizational changes.


    The Pentagon sent a report to Congress Tuesday detailing steps towards meeting Trump's order.
    The document outlines how America's military is at risk in space due to adversaries pursuing "counter-space" capabilities to neutralize America's satellites during a conflict, such as by jamming or hacking them.


    "It is imperative that the United States adapts its policies, doctrine, and capabilities to protect our interests," the document states.


    Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said this week that Pence is Trump's "point man" for Space Force, and Pentagon officials are working closely with his office.
    But just last year, Mattis voiced skepticism concerning the need to create a separate Space Force.


    In a letter to a congressman, he said he did "not wish to add a separate service that would likely present a narrower and even parochial approach to space operations," adding it would create extra bureaucracy and cost.

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    I tell you something for nothing Mr VP there will be no "next battlefield" unless you create it and right now your 'wonderful' country is working towards doing just that.
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    I reckon China is on the way to doing it, so the US simply has to get bigger...they have no option.

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    Great. Now we have an arms race in space as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    I reckon China is on the way to doing it, so the US simply has to get bigger...they have no option.
    Yep.



    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Now we have an arms race in space as well.
    That's been going on for decades.

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    Oh, we have lots of exciting stuff to look forward to ! Remember when China blew up their own satellite and created an enormous amount of space debris, just to show everyone that they can ?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/19/w...a/19china.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    I reckon China is on the way to doing it, so the US simply has to get bigger...they have no option.
    Kinda like that time the US was doing it so the USSR had to also....

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    This will be bigly huge and led no doubt by someone of the caliber of Captain Kirk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    That's been going on for decades.
    Yes, but not....

    <dramatic music> Duh Duh Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

    Space Soldiers.

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    There is the be all of US policy "Dominance" everywhere.

    assert US dominance in orbit.

    Russia and China, which are "aggressively" working toward anti-satellite capabilities.
    "China and Russia have been conducting highly sophisticated on-orbit activities that could enable them to maneuver their satellites into close proximity of ours, posing unprecedented new dangers to our space
    There we have it Russia and China are working on ways to counter US aggression and that must be stopped.

    Our space
    Yes it belongs to US and that must be maintained at all cost.

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    Wait till the EU Strike Force enters the equation, and they won't be squandering hundreds of billions on 'lucrative' deals just to have the end product sit around scratching their bums.

    And they better get a move on, not long before this Great Socialist European Peace and Solidarity Project collides with the wall.

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    well I guess when you are losing every war on the ground even with a bunch of third world fuckwits, you take your toys and go play elsewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    well I guess when you are losing every war on the ground even with a bunch of third world fuckwits
    What are you talking about you Belgian rifle dropper?

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    what is it that you do not understand again this time, dimwit

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    ^ It is not I that does not understand you little cock guzzling runt.

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    From almost 2 months ago.

    Maybe the POTUS's initial launch failed ...

    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post









    US President Donald Trump says he is ordering the establishment of a sixth branch of the military to clear the way for
    American dominance in space.


    Key points:
    • Mr Trump said he wants a 'Space Force' to stop China and Russia' from leading the US
    • But, the international Outer Space Treaty bars the stationing of weapons of mass destruction in space
    • Mr Trump also signed a directive on the management of traffic and debris in space


    "It is not enough to merely have an American presence in space. We must have American dominance in space," Mr Trump said
    before a meeting of his National Space Council.

    "We are going to have the Air Force and we're going to have the 'Space Force.' Separate but equal," he said later.
    "It is going to be something. So important."

    The United States, however, is a member of the Outer Space Treaty, which bars the stationing of weapons of mass destruction
    in space and only allows for the use of the moon and other celestial bodies for peaceful purposes.
    EDIT:-


    The six logo options proposed for the Space Force.

    Donald Trump's administration faces all sorts of political and logistical difficulties if it is to realise the creation of a
    Space Force by 2020, but the US President's re-election team is already thinking about the merchandise

    Key points:


    • Donald Trump's 2020 re-election team says campaign will be selling new line of Space Force gear
    • Email from campaign team included six logos for Space Force, asking supporters to vote on their favourites
    • President Trump wants to form a sixth branch of the US military, critics view it as expensive and unnecessary
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    Quote Originally Posted by Begbie View Post
    This will be bigly huge and led no doubt by someone of the caliber of Captain Kirk.
    Probably more likely Cmdr. Benson

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    The perpetual maintenance for invented enemies.
    How civilised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Yes, but not....

    <dramatic music> Duh Duh Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

    Space Soldiers.
    True.
    It does make sense, though...although budget wise, I reckon it should only go to planning for several more years to come. Get it right the first time.

    The final frontier (aside from the depths of our oceans which we still haven't quite got a hold of).

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    Good old "Bomber Bolton" has been quite as of late? who is he planning on annihilating next, or is he content to continue to focus on Iran for now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    well I guess when you are losing every war on the ground even with a bunch of third world fuckwits, you take your toys and go play elsewhere
    Don't worry they can always find someone that needs a blooded nose for the good of all.

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    Personally, I think it's a smart move....look at it from Trump's viewpoint.

    America already has an airforce why not have a non-airforce to fight the threats that the airforce is obviously unable to fight due to their need of air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
    Probably more likely Cmdr. Benson
    The establishment has turned against Benson, he's dead meat; maybe the Rear Guard, adapted from Dad's Army.

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    The dumbing down continues easily.

    Comfortably numb.

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    The United States, however, is a member of the Outer Space Treaty, which bars the stationing of weapons of mass destruction
    in space and only allows for the use of the moon and other celestial bodies for peaceful purposes.
    Whats that got to do with anything the US scraps or ignores treaties as they please, recent case Iran.

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