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    Harvey Weinstein Charged With Rape and Other Sex Crimes, Barred From Travel

    Looper must be gutted.....

    Disgraced mogul Harvey Weinstein was formally arrested and charged Friday with rape and other acts of sexual misconduct, the latest development in the stunning downfall of a powerful producer whose taste and bullying persona once defined independent film.

    Weinstein’s bond was set by a Manhattan court at $10 million. He paid $1 million in a cashier’s check to post bail, and agreed not to travel outside of New York State and Connecticut without advance permission from the court. He also agreed to wear a GPS-enabled monitoring device.


    Wearing a dark jacket and clutching a small stack of books, Weinstein, 66, turned himself in to police in downtown New York shortly before 7:30 a.m., at a precinct besieged by reporters and news cameras. An hour later, just before 9 a.m., he left the police station in handcuffs.


    Shortly afterward, he appeared in a Manhattan courthouse in the company of his lawyer, Benjamin Brafman, and surrendered his passport. Weinstein remained mostly silent throughout the proceedings, standing quietly as prosecutor Joan Illuzzi-Orbon described him as using his “position, money and power to lure young women into situations where he was able to violate them sexually.” Weinstein was arraigned on charges of first degree rape, forcible oral sex, and third degree rape. Brafman entered a not guilty plea.

    The charges involve two alleged victims. The first is Lucia Evans, who came forward last fall with allegations that Weinstein forced her to perform oral sex at his Tribeca office in 2004. The rape charge concerns a woman who has not been identified, who alleges that Weinstein held her against her will at a Manhattan hotel room in 2013. According to the complaint, Weinstein forced the woman to have sex though she “had clearly expressed her lack of consent to the act.” The judge issued a protective order Friday, barring either side from releasing the woman’s name.


    Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance has been under pressure to prosecute Weinstein, after declining to file a misdemeanor case involving an alleged groping of an Italian model three years ago. In a statement Friday, Vance said the case is active and ongoing, and urged other victims to come forward. The New York Police Department issued its own statement, offering thanks to “these brave survivors for their courage to come forward and seek justice.”


    The two most serious charges — first degree rape and forcible oral sex — are Class B felonies in New York. Weinstein faces up to 25 years in prison if convicted.


    “We intend to move very quickly to dismiss these charges,” Brafman said in a brief news conference outside the courthouse. He added that Weinstein has maintained that all sexual activity he engaged in “was consensual.”

    Brafman later issued a statement alleging that the charges are “legally flawed and not supported by credible evidence.”
    “Mr. Weinstein has always maintained that he has never engaged in non-consensual sexual behavior with anyone,” Brafman said. “Nothing about today’s proceedings changes Mr. Weinstein’s position. He has entered a plea of Not Guilty and fully expects to be exonerated.”

    News crews had arrived at dawn Friday at the New York Police Department’s first precinct in Tribeca to capture the arrival of a man once accustomed to the flash of cameras and clamor of reporters on the red carpet. Officers set up barricades to try to contain the thicket of news media.


    Weinstein’s arrest comes after more than 80 women accused him of sexual misconduct last fall, sparking an anti-harassment movement that spread around the world and exposed cultures of complicity in entertainment, media, sports and politics. Yet even as the stories piled up, the allegations against Weinstein stood apart, painting a portrait of a man for whom sexual assault had become a routine, enabled by his handlers and his unquestioned power in Hollywood.

    In the New Yorker, Evans said Weinstein had forced her to perform oral sex during an audition in New York. “I said, over and over, ‘I don’t want to do this, stop, don’t,'” she said. But she said Weinstein simply ignored her and later acted as if nothing had happened. Paz de la Huerta said Weinstein raped her twice in her apartment. “I was so terrified of him,” she told Vanity Fair. “I did say no, and when he was on top of me I said, ‘I don’t want to do this.’ He kept humping me and it was disgusting. He’s like a pig.”


    Weinstein’s alleged misconduct was one of the biggest open secrets in Hollywood. Yet he eluded public accountability for decades, protecting himself through secret payoffs and non-disclosure agreements. He allegedly threatened the careers of women who turned him down, and wielded such influence that the threats were taken seriously. The one woman who did report him to the police, Italian model Ambra Battilana, was smeared in the tabloids before prosecutors decided they did not have enough evidence to file a charge.


    Ronan Farrow began to investigate the story last year, and soon Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey of the New York Times joined in the pursuit. The Times’ investigation, published on Oct. 5, 2017, alleged that Weinstein had paid at least eight accusers for their silence. Farrow’s story appeared in the New Yorker five days later, including vivid and harrowing accounts from 13 women, including actresses Asia Argento, Mira Sorvino and Emma de Caunes. Soon, actresses such as Gwyneth Paltrow and Angelina Jolie gave their own accounts of unwanted advances.


    Weinstein fled to Arizona, where he hunkered down and promised to get treatment. As new allegations emerged in a string of lawsuits and news reports, he issued blanket denials that he had ever engaged in non-consensual sex. He also came to see himself as a scapegoat, unfairly singled out for the sins of powerful men everywhere.


    Police agencies in Los Angeles, New York and London opened criminal investigations, while his company was forced into bankruptcy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Looper must be gutted....
    surely our loopy wasn't a victim, I always thought he was a jolly nice okerr rocker, not some casting couch ragdoll?


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    Wonder if these two smoked Harvey's pole?


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    All in the same Swingers club?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Looper must be gutted.....
    Harry, I think you need some guy ropes and tent pegs for your straw man as he may blow away in a strong wind.

    Being opposed to political correctness when it says that 50% of Australian firefighters should be women does not translate to supporting the reptilian Harvey Weinstein, who no doubt deserves everything he will get and then some.

