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    Mexican Elections

    Anti-Trump populist poised to clinch Mexican presidency

    MEXICO CITY — Mexicans on Sunday appear likely to elect a left-wing populist president who has campaigned on standing up to President Donald Trump, potentially ushering in a more confrontational era of U.S.-Mexico relations on everything from immigration policy to trade.

    Andrés Manuel López Obrador, a former mayor of Mexico City who styles himself as a champion for rural Mexico, has enjoyed a double-digit lead over the other top candidates from the country’s major parties for months.

    His vows to eradicate violence and official corruption — long unaddressed by outgoing Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto’s ruling PRI party — have played a major role in lifting him to the head of the pack. But his pledge to defend Mexicans from Trump, coupled with his nationalistic rhetoric, has also bolstered his standing with Mexican voters.

    López Obrador traveled through the U.S. after Trump was elected to advocate for Mexican immigrants living in the states and even published a book called "Oye, Trump" ("Listen Up, Trump") that condemns Trump’s plans to build a border wall and “his attempts to persecute migrant workers.”
    Mexico “will never be the piñata of any foreign government,” López Obrador, 64, told more than 90,000 supporters at a rally here to close out his campaign on Wednesday.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...obrador-664243

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    Anti-Trump populist poised to clinch Mexican presidency

    MEXICO CITY — Mexicans on Sunday appear likely to elect a left-wing populist president who has campaigned on standing up to President Donald Trump, potentially ushering in a more confrontational era of U.S.-Mexico relations on everything from immigration policy to trade.


    Andrés Manuel López Obrador, a former mayor of Mexico City who styles himself as a champion for rural Mexico, has enjoyed a double-digit lead over the other top candidates from the country’s major parties for months.

    His vows to eradicate violence and official corruption — long unaddressed by outgoing Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto’s ruling PRI party — have played a major role in lifting him to the head of the pack. But his pledge to defend Mexicans from Trump, coupled with his nationalistic rhetoric, has also bolstered his standing with Mexican voters.

    López Obrador traveled through the U.S. after Trump was elected to advocate for Mexican immigrants living in the states and even published a book called "Oye, Trump" ("Listen Up, Trump") that condemns Trump’s plans to build a border wall and “his attempts to persecute migrant workers.”
    Mexico “will never be the piñata of any foreign government,” López Obrador, 64, told more than 90,000 supporters at a rally here to close out his campaign on Wednesday.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...obrador-664243
    I can't help but think if he is able to get rid of violence and corruption that the Mexicans will stay in Mexico instead of trying to illegally sneak into the USA. This I think would make him a good buddy of Trump. I don't see him creating many new markets for perishable vegetables that pour into the USA. I don't think he wants to alienate the farmers who are his base. I see nothing but roses in the American Mexico future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y View Post
    I can't help but think if he is able to get rid of violence and corruption that the Mexicans will stay in Mexico instead of trying to illegally sneak into the USA.
    The Mexicans have already stopped crossing the border. Migration on the southern border has been in decline since 2008 a fact that you right wingers like to ignore. The majority of the current migrants are coming from central America and very few from Mexico.
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    Border. Sorry.

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    ABC's reporting, it's been the most violent election season in years. If he goes after corruption could be a short tenure

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    Even before Trump, more Mexicans were leaving the U.S. than arriving

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.d6454c59033e

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Even before Trump, more Mexicans were leaving the U.S. than arriving

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.d6454c59033e
    That's a good point. I think the immigration problem is about criminals coming to the USA not workers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y View Post
    That's a good point. I think the immigration problem is about criminals coming to the USA not workers.

    For sure the US does not need imported criminals, they have enough of their own as testified by the prison population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y View Post
    That's a good point. I think the immigration problem is about criminals coming to the USA not workers.
    It's about deflecting the US' problems on to foreigners instead of the true source.....oldest trick in the book

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    It's about deflecting the US' problems on to foreigners instead of the true source.....oldest trick in the book


    What is the true source? Probably the Irish mob. Eh? Or did you mean Trumps economy economic problems?'=

    The American economy roared into overdrive last month, the Labor Department reported Friday, extending the longest streak of job growth on record and echoing other recent signs of strength.
    The unemployment rate fell to 3.8 percent, its lowest level since the heady days of the dot-com boom in early 2000.
    The net increase of 223,000 jobs reflected healthy gains in a broad range of industries, from manufacturing and transportation to health care and retailing. Black unemployment just hit a record low. Must be no one is hiring because of fears of a trade war.
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    ...tattoo of tRump's Melania noted above right tit on the guy on the left...interesting that she's into brown doughboys...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y View Post
    What is the true source? Probably the Irish mob.
    they've already been scapegoated in the 1800's.

