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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    Trump's been blowing his own so much over this; he's lost whatever leverage he had.
    IMO the largest piece actionable leverage trump had was the summit itself, because the military option really isn't actually an option.

    n. korea and kim jong un desperately wanted to be on the same stage with the US....and trump just gave it away for nothing.

    he's great at deals....just ask him.

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    Can you imagine these two, sat in their chairs, eyeing up the door, seeing who can flounce first and blame it on the other?

    Hard one to call, Chubby or the 71-year-old.

    I suppose the seating plan will be a dead giveaway.

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    fucking awesome, best POTUS ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    and now they're just going to give it up and denuclearize?
    never.....and the only deal trump can offer is concessions in exchange for getting rid of the nukes......in other words, bail on Iran and give the same deal to NK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    ..... For now.

    Did you see the size of the letter?

    I sense memes coming.....



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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    One more:
    He does what his lady tells him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    ..... For now.

    Did you see the size of the letter?

    I sense memes coming.....



    North Korea ready to walk away from Trump summit.-skynews-kim-jong-un-trump_4326161-jpg
    Obama never got a letter that big.

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    Fatboy will turn up, he's not about to squander a free stay at some $6k/night hotel. US could pick up the expected hundreds of $k tab but that leads to more complex issues than it's worth, so Singapore offers to cover it, the US reimburse them on some pretext and everybody's happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    and now they're just going to give it up and denuclearize?
    What will USA give up?

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    How wonderful is the rhetoric of the politicians:

    One week a letter came with
    threatening statement from the Pyongyang regime
    and with
    tremendous anger and open hostility
    - (BTW how big was the letter?)

    answering that with
    mixed regretful and conciliatory passages with a reminder of the size of the US nuclear arsenal.
    (my letter is bigger)

    (quotes from https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...nuclear-summit )

    another week:
    nice letter
    (and pretty big...)

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    dumb and dumber with their fingers on a nuclear device,

    what could possibly go wrong ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    What will USA give up?
    even if the US removed it's entire military presence from s. korea and japan (which is never going to happen), i don't think kim jong un would denuclearize.

    again....this family has been trying to build nuclear weapons tech for decades....and they finally achieved it.....why does anyone think they would ever turn it over?

    and that's not even touching on what happened to gaddafi in libya or how trump just walked away from the iran deal.

    it's not going to happen.

    trump got played.

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    the best the white house can hope for at this point is a signing ceremony for the official end to the conflict between north and south korea.

    which doesn't really mean jack shit....and to get there, kim is going to demand oil and food....which he'll get.

    we've all seen this movie before....at least 3 times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    kim is going to demand oil and food....which he'll get.
    And what's the reason he should not get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    And what's the reason he should not get?
    Biggest reason is cuz in the past it's not been distributed as agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    in the past it's not been distributed as agreed

    Do you have any link to that occurring, please.

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    ^google has plenty.....feel free to prove me wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    And what's the reason he should not get?
    what's the reason he should?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    ..... For now.

    Did you see the size of the letter?

    I sense memes coming.....



    North Korea ready to walk away from Trump summit.-skynews-kim-jong-un-trump_4326161-jpg

    ok, so they're just trolling trump and his small hands, right?

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    Here is a link to two articles from 2005:

    Tony Banbury, WFP Regional Director for Asia:
    Archive for the ‘UN World Food Program’ Category

    Two reports, The second one covering the lack of food in DPRK at the time and his opinions on the problems. The first one knowledge transfer of Water Transport, Irrigation and Storage techniques.

    Two very full report and his viewpoint on causes and results by many parties.

    North Korean Economy Watch » UN World Food Program
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    what's the reason he should?
    Everyone Is Equal, but Some Are More Equal Than Others

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    not about equality is it

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    not about equality is it
    Yes, it is. Why one state says to another what they are allowed to get?

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    Not about equality. It's about playing by accepted rules. NK leaders don't get along well with the other kids in the block and want to do things their own way

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