    You still did not answer the question about whether you support the idea that 50% of firefighters should be female?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    Harry, I think you need some guy ropes and tent pegs for your straw man as he may blow away in a strong wind.

    Being opposed to political correctness when it says that 50% of Australian firefighters should be women does not translate to supporting the reptilian Harvey Weinstein, who no doubt deserves everything he will get and then some.

    You still did not answer the question about whether you support the idea that 50% of firefighters should be female?
    I would *expect* 50% of firefighters to be female if insecure white men like yourself stopped putting stupid rules in the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I would *expect* 50% of firefighters to be female if insecure white men like yourself stopped putting stupid rules in the way.
    Stupid rules like 'you must be able to drag an 80Kg dead weight 20 metres' ? Don't worry harry, that rule has been dropped as it is 'sexist'.

    Why would you expect that a job that requires physical attributes that are by far predominantly male should have 50% female representation?

    This is putting politcal correctness before safety and common sense.

    If men are on average larger and stronger than women then we should expect that the majority of firefighters should be men if the jobs are awarded on actual capability and not on politcally driven 'equity of outcome' politics.

    Men and women are different on average in physical and psychological traits so expecting 50/50 distributions of gender is letting politics get in the way of reality.

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    Wonder what Harvey's defense will be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Wonder what Harvey's defense will be?
    He was just doing his job? Hollywood career advisor(casting couch).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Wonder what Harvey's defense will be?
    Surely that's obvious?

    He'll say either the acts were consensual or that they never happened?

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    ^^ I was close...

    Defiant Harvey Weinstein denies sex crime charges. He 'did not invent the casting couch,' attorney says


    "Mr. Weinstein did not invent the casting couch in Hollywood," Brafman said. "And to the extent that there is bad behavior in that industry, that is not what this is about. Bad behavior is not on trial in this case. It's only if you intentionally committed a criminal act, and Mr. Weinstein vigorously denies that."

    Brafman later said that Weinstein would enter a plea of not guilty and that he planned to file a motion to dismiss the case on behalf of his client.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Wonder what Harvey's defense will be?
    part of a movie producers job description is to fcuk women in his office who want to become movie stars

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    From same link ^^

    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    He'll say either the acts were consensual or that they never happened?
    Speaking to reporters after the court appearance, Weinstein's attorney, Benjamin Brafman, said the former producer continues to "vehemently deny" any criminal acts. Weinstein, he said, maintains that any sexual acts with the women were consensual and that the charges are "constitutionally flawed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    Stupid rules like 'you must be able to drag an 80Kg dead weight 20 metres' ? Don't worry harry, that rule has been dropped as it is 'sexist'.

    Why would you expect that a job that requires physical attributes that are by far predominantly male should have 50% female representation?

    This is putting politcal correctness before safety and common sense.

    If men are on average larger and stronger than women then we should expect that the majority of firefighters should be men if the jobs are awarded on actual capability and not on politcally driven 'equity of outcome' politics.

    Men and women are different on average in physical and psychological traits so expecting 50/50 distributions of gender is letting politics get in the way of reality.
    I think you know what your problem is. You are a weed and you've been beaten up at school by the big girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Wonder what Harvey's defense will be?

    He will tell the court that he really wanted to be a Fireman.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    He will tell the court that he really wanted to be a Fireman.....


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    he is going to walk out, like DSK did

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    "vehemently deny" any criminal acts
    I think that will work. Bad behavior but not a criminal act. Doubt a jury will find him guilty of any criminal act so no jail time for Harvey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    I think that will work. Bad behavior but not a criminal act. Doubt a jury will find him guilty of any criminal act so no jail time for Harvey.
    You don't think he'll get found guilty of rape or sexual misconduct (various)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Bad behavior but not a criminal act. Doubt a jury will find him guilty of any criminal act so no jail time for Harvey.
    It is hard to know for sure if crime a took place.

    Using your power in an industry like showbiz to pressure women for sex is certainly morally reprehensible but it is not really technically a crime.

    If the stories of him physically forcing himself on women, believing that they will not resist strongly and will not say anything anyway since they still have half an eye on their budding film career, are true (and I suspect that they are), then he is certainly guilty of a crime by modern interpretations of rape as the standards of consent have evolved somewhat.

    I think they are probably true stories and I think the public has a strong enough desire for this type of casting couch manipulation of females to end that he will likely be seeing the inside of a jail cell.

    The problem with these types of crimes that happen in private, and are not reported until much later, is proof; but if there is enough circumstantial evidence and agreement between different witnesses of a pattern of behaviour then I think it would be enough to send him down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    It is hard to know for sure if crime a took place.
    No it fucking isn't.

    There are 85 (at least in December) women saying he either committed rape or sexual misconduct, or he tried to.

    Their stories illustrate a pattern of criminal behaviour.

    That boy is going to learn all about rape in a Rikers Island shower.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    That boy is going to learn all about rape in a Rikers Island shower.
    If he does do any time, it will probably be in a "country club" style lockup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    There are 85 (at least in December) women saying he either committed rape or sexual misconduct, or he tried to.
    We will find out but were any of his accusers physically forced to have sex with him? If not the prosecution will have a problem convincing a jury the women were "raped".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    We will find out but were any of his accusers physically forced to have sex with him? If not the prosecution will have a problem convincing a jury the women were "raped".
    It's the US. No means No.

    He's in deep shit make no mistake.

    If I were him, I'd be doing an OJ and signing my assets over to trusted family members (if he's actually got any).

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It's the US. No means No.
    Sometimes it means Hoo Nouws, Sees what happens...
    And suddenly, YES!!!

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