    you wanna troll me...prove how violent the illegals are compared to native born americans

    fox must have loads of stats on the issue....or the NY Post will have something

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    they've already been scapegoated in the 1800's.

    you wanna troll me...prove how violent the illegals are compared to native born americans

    fox must have loads of stats on the issue....or the NY Post will have something
    Aye mate ow about the BBC?
    Almost seven in every 10 foreign prisoners in US jails are Mexicans, a US government report has revealed.
    A report by the US Government Accountability Office also states that between 2005 and 2010, there was a 7% increase in the number of foreign inmates in federal prisons.
    Local prisons, have seen a 35% increase in the number of jailed foreigners.
    The GAO reports that 68% of the 55,000 foreigners in US prisons are Mexican nationals.

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    ^why are they locked up and what's the reason for the increase...(hint: the answer's in the article you mentioned)....not seeing anything pointing to illegals being more violent than the native born Americans
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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    ^why are they locked up and what's the reason for the increase...(hint: the answer's in the article you mentioned)....not seeing anything pointing to illegals being more violent than the native born Americans
    The prison population grew by 700 percent from 1970 to 2005, a rate that is outpacing crime and population rates. The incarceration rates disproportionately impact men of color: 1 in every 15 African American men and 1 in every 36 Hispanic men are incarcerated in comparison to 1 in every 106 white men.
    Mexico has 98% more murders than the USA. Murder rate 5 times more than USA. I guess you have never been to Mexico.

    There were 25,339 homicides in Mexico last year, a 23% jump from 2016 and the highest number since at least 1997.

    Now do you realize Mexicans are quite a bit more violent than Americans?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y View Post
    Now do you realize Mexicans are quite a bit more violent than Americans?
    What are you on about

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    What are you on about
    You wrote "not seeing anything pointing to illegals being more violent than the native born Americans"
    I attempted to educate you about North and South America. "Mexico has 98% more murders than the USA. Murder rate 5 times more than USA. I guess you have never been to Mexico."

    I used to live close to there and always carried a gun because of the illegals running around my property at night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y View Post
    I used to live close to there and always carried a gun because of the illegals running around my property at night.
    Of course you did

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    There's no way mark's not ex-special forces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    There's no way mark's not ex-special forces.
    Reminds me of Rick "danger" Thai. Curiously I searched and it looks like that rickthai account has been scrubbed from TD. Odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    Of course you did
    I ran a business and my brother in law had a ranch. I had to make deposits in the bank. I wore a bullet proof vest and carried a shotgun. My brother in law carried a Colt in a holster as he was a cowboy type. I was in South East Asia for two tours in the late 1960's. I carried a gun there too. Not a Rambo type as I didn't much get along with Special forces types because they kept stealing my jeep and I liked subdued insignia and I wore underwear. Maybe a trip to a border town in Mexico would be in order for you so you could update your knowledge of things Mexican. Women are hot tempered and eat spicy food - a bit like Thai women but larger breasts. They seem to put on a lot of weight after childbirth. Did I tell you I'm a disabled vet and my health care is paid for in Thailand? That's the reason I could retire here. Thai hospitals direct bill the VA. Nice system. Saves America money and I think the health care is much better than the VA system in the States or Mexico for those who live in border areas or have retired in Mexico.

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    So uncle junior must be the only person that this bozo does not have on ignore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y View Post
    I wore a bullet proof vest and carried a shotgun.
    Yep Rick "danger" Thai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y View Post
    I ran a business and my brother in law had a ranch. I had to make deposits in the bank. I wore a bullet proof vest and carried a shotgun. My brother in law carried a Colt in a holster as he was a cowboy type. I was in South East Asia for two tours in the late 1960's. I carried a gun there too. Not a Rambo type as I didn't much get along with Special forces types because they kept stealing my jeep and I liked subdued insignia and I wore underwear. Maybe a trip to a border town in Mexico would be in order for you so you could update your knowledge of things Mexican. Women are hot tempered and eat spicy food - a bit like Thai women but larger breasts. They seem to put on a lot of weight after childbirth. Did I tell you I'm a disabled vet and my health care is paid for in Thailand? That's the reason I could retire here. Thai hospitals direct bill the VA. Nice system. Saves America money and I think the health care is much better than the VA system in the States or Mexico for those who live in border areas or have retired in Mexico.

    Big deal , once i killed a gopher with a stick

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    ...stepped on a roach in the shower...the screams still echo...